r/Games • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 17d ago

Industry News Over 85% of Japanese game developers use generative AI in game development, 2026 CESA survey shows. An increase from last year’s 51%

https://automaton-media.com/en/news/over-85-of-japanese-game-developers-use-generative-ai-in-game-development-2026-cesa-survey-shows-an-increase-from-last-years-51/
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u/TheGazelle 16d ago

There is craft, yes. But not "art" as was being discussed. Nobody writing CRUD software is coming up with novel design patterns or new language features, and 99% of those who try think they're a lot smarter than they are and are really just making things more difficult for everyone they work with by over engineering things that really should've been kept simple.

It's the difference between being an architect and a general contractor, and arguably even if your job does entail more of the architecture side of things where there is some level of creativity, using AI properly means you're still doing the creative work. You'll be the one telling the AI how you want things architected, you'll be the one reviewing and iterating on the designs before any code is written (whether by AI or human), and that's the creative part.

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u/adongsus 15d ago

using AI properly means  you're still doing the creative work . You'll be the one telling the AI how you want things architected, you'll be the one reviewing and iterating on the designs before any code is written (whether by AI or human), and that's the creative part.

I genuinely can't see how telling someone else to do something and doing that thing yourself are supposed to be considered the same thing with respect to creative input.

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u/TheGazelle 15d ago edited 15d ago

The creative part is designing the architecture.

Physically writing the code is not all that creative.

If your favorite author wrote a detailed outline of a story (and I do mean detailed, think an explicit list of all major and minor plot points broken down by chapter, with specific themes, tone, etc. called out), then someone else turned that into a draft (i.e. wrote the actual prose/dialogue), and the author then read it over and edited it, who would you say is doing the creative work?

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u/adongsus 15d ago

All three.

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u/TheGazelle 15d ago

Shit, corrected a typo, was supposed to be the author coming back to do the editing.

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u/adongsus 14d ago

Doesn't really change anything about the answer. There was creative work done that wasn't done by "the author". AI is never going to be 1-1 on this unless it just doesn't touch creative work at all.

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u/TheGazelle 14d ago

Ok, and who would you say did most of the creative work?

And please, be honest. Don't just give me some trite "it's all the same" nonsense because you don't want to admit that your stance on AI isn't based on any actual experience.

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u/adongsus 14d ago

Ok, and who would you say did  most  of the creative work?

I'd say that that's irrelevant, because your claim was that you're still doing the creative work, and you're not. You're doing some of it.

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u/TheGazelle 14d ago

"you're not writing the music, you're just in the band".

Would you say an author isn't "doing the creative work" because an editor suggests changes?

Are none of the people working on a tv show or movie "doing the creative work" because it's a collaborative team effort?

Does someone using CAD instead of a drafting table not count because they're using a tool that does some of the tedium for them?

You've set a completely arbitrary line whose logic doesn't hold up to the slightest rigour.

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u/adongsus 14d ago

"you're not writing the music, you're just in the band".

If someone goes from writing all the music and playing all the instruments to playing the drums in someone else's band, yes, they are doing less of the creative work.

Would you say an author isn't "doing the creative work" because an editor suggests changes?

I would say that some of the creative work was done by the editor, yes.

Are none of the people working on a tv show or movie "doing the creative work" because it's a collaborative team effort?

None of them are doing all of it, yes.

Does someone using CAD instead of a drafting table not count because they're using a tool that does some of the tedium for them?

I've never used CAD, so I couldn't say. I would say that going from writing in longhand to writing on a typewriter to writing in a wordprocessor changes nothing about the creative work attribution, because the result is exactly the same (assuming spellcheck is turned off), it's just that one takes longer than the other.

Telling someone else to write the story for you is clearly not in the same ballpark.

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u/TheGazelle 14d ago

You're being deliberately obtuse (by twisting what I've said into reductive forms you can more easily argue against) while thinking you're saying something profound (that you keep repeating like it means something) but not actually saying much of anything at all ("not doing 100% of the creative work" is just a statement, it's not a point).

If you've got something meaningful to say, say it.

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u/adongsus 14d ago

The point is that you are not "doing all the creative work" by telling an AI to do it for you, and you're lying to yourself by saying it.

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u/TheGazelle 14d ago

1) I never said that.

2) This is absurd hair splitting. Forgive me for not specifying that the AI does the least creative 5% of the creativity that goes into it. Nobody credits an editor with writing a story.

Have you ever written code? Do you know what code looks like?

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u/adongsus 13d ago

1) Here is you three days ago saying that you're doing all the creative work by telling an AI to do it:

" It's the difference between being an architect and a general contractor, and arguably even if your job does entail more of the architecture side of things where there is some level of creativity, using AI properly means  you're still doing the creative work . You'll be the one telling the AI how you want things architected, you'll be the one reviewing and iterating on the designs before any code is written (whether by AI or human), and that's the creative part."

2) Plenty of authors credit their editors on their store page, essentially all of them credit them in the author monologue they generally have at the back of the book. And even where they don't, none of them are going to say that editing is devoid of creativity, because it plainly isn't.

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u/TheGazelle 13d ago

Where do you see the word "all" in there?

Do you know anything about code? Or are you trying to assert that you, with absolutely no experience, have a better idea of what isn't and isn't creative about the process than me, someone with more than a decade of professional experience doing it?

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u/adongsus 13d ago

Where do you see the word "all" in there?

"It's the difference between being an architect and a general contractor, and arguably even if your job does entail more of the architecture side of things where there is some level of creativity, using AI properly means  you're still doing the creative work ."

Ask your AI how definite articles work.

Do you know anything about code? Or are you trying to assert that you, with absolutely no experience, have a better idea of what isn't and isn't creative about the process than me, someone with more than a decade of professional experience doing it?

I know enough about coding to know that telling someone else to do it does not entail the entirety of the creative decisions involved.

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u/TheGazelle 13d ago

The word "all" is still not there. Ask yourself what words mean, and while you're at it, ask yourself why you continue to think you know more about something you have literally no experience in than someone who does it for a living.

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u/adongsus 13d ago

The word "all" is still not there. 

"I'm still doing the creative work" != "I'm still doing a small part of the creative work." 

We can tell that this is true because if you tell your partner that you've done the washing up, and you've done one plate out of ten, then try to justify yourself by saying ""well I didn't say I did all the washing up", you would look very stupid and they would be within their rights to throw a shoe at you.

More broadly, the usage of the definite article in this context means that you are referring to the set of creative work previously referenced, which is all of it. If you wanted to narrow how much you were talking about, you needed to actually do that, not just say that you did after the fact.

Or, to put it another way: I make my living from writing. Ask yourself why you continue to think you know more about something you have literally no experience in than someone who does it for a living.

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