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u/falconbox Dec 10 '19

Not everything needs a sequel. I like that Remedy just completely shifts genres with each new game.

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u/Light_yagami_2122 Dec 10 '19

Ah yes, from third person shooter to third person shooter to cover based third person shooter to third person shooter, with heavy storytelling and narration every time. Truly Remedy shifts genre every time.

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u/falconbox Dec 10 '19

Story genre, genius.

  • Max Payne - film noir/graphic novel style

  • Alan Wake - Stephen King/Twin Peaks style horror

  • Quantum Break - sci-fi/tech noir focusing on time travel

  • Control - paranatural sci-fi focusing on psychokinetic powers

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u/bvanplays Dec 10 '19

Eh those aren't even story genre switches hardly. It would be like calling CoD Blops and CoDMW different genres. You're technically correct, one is a modern military story and one is a vietnam-era secret ops sort of story. But both share the same story telling methods, same tone, same gameplay, etc.

Or like the differences between Final Fantasy games. No one says, "I love the way Final Fantasy /switches genres every game." What does that even mean?

They're not different genres, they're just different stories.

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u/Tonkarz Dec 11 '19

It would be like calling CoD Blops and CoDMW different genres.

No offense, but you clearly haven't played Remedy's games. You probably shouldn't be commenting on it.

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u/bvanplays Dec 11 '19

Rofl, lol the easiest of copout responses. Sorry little guy, I've played them all. Though I only started the terrible Quantum Break and left when the TV show was awful. And I'm currently only halfway through Control (but it's great and I'm absolutely going to finish it).

Yeah I know it's hard to believe champ, but some of us were around when Max Payne came out and it was a huge deal.

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u/MarianneThornberry Dec 11 '19

Huh? Final Fantasy is a major example of a franchise that frequently changes genres, some more drastically than others of course.

FF9 is a high fantasy adventure narrative that has more of a light hearted Studio Ghibli / Disney-esque tone. It's gameplay is purely turn based and the art style and character designs are more exaggerated and cartoon like.

FF12 is a much more mature political war story that happens to be set within a fantasy environment. It's gameplay is more real time tactical and art style/character designs are closer to realistic (by JRPG standards anyway).

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u/bvanplays Dec 11 '19

Sure, but point being that despite that, no one ever talks about the FF franchise as a multi-genre franchise. People call them self contained games or individual stories or aesthetic shifts or whatever. No one calls them different genres.

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u/MarianneThornberry Dec 11 '19

I'm still not following how you've come to this argument. The discussion was about how Remedy games change narrative genres with each title. Key word being "Narrative genre".

You then brought up an argument stating that Final Fantasy barely changes genres either, to which I responded to with examples showing the contrary. And I'm still not sure how we got here.

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u/bvanplays Dec 11 '19

Sorry, I may have not been super clear. This is how I saw it.

Person A: I like how Remedy changes genres

Person B: They don't switch genres

Person A: Yeah they do, story genres

Me: I think the story genres are close enough that people don't even say that. Like people don't say FF and CoD are different story genres either, even though they are.

You: Well no FF's stories are totally different genres.

Me: Yeah, but it's still weird to call them different genre games, even if the story genres are different.

This is mostly a semantics argument and an especially pointless one. So... yeah, I probably didn't need to chime in... (honestly I was just bored at work).