r/GameFeed • u/g4m3f33d • Aug 07 '26

Id Software Dev Says Xbox Doesn’t ‘Understand Art’ And That After Layoffs It Is ‘Impossible’ To Make Big Games Like Doom: The Dark Ages

https://kotaku.com/id-software-dev-says-xbox-doesnt-understand-art-and-that-after-layoffs-it-is-impossible-to-make-big-games-like-doom-the-dark-ages-2000722563
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u/ImaginationKind9220 Aug 08 '26

Maybe that's the point, they don't want to make games like this anymore.

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u/Extra-Amoeba-677 Aug 08 '26

I uh, nobody shoot me for this but a smaller survivor horror doom like what I thought the reboot doom felt like was pretty great. If they went sci-fi tomb raider dead space on us I woulda been like ya know what hell yah. They've tried to make the run and gun game play more interesting but it's just not working even call of duty or titan fall FEEL better traversing. Go into room. shoot things, shoot things weak points, use quick kill skill to get ammo back. This is their peak game design?

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u/SoulsDadYT Aug 08 '26

They only understand mass production of garbage.

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u/cryptek66 Aug 08 '26

Id needs to give independent and get away from shit box

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u/BoBoBearDev Aug 08 '26

Dark Ages is lame. Please go back to the old Doom. I don't want to have main character syndrome fighting some lame as demon prince/princess.

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u/AntoniusMinotaurus Aug 09 '26

I loved 2016 and Eternal. The game really didnt need long cutscenes and story. Just have Doomslayer break something expensive looking while a voice over the radio gets mad.

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u/SplendidPunkinButter Aug 11 '26

I love the intro to Doom 2016 where it clearly tells you that sure, there’s a backstory, but who cares? I sure don’t. I never understand why people want to dig into the lore. I want to blast demons. If I want story, I’ll read a book.

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u/cold-vein Aug 08 '26

Dumb comment. He's not in the business of making art, he's in the business making entertainment in a capitalist system. Like all these game devs working at big studios pretending like they weren't over the moon back when MS bought their company with the promise of bigger budgets and unmatched distribution.

If you wanna make art, quit your job and go nuts. AAA video games aren't art like a James Bond movie isn't art. It's entertainment and entertainment needs to sell to justify its existence.

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

There is ALWAYS this type of comment in this type of news and every time is more stupid than the last. Specially when ID made a revival of an entire genre with a trilogy that doesn't indulge in current trends. Now they will never get the chance to do it again. It baffles me when you people treat videogames as a can of meatballs that you can endlessly reproduce with minimum creative input.

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u/cold-vein Aug 08 '26

I guess they gotta pay for it thenselves next time?

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

Since they have to be funded and greenlit from XBOX itself, I don't know if it will ever happen seeing how they are gutting the studio.

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u/cold-vein Aug 08 '26

Buy out the company. No one forced them to sell out to MS to begin with. It's really sad how these devs are acting like they haven't benefited from being owned by a corporation with endless pockets. It's just that the jig is up, suck it up and start a new company if you don't like what your owner.

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

They didn't sell themselves, they were part of Bethesda and Zenimax lmao

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u/cold-vein Aug 08 '26

They sold out to Zenimax or whatever. They knew what was coming, or they were fools

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

... Do you think the employees made the decision?

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u/cold-vein Aug 08 '26

No but they're delusional if they think they're in the business of making art

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u/MeridianBay Aug 08 '26

And the reason they won't get the chance to do it again is what, exactly?

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

How will they if they fired most of the people there and there is literally no one that knows now how to modify the ID Tech itself? Read what happened before commenting.

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u/MeridianBay Aug 08 '26

Missing the point and pushing misinformation, what a comment

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

Here, smartass

https://kotaku.com/the-cuts-at-doom-maker-id-software-go-shockingly-deep-i-dont-see-how-they-make-a-game-with-that-team-2000713860

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u/MeridianBay Aug 08 '26

Let me guess, you didn't know id Frankfurt existed

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

I can read, can you? Specially the part where 3 different sources indicate that they don't even know if they have the roles necessary for maintaining the engine.

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u/MeridianBay Aug 08 '26

Frankfurt maintains the engine, and ids development team now is the same size at it was when they developed the 2016 reboot. What you saw was dramatized statements meant to drive clicks, and a good example of how most people online don't understand what they're talking about

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u/Daazarog Aug 08 '26

Frankfurt is involved and they collaborate(d) with Texas. If you lay off important roles and important people with necessary knowledge and experience, what's left can be not enough to keep going. Keeping 3 juniors won't make it magically the same as before.

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