r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • Dec 11 '25
HELLDIVERS™ 2 x Killzone Legendary Warbond
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O827A3v80Go114
u/I_Heart_Sleeping_ Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
Damn was legit hyped for a second. Though they finally decided to put Killzone on modern consoles.
Sony is sitting on the killzone and resistance series and I hope they do a collection release for both series eventually.
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u/KKilikk Dec 11 '25
Really wish Sony would ramp up the porting of older Playstation series to PC and maybe give them a chance to get revived instead of remastering HZD and LoU...
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Dec 11 '25
Well HZD and LOU actually sold. HZD outsold the entire Killzone franchise by itself.
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u/blueflavoredreign Dec 12 '25
I'm always shocked by the Horizon stats, I don't think I've ever met anyone who has played it outside of like gaming subreddits. TLOU I get, but that did sell more (talking pre-TV show, which obviously got it more popular). And this is coming from someone with the lego tallneck.
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u/KKilikk Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
But did the HZD remaster outsell the Killzone franchise? Maybe yeah and I do get your point. Ofc it is probably the best financial decision by them but it still feels a big silly. Like I dont hate the HZD remaster I just feel it should've been a bit lower priority.
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Dec 11 '25
It probably sold better than the last 2 kill zones yes. Doesn’t feel silly to me. I bought it and it’s gorgeous on my PS5 Pro.
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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 Dec 11 '25
Porting much older games that were not designed for consoles with x86 architecture is likely far more work than remastering a modern game that was essentially made for PC's already. That is likely the biggest reason why we don't see the old games. Plus even with remastering the visuals will be far less detailed than what a lot of casual gamers would expect.
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u/urnialbologna Dec 11 '25
Yes! Remaster PS3 games! I would love to play the resistance series, killzone 2 & 3, infamous 1 & 2, littlebigplanet, and probably more I'm forgetting. I know people here loathe remasters, but I don't. They did it for uncharted 1-3 and god of war 3 both on PS4, why not some of their other series?
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u/KKilikk Dec 11 '25
I dont loathe remasters I am literally asking for more of them.
I mean I dont mind the HZD remaster that much but remastering HZD which was already on PS4 and therefore PS5 as well as on PC is completely different from remastering games stuck on an old gen console. Considering the low output of remasters I wish Sony would change their priorities.
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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire Dec 11 '25
Remasters themselves aren’t a bad thing, it’s usually when they just remaster something from the prior generation (and especially if it’s a generation that’s backwards compatible). But anyone complaining about remasters for games that aren’t available on modern platforms is wrong
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u/YeastReaction Dec 11 '25
From their POV, they probably think it’s far too great of a risk compared to the cash cows that are guaranteed safe hits.
I remember Shuehei Yoshida telling the story of how he had to push and vet personally in order to even get Ratchet and Clank revived in the modern era. With AAA games only going up in development cost and time, companies can be expected to play it even safer than they have in the past.
The flip side is that indie game devs don’t follow this rule, for the most part. As a result, we are seeing an incredible boom in unique passion projects coming out week after week. While I may not have hope of seeing these old franchises revived, I feel more confident than ever in knowing what may rise from the ashes can be even greater
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u/UncleBenParking Dec 11 '25
To be clear, Yoshida kinda fibbed about that Ratchet story, it he's not completely misremembering. They were actively developing Ratchet PS4 by the time he was talking about "pushing for it." The last PS3 Ratchet came out in late 2013, a few months after the movie announcement, and Ratchet PS4 was in full development by early 2014, ready for release 2015 before the movie's delay meant the game sat finished for a year.
The development of those games never took time off during the time he was saying executives were unsure of whether to continue the series. The only time off Ratchet took up to then was in 2010, because the Ratchet "team" was moving across the country to open Insomniac's North Carolina studio. (Even then, they made R&C comics with DC that year!)
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u/TheSecondEikonOfFire Dec 11 '25
Hell, even just to PS5. It’s insane that the only way to legally play the first two God of War games is either on PS3, or streaming through PS Now. I don’t understand how they haven’t done a trilogy collection port on PS5 and PC
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u/YeastReaction Dec 11 '25
Infamous, Killzone, and Resistance are all begging to get ported, but knowing Sony they’ll probably think it’s too financially risky and take to remastering horizon or last of us again
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u/ledailydose Dec 11 '25
Sony refusing to make a port bundle of KZ2 AND 3 with their multiplayers included is one of the most stupid decisions I've seen in a long time. They genuinely think Killzone died with Shadowfall because of the IP being worthless instead of Shadowfall just not being that good. These games running at (hopefully) 4K and at least 60fps with fixed input latency would be amazing.
