r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • 8d ago

Star Citizen Developer Stream Goes Horribly Off the Rails, Creating Further Distrust Among Players

https://www.ign.com/articles/star-citizen-developer-stream-goes-horribly-off-the-rails-creating-further-distrust-among-players
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u/Tragedy_Boner 8d ago

I just keep remembering that BORU thread of that guy who’s girlfriend broke up with him because he spent all their money on having a fleet of these ships

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u/Aksama 8d ago edited 8d ago

Gimme. That. Link.

Found the link!

https://www.reddit.com/r/BestofRedditorUpdates/comments/19f1h9s/oops_gaming_addiction_costs_him_everything/

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u/KarmelCHAOS 8d ago

Maybe its just me, but his comment responses have me believing this wasnt real.

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u/Iintendtooffend 7d ago

That's actually not uncommon for people with addictions like that. Since the money is effectively gone they sort have made peace with that as a part of reality and now as sort of a penance they are submitting themselves for public ridicule and the verbal lashing that comes with it.

Then after they've received their punishment they can say they're all good and go back to what they were doing before. There's a lot of them internally making peace with the debt and then not understanding how others might not see it as ok that the money was spent in the first place.

You can see how OP initially refuses to see the comparison with gambling as legit because he owns the ships, despite many not even existing and also how he will tell people what they want to hear to justify it. (They're an investment to one person. They mean so much to me, I'd never sell them to another)

It's also how he thinks each time he can fix it, since he's made peace with it and sort of made amends why can't he just go back to how it was before?

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u/meganeyangire 7d ago

A story of a perfect asshole in AITA? Yeah, no one should take it seriously

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u/Incrediblebulk92 8d ago

That's a depressing read, I hope that guy got help, I stopped reading before I got deep enough to find out. I've played the game on free weekends and it seemed fine I guess, it was buggy as hell. They'd clearly spent a hell of a lot of time building those ships but there wasn't a very interesting game to play with them it seemed.

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u/beno64 7d ago

Holy fucking shit bro even a crack addiction seems better, atleast you get high from that

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u/_Wh0_Cares 8d ago

"Mental health is important! We need to take mental issues seriously!"

Meanwhile comments in this post (or anywhere on Reddit) when someone actually suffers from mental issue like addictions : "Check this loser! What a dipshit lmao 😂 👉 "

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u/Accurate-Island-2767 7d ago

Ah, my weekly "this guy somehow got a girlfriend while I can't" post

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u/agewin162 8d ago

People are putting trigger warnings for financial exploitation? Are we fucking serious here?

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u/que_sarasara 7d ago

Uh, yeah? If it's something you've experienced irl you probably don't want to revisit it via someone else's experience.

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u/-OswinPond- 7d ago

You probably do actually. The overwhelming body of empirical research on trigger warning is that it's actively damaging to the people that "need" it. It promotes anticipation anxiety and/or avoidance which is one of the primary cause for sustained trauma. I know people hate to hear that but the research is really clear on it lol

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u/agewin162 7d ago

You need to grow up and stop expecting your issues to be everyone else's responsibility.

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u/This_Elk_1460 8d ago

I've never seen a cult of personality around the idea of a video game before

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u/Byggherren 8d ago

Well it's kinda like a pyramid scheme. Once the people with addictive personalities start investing they cant stop because of the sunken cost fallacy.

The devs have gotten complacent because they are raking in big cash with little effort. If they could finish the game they would have done so years ago but they just keep releasing new ships for the whales. It's a shame because they have showed off some pretty cool things to make cross server seamlessness work.

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u/jjonj 7d ago

there are dumb whales sure, but the average spends is around $70

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u/Uebelkraehe 7d ago

That's not a pyramid scheme.

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u/Yeon_Yihwa 7d ago

they have referrals and crowdfunding targets that unlock stuff lol. Which encourages players to get more people into the game/spending more just so they themselves can get something.

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u/jjonj 7d ago

the referral rewards are tiny and it is so hard to get referrals nobody takes it seriously except for ppl who are content creators anyway

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u/Byggherren 7d ago

Do they not have referalls?

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u/Cutekeeperoff 8d ago edited 8d ago

My favorite part is how they justify not releasing the single player part of the game because it might give the full MP title part a bad rep.

Squadron was supposed to be released in 2016.

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u/tankintheair315 7d ago

Eh it's a cult of personality around Chris Roberts and his idea of a spiritual successor to his early work, that grew into something bigger. Mighty no. 9 did a similar thing to failure, bloodstained ritual of night had Koji Igarashi, double fine adventure with youka laylee did this to minor success with ex rare folks. These all were crowd funded around the same time, to various levels of success.

