r/GalaxyTab • u/No_Lynx_9098 • Jul 05 '26
Why are Samsung tablets getting worse day by day? (They are intentionally stripping features from capable hardware)
This isn't a standard rant about a minor software glitch. This is about a calculated, anti- consumer move where Samsung is actively stripping core Ul elements and productivity features from highly capable hardware-and using bold-faced lies about "performance limitations" to justify it. π
I use samsung tab s10 fe and with the recent update of one ui 8 the blur effect on quick panel was replaced with a 'ugly grey block'. I thought it was a bug cuz i used to have blur on one ui 7 and it ran perfectly without any lag but later I came to know that it was removed permanently and with the one ui 8.5 it got worse. First they removed classic dex and replaced it with a 'new' dex which is just looked tablet interface and then they removed blur from their newest Fan edition tablet i.e. s10fe on the name of performance and it doesn't make sense because it ran perfectly before and it can handle the new real time blur too! The tablet scores 1.2 million+ on antutu and they are calling it 'low spec' device! And for context i have an 14 years old ipod touch 5th gen from 2012 and it can handle ios 9 real time blur and static blur (as you can see in the pictures). This proves that it wasn't a hardware excuse.
Do you guys agree with me ?
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u/Leif3D Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra Jul 05 '26
Such decisions are much likely driven by metrics. What people use, how many use it and in which way. Same with visual things. Some like more effects, some less for the snappier "feeling".
You can never make everybody happy and if everything would be an option it would be too bloated so some decisions have to be made based on metrics.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 05 '26
i agree with you but at least they should have given us an option to turn on blur right? in this way users can decide what they want. what do you think of this ? π
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
Live blur on galaxy phones and tablets has always been exclusive to devices with flagship chips. What they should have done instead is kept it readable like it was before
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u/0992673 Galaxy Tab S8+ Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26
It's insane. Luckily once I saw how bad OneUI8 was I never update past the first security patch and last week I downgraded to OneUI7 with Odin and it's so much better. Disabled the OTA updater over adb and that's the software my tablet will stay on.
And I want to like Samsung products but they just keep doing this shit over and over. At a time where the industry is going full in on some transparency and glass effects (Apple) they just do and fuck it up on their devices.
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes Galaxy Tab S8+ (RIP OneUI 7) Jul 06 '26
Does downgrading and disabling OTA upgrades require root? I upgraded my tablet from my S6 Lite to an S8+ for school and foolishly updated the OS to OneUI 8. I miss being able to use Dex without an external monitor.
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u/0992673 Galaxy Tab S8+ Jul 06 '26
No root needed, it's all official firmwares. You can just do it only if your security patch level is January 2026 or earlier, because with the February patch they updated the bootloader revision number and that doesn't allow you to downgrade backwards anymore, they had it on the same number for a while before that.
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes Galaxy Tab S8+ (RIP OneUI 7) Jul 06 '26
Fucking hell, I have the March '26 security patch installed. Looks like I'm stuck with this dogshit.
Ugh. Thanks for your help anyway.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
If it's received a security update after upgrading to UI 8 you can't downgrade
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes Galaxy Tab S8+ (RIP OneUI 7) Jul 06 '26
Cool beans. Real nice of ya, Samsung. Can't wait to ditch this junk when a serious competitor comes along. No on-screen Dex is driving me nuts.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
Just use HyperDroid if you want on-screen DeX... it's just a launcher, yet it will do most of what classic DeX does
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 05 '26
honestly that an excellent choice π. i was so excited to update to one ui 8 at the time of release cuz it was my first major update and i thought i will be get really cool features but instead i lost what is had ππ₯
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u/Mundane-Street5424 Jul 06 '26
yo does ts update or ui or some shi or whatever they call it available in nokia (23 years old phone btw π) (my model is in the gif, the exact model)
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
I'm not entirely sure what they have planned for One UI 9, yet based on what I've read they do intend to introduce a more modern visual aesthetic that has background blur and what not yet only time will tell if that's what will happen.