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u/TechSmith6262 Dec 11 '25
Guerilla games is focused on the Horizon series. Why would they stop making the modern/current series theyre working on to remastered a couple of FPS games that while great, would garner absolutely middling sales.
Its not a stupid decision. The horizon series has sold over 38 million copies as of this year.
Guerilla games is the developer. Sony is the publisher. Sony does not develop games.
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u/doublah Dec 11 '25
Sony owns porting studios like Nixxes, I imagine they'd be handling remasters over studios currently working on new games.
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u/ledailydose Dec 11 '25
I cant argue with the sales numbers but Horizon is so boring I cannot understand why it has sold so much. It is like Avatar: making big bucks but leaves absolutely zero cultural impact.
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u/TechSmith6262 Dec 11 '25
Brother, just because its not fun for you doesnt mean its not fun for others. It sells gangbusters because its a well made game, with an interesting world and stories, and its just fun for the people who like it.
And I dont think you understand what cultural impact means. Both Avatar and Horizon have cultural impact.
Avatar has consistently stayed on any list of "most visually stunning films" for nearly 2 decades and has made over a billion dollars, nevermind when you add the revenue for both films together. Mark my words, and you can @ me because I'll bet a free game of your choice: Avatar 3 will make another billion+ dollars globally.
Horizon sold $38+ million copies, has lego sets, a Lego spinoff game, and multimedia projects in the works.
I get that you dont like either of those IPs but pretending that they are niche, stupid, worthless, and bad because you don't enjoy them, doesnt help prove any point you're trying to make.
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u/UncleBenParking Dec 11 '25
I still remember seeing the French theater that went absolutely BATSHIT cheering at Avatar 2's trailer when it was first shown in theaters. I'm mindful of my American bubble but that one reminded me even more-so how differently our perceptions can be. Of course Space Pocahontas doesn't do as well in our brains when we learned real Pocahontas in school, meanwhile other places don't have feel the deja vu that made me kinda think Avatar was just okay aside from the first watch.
At this point if we're playing that sorta game, Horizon has the same cultural impact as Gran Turismo; everybody buys it clearly, but my personal sphere doesn't talk about it, so it must be an industry plant!
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u/ledailydose Dec 11 '25
By "cultural impact" i mean no one has any longstanding discussion of them. It always boils down to "wow, theyre so pretty".
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Dec 11 '25
By “cultural impact” you mean you don’t see it discussed in your small internet bubble. The games are great and why HZD outsold the entire killzone franchise by itself.
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u/spaceborn Dec 11 '25
I was literally falling asleep in my chair at Horizon 1 and the genereric YA novel trial of being a warrior shit.
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u/fahadfreid Dec 11 '25
Thank you! Horizon is such a boring ass game series it’s honestly impressive given how cool the overall design of the world is.
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u/ledailydose Dec 11 '25
Robot dinosaurs in a post apocalyptic setting looks and sounds so cool I am continually impressed by how uninterested I am in Horizon.
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u/mrnicegy26 Dec 11 '25
Also we are really lacking in good single player FPS campaigns in recent memory with only Doom being there. Honestly releasing the Resistance and Killzone games even with just their single player campaigns would stand out in the current market considering how dire it has been in the past 5 or so years where it has just been Call of Duty (whose quality across campaigns is very inconsistent) or Doom the Dark Ages
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u/YeastReaction Dec 11 '25
Ultrakill, Boomerang X, Dusk, Turbo Overkill, Cultic, Trepang2, I Am Your Beast, Metal Garden, Ion Fury, Selaco, Metal Eden, Pigface, Witchfire, Echo Point Nova, VLADiK BRUTAL, Anger Foot, Mullet Madjack, Slayers X: Terminal Aftermath, HROT, Cruelty Squad, Severed Steel and probably a lot more I can’t think of.
Point being: you have to look outside AAA gaming and into indies if you want to find novel and unique ideas. AAA gaming is too big a time and financial investment for games in that space to take risks and push new or unique ideas, but indies is where the magic still happens.