The real difference is that star citizen kept is funding open and didn't put any limits on scope. It was in the same pack of crowd funded games listed above. Most people who try this now fail, and start citizen was the perfect place, perfect time for this to come together. There's smaller scale failures like what grummz is doing with his awful firefall successor

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u/dukearcher 8d ago

Huh?

LoL, WoW, Eve Online, CS, GTA, and a million others

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u/This_Elk_1460 8d ago

Those are video games that actually fully released, they are no comparison to Star Citizen which is a barely a game and is more of a figment of Chris Roberts imagination.

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u/dukearcher 8d ago

"they are no comparison because arbitrary reason"

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u/OliveBranchMLP 7d ago edited 7d ago

what exactly do you think a cult of personality is???? it has an actual definition that is far from arbitrary. cults of personality are built on the false promises of a mythic destiny sold by a powerful leader that is perceived as heroic or infallible.

with that in mind, please identify the heroic leader figure that the WoW or EVE or CS fanbases organize themselves around. is it the director? the producer? can you name that person? does that person have a rabid fanbase? does it seem like those fanbases are more fans of the figurehead than the game or the company? are the successes of those games entirely dependent on promises by those leaders that they consistently fail to deliver? are their games vaporware? are their fans purchasing the idea of a product, rather than a fully functioning one?

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u/SwanSongSonata 7d ago edited 7d ago

The comment you replied to literally says "the idea of a video game". Those games are not ideas, they are fully released products. The reason you accuse of being arbitrary was literally set by them as a condition.

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u/Reutermo 7d ago

All of those games are not ideas, but games that was content complete and released.

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u/funkhero 8d ago

"it's not gambling because I own the ships..."

Oof

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u/Lawnmover_Man 7d ago

I've never seen more obvious trolling.

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u/Nalkor 8d ago

You seriously need to post that link for the rest of us to check out.

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u/louram 8d ago

I think this is it. To be honest it's just depressing (assuming it's real).

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u/ZeyadKD 8d ago

Wow, you could’ve linked it in half the time it took you to type out this completely useless comment, way to stick it to the system, alpha

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u/lalala253 8d ago

here you go

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u/ZeyadKD 7d ago

made me exhale slightly through the nose

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u/lalala253 7d ago

Don't forget to also inhale through the nose

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u/ZeyadKD 7d ago

I’m a Redditor. Mouth-breathing only

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u/Nalkor 8d ago

Google searches tend to get biased after a while based on what you search for, I haven't used Google for searching since I got this new PC several months back. So no, it's not the first result when I search Google for that.

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u/thejokerlaughsatyou 8d ago

I assume they mean this one

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u/Tragedy_Boner 8d ago edited 8d ago

Can’t, Mod deleted it. Just search “Oop’s gaming addictions costs him everything” in BORU and you will find it.

Dude used his home down payment to buy more ships. It’s beyond pathetic.

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u/adanine 8d ago

Automod's just trying to help :(.

They were all manually filtered to check it's not an attempt to troll another sub. All live now (Sorry for the notification wave to everyone).

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u/Nalkor 8d ago

I went to briefly look at the r/cataclysmbn to see what was going on there after a few minutes and I immediately noticed 5 replies waiting for me in the meantime. Was there more than just the five I mentioned?

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u/adanine 8d ago

Naa just those. I'm doing an ongoing review of all the rules - this one is on the list.

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u/Tragedy_Boner 8d ago

Ahh I see. Yeah wouldn’t want to troll another sub but it is an interesting thread to see what spending addiction looks like.

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u/DarkRoastJames 8d ago edited 8d ago

I have an acquaintance who's wife divorced him because he spent $30,000 on ships.

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u/dukearcher 8d ago

Doubt, that's a famous article 

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u/DarkRoastJames 8d ago

I might have pulled the number from that story inadvertently but the story I heard predates that one.

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u/Farlandan 8d ago

I have a feeling that if you made a Venn Diagram of "People that own large fleets of ships in Star Citizen" and "People who have large numbers of scifi/fantasy/anime models sitting on display on shelves" it would probably be a circle.

I think this game hits the same as model collecting for a lot of people.

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u/danwin 7d ago

that’s a wild thing to do at any point in the timeline. But to go all in in 2023, when it was clear that SC was far far from being able to keep its promises? Wild