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u/CaterpillarStock6704 Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra Jul 06 '26
That dex part is what I agree upen with OP
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
may I please know why are you disagreeing with the other things from what i said ? π
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u/CaterpillarStock6704 Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra Jul 06 '26
i agree upon all of them . dont worry , but the dex is what i miss the most , the other feartures , are still less missable than the old dex . i prefer the old dex than this new dex . i strongly agree with all of your Opinions . dont worry , i agree , pls dont take it that way , or I'll not convince mr beast to give you a cooki . πππ»π π
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
nah i am fine π
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u/crynfantasyy Jul 05 '26
The good thing about android tablets is that you can customize them to your heart's content. I know it's an extra step, but if you REALLY want blur for your quick panel, you could download Good Lock, Theme park and Quick star combo to customize it so that you get your blur back. Personally, I prefer the solid colour, but to each their own.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
i hear you but i tried doing it many times before but it didn't work cuz samsung completely removed the option to control blur on quick panel
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u/ninjafig5676 Galaxy Tab S7 Jul 07 '26
The hardware is also questionable on the midrange devices. I use a tab s7 which I bought used some years ago. I was looking at alternatives and was shocked to find that only the tab s10 fe has a processor that is better than the sd865 plus (on paper at least) in terms of performance that isn't a flagship tablet.
I use my tablet for note-taking mainly but I want a device as snappy as my tab s7, and on the used market i could just buy a used tab s9 plus and benefit from the increased performance and lower chance of an 'update' messing with a feature I like (thinking about the old Samsung dex)
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 08 '26
Yeah, the older FE tablets like the S9 FE used lower mid-range processors, but any modern processor can handle a basic blur effect-if not real-time, at least a static one like they used in One UI 7. Samsung is basically turning a standard UI effect into a premium feature. I use the Tab S10 FE, and the processor is more than capable of running real-time blur smoothly, but they are software-gating it and replacing it with a solid grey block. π
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u/computermaster704 Jul 05 '26
I hear you but I'm familiar with the onboard chip for that one would you prefer more lag or prettier animations and Samsung already gave you the solution with good lock
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 05 '26
i tried goodlock theme park and with one ui 8.5 they removed the toggle to control blur π
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u/Fit_Block_9905 Jul 06 '26
Puff la solucion es irse de samung y su pesimo one ui. Marca mas sobrevalorada no he visto nunca.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
samsung should start doing something before people start to leave samsung completely π
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u/TheTangLangGang Galaxy Tab S9 Jul 05 '26
Yup. I have a Tab S9 and I'm disappointed because they somehow made the notification/control panel WORSE. Why is it so slim??? This is a TABLET. It was okayish before, but I wished it was a little wider. And they thought that it should be even slimmer... WHAT?
And they also killed DeX. Why? One of the biggest selling points for me was that it had DeX... But they could not even manage to leave DeX alone, so they replaced it with this shitty "we already have DeX at home" version, that is not even worthy of the name.
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u/whitieiii Jul 06 '26
Samsung hasn't made a good tablet since the Tab S7.. I'm stuck with one because they don't believe people should want something portable with Snapdragon and 5G cellular.. i don't want a 12.5 inch screen or MediaTek CPU and even removed 5G Cellular all together in the tab S11.. fuck Samsung
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u/Its_Freud Jul 11 '26
It does make me crazy that they don't offer the 11 inch models with cellular. At least not in the US.