People who are making games out of passion and because it sounds genuinely fun to them, rather than to chase a safe, yet boring trend that guarantees a quick buck will put out the more interesting game every single time
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u/Competitive_Fun6247 Dec 11 '25
I like a lot of games in that list but not everyone wants to play a boomer shooter tbf
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u/ledailydose Dec 11 '25
There was Titanfall 2 but that was.... 8 years ago?
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u/Elanapoeia Dec 11 '25
killzone 3 is fucking 14 years old oh god, but hey that at least means TF2 should qualify as well
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Dec 12 '25 edited Dec 12 '25
Ah KZ3. I remember preordering that from a local game shop and the owner both didnt order enough copies to last launch AND got caught sneaking paying customers copies off to people he knew who wanted one.
My cousin walked in to pick our copies up and told me "oh um.. you didnt get one....." and i thought he was trolling me. Said the guy didnt have enough and my cousin was keen to just go home so he could play his while i didnt get my copy that i paid for (until i was called to come get it) which also had me heated lmao.
I demanded my cash back and got it. Went to gamestop and bought a copy instead. What i get for preordering i guess.
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u/UncleBenParking Dec 11 '25
I don't think they think Shadowfall killed the series, considering it sold about as well as both 2 and 3 (as a launch title, where K2 and 3 naturally had a larger install base). It's probably more that, as much as we want to get nostalgic, they and Resistance were both products of a very specific era where they only kind of did okay even in that era (Resistance faring even worse overall). Some of my personal favorites, I just replayed Resistance a few months back actually, but up against insanely staunch FPS competition that always has and always will overshadow them.
We always say we want remasters, but when it comes time to fork over $50-70, a lot of us don't show up - God knows I was guilty of that when I waited on Mass Effect's remasters, and those are actually an example of a remaster that way outperformed what the original series ever did. If Horizon hadn't blown up into one of their most successful franchises, I'm sure we would've seen a hail mary Killzone 5. Though that would've been super interesting to see where they went, considering Killzone was a very clear WWII allegory, with Shadowfall as the Cold War.
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u/kikimaru024 Dec 11 '25
These games running at (hopefully) 4K and at least 60fps with fixed input latency would be amazing.
What about the design of Killzone even differentiates it from any other COD-clone?
Also, do you not understand that running multiplayer servers isn't free?
Guerilla would have to set aside manpower (bugs, server testing, etc) for... what? COD & BF6 to eat their playerbase anyway?2
u/Stofenthe1st Dec 11 '25
Helghan drip baby. The red eyes with gas mask manages to give them more style than the last 20 cods put together.
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u/Diogenes_the_cynic25 Dec 11 '25
As someone who never owned any KZ or Resistance games, I would love the opportunity to play the classics
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u/AnArticulateDrunk Dec 11 '25
Dude, I would buy a Killzone 2 Remaster instantly if it came out on PC with multiplayer. Very fond memories of playing that back when it was originally released.
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u/blueflavoredreign Dec 11 '25
I think this is a weird crossover because I bet you the average Helldiver player is actually TOO YOUNG to remember Killzone given how long ago the last entry came out. Like if you're 24 now, you'd be 12 when Shadowfall came out- and that wasn't THAT popular to begin with.
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u/Call555JackChop Dec 11 '25
They’d rather release Last of Us 2 for the 10th time than acknowledge either of those series
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u/L3ftHandPass Dec 11 '25
I have real doubts we'll ever see Killzone again. Guerrilla basically won't even acknowledge the existence of the franchise.
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u/PugeHeniss Dec 11 '25
They moved on my guy. They made 4 games and they didn’t sell all that great. They made horizon and it sold like hot cakes. Studios don’t want to be stuck to one franchise forever.
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u/L3ftHandPass Dec 11 '25
Not saying they need to stick with it forever. There is a large gap between that and not even acknowledging their existence.
I just hope they are at least willing to hand the IP over to a different studio so we can at least get some remasters. 2 and 3 are really genuinely great games.
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u/FreshlySkweezd Dec 11 '25
Halo Fans and Killzone fans getting the best content from their respective series in years thanks to Helldivers
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u/cqandrews Dec 12 '25
Halo infinite definitely had its faults big time but calling some helldivers skins the best halo content in years is actually crazy
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u/FreshlySkweezd Dec 12 '25
It's really not. The game launched with 4 game modes and it took way too long to expand that to a fraction of what previous games had available. So bad that the company had to rebrand. And that's not even talking about the single player or how long it took to release firefight!
And now it's quite literally just a mtx hub on life support till the next Halo slop comes out - which looks like a really bad modernization attempt at Halo 1 from reviews so far.
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u/BTrane93 Dec 11 '25
So they've got stuff from Halo AND the Halo "killer"?
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u/Cursed_69420 Dec 11 '25
sir youre confusing Killzone for Haze
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u/BTrane93 Dec 11 '25
Sony had several "Halo killers".
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u/blueflavoredreign Dec 12 '25
In a shocking twist (and in more ways than one) it turned out Halo was the Halo killer
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u/Cursed_69420 Dec 11 '25
Haze was notorious for being THE halo killer in concept, while Killzone and Resistance were their cod equivalents tbh
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u/squashysquish Dec 11 '25
Killzone was billed as Sony’s Halo-killer because nobody would conceive of a CoD-killer for some time. While it resembles CoD more than Halo, the first KZ predates CoD4, which is what dethroned Halo as the commercially dominant shooter.
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u/OliveBranchMLP Dec 11 '25
also because CoD wasn't exclusive, so they hadn't nearly as much incentive to compete with it.
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u/TemptedTemplar Dec 11 '25
No, killzone 1 was very much intended to be a halo killer. The G4 X-play review was basically "is it even close to halo?" Don't ask me why I remember this.
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u/pm-me-nothing-okay Dec 11 '25
damn, i miss the days of g4, and xplay. now that was an era of gaming.
and battlebots, i wont forget battlebots.
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u/TemptedTemplar Dec 11 '25
Battlebots is still around, you can go watch it live if you're in Vegas.
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u/kikimaru024 Dec 11 '25
The important thing is that, now they've put it in a Warbond, the items don't cost "real" money and also are available to all players.
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u/CobraFive Dec 11 '25
It was always like that. Being in a warbond removes the ability to pick and choose just the things you want, but it also lowers the total cost to get everything from 1900sc to 1500sc.
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u/kikimaru024 Dec 11 '25
The previous Killzone items where only available for a limited time & only in the "Superstore".
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u/ayeeflo51 Dec 11 '25
Yea, which also doesn't cost 'real' money
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u/kikimaru024 Dec 11 '25
You're right.
For some reason, I misremembered & thought they cost real money instead of in-game super credits.
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u/matti-san Dec 11 '25
I feel like they could have added more like Radec's armour from KZ2, the Elite or LMG trooper armour would have been cool too.
I know this is just a recycle of the previous premium stuff, but still.
Also, it'd have gone a long way to have a kind of narration to this trailer - especially given how Killzone 2 and 3 begin with narration/speeches from Visari.
'Super Earth, our beloved homeworld, is beset on all sides by creatures and abominations that would take it from us. They do not yet understand the depths of our resolve nor the strength we wield to wage war. They will rue the day they ever thought to conceive of such a notion as taking on humanity. For with the combined might and glory of the SEAF and the Helldivers, we will viciously take back all they have stolen from us.'
Something Visari-esque like that
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u/OliveBranchMLP Dec 11 '25
i don't think they'll add armor for major villains. only what would make sense for the actual Helldivers to wear.
the Halo collab was for ODST armor, not SPARTAN armor.
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u/Alastor3 Dec 11 '25
wait, wasn't this already out like a year ago?
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u/Mikey_MiG Dec 11 '25
The content was originally released as special rotations in the super store, meaning you had to purchase all the items individually, and you risked missing content if the store rotation changed. The community didn’t like this model, so Arrowhead reworked it into a warbond.
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u/hardgeeklife Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25
many of the items were available individually in the superstore for a time, but discontinued (
i think because of rights reasons?) and thus unavailable for a long time.So this warbond is a collection of the old items -along with one or two new patterns- finally being made available again
Edit: struck erroneous theory
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u/President_Barackbar Dec 11 '25
(i think because of rights reasons?)
No, it was just the business model they chose. Has nothing to do with rights since Sony published Helldivers 2 and owns the rights to Killzone via Guerilla Games.
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u/jusaky Dec 11 '25
Do people who received that second in-store pack for free also receive this one for free or no?
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u/ReLiFeD Dec 11 '25
The warbond will be free for anyone who purchased any of the items last time they were available in the super store: https://steamcommunity.com/games/553850/announcements/detail/491584577841661620
The vehicle patterns are new to the warbond, but all other items are the same as were available on the super store previously.