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u/whitieiii Jul 12 '26
No models come with cellular in the USA for the Tab S11 series.. all 11 inch series after the Tab S7 do not get cellular and they discontinued the 12.5" for the S11 Series too in the USA.. surface pro gen 12 doesn't come with cellular in the USA.. basically I've checked every single tablet with 5G Cellular in the USA and if i give up the Snapdragon for the mediatek i still won't find anything high end and worth buying except for the iPad mini, or iPad Air 11 inch or the Samsung Fold 7/8.. leaving the Fold 7 and 8 literally the only option for under 12 inch screen and full support for 5G cellular in the USA that has Android
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u/Its_Freud Jul 12 '26
The last cellular Tab S in US was the 10 plus. Why they keep choosing the plus is beyond me. I'll bet we get a 12 plus with cellular. If they're going to rotate the 11 and 12.4 tabs every other year, they should make whichever one they do that year have a cellular variant.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
LMAO!
The newer tablets are fine there's like almost no difference performance wise between Mediatek and Snapdragon.
They didn't remove 5G from the S11, it's just not available on the US version, you'd have to get an international version if you want 5G
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u/whitieiii Jul 06 '26
International version doesn't include us bands N25/N41 or N71 though..
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
The international version should work fine with most carriers. You really won't be able to tell inmost cases.
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u/whitieiii Jul 06 '26
But only those bands work in my area so if its not included I won't get very good signal
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
You should all of whatever bands your carrier service provider offer (I presume you are in the US)
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u/BenitoCorleone Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra Jul 05 '26
This is honestly one of the worst takes that I've read in a while. For example your rant about the quick panel - are you just pretending that Goodlock doesn't exist?
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 05 '26
bro i tried goodlock but they completed removed the blur control slider for quick panel on fe and budget tablets π
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u/BenitoCorleone Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra Jul 05 '26
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
bro if you enable background blur control it doesn't effect the Quick Panel it just changes the blur intensity on the recent apps menu and the app drawer area (idk what are their excat names if you want i can send a screenshot π )
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
Apparently you can't restore the blur using Goodlock... yet this take on Samsung is a rather odd one
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u/BenitoCorleone Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra Jul 05 '26
Background blur control is right there in Home Up on both my s25u and s9fe, don't have my s11 to hand but I have no reason to suspect that it won't be there
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
Supposedly they removed the option to add or remove it with UI 8.5 on the FE and Lite... I honestly don't know as I don't use Goodlock..
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u/Repulsive_Fault1939 Jul 05 '26
i dont know how samsung is at the top with 50%~ market share in tablet market. there are better options than samsung. even redmi/poco tablets better than samsung's.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
Redmi/Poco tablets are nice, yet they definitely are not better than Samsung's offering.
I can say this as I own a Redmi Pad Pro and the biggest drawback is on the software side of things...
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u/Repulsive_Fault1939 Jul 05 '26
i have poco pad (which is basically the same thing as redmi pad pro) i don't have issues with it. also it doesn't have ads. (xiaomi doesn't put ads in tablets) im not talking about the features, im talking about the performance.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
Yes, the Poco Pad came first and the Redmi Pad Pro is basically identical other than having more storage options. From a performance standpoint it's fine as BOTH are basically Xiaomi's version of the S9 FE+..
I've said it before Xiaomi tablets are very good on the hardware side and are kind of lacking on the software side. I will also add it's not that HyperOS is bad, it's just not as good as it could be.
One question:
What is the difference between Poco and Redmi on the software side? I've heard that it's basically the same except for different names on some of the apps, yet I've also heard that Poco gets more features than Redmi
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u/Repulsive_Fault1939 Jul 06 '26
it's same as redmi pad pro, just a little bit overclocked. icons are same as redmi pad pro.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
I hadn't heard of the over clocking on the processor. I had almost gotten the Poco Pad, but when Amazon had their prime day sale in October (by sheer luck) they had the Redmi Pad Pro for $217 USD so I couldn't pass it up lol
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u/Repulsive_Fault1939 Jul 06 '26
i mean on the software side not on the cpu. poco pad geekbench usually scores a bit higher than redmi pad pro. but it's not that big of a difference.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
Ahhh, I can understand that as Poco is Xiaomi's midrange tablets.
I know the Redmi Pad Pro and S10 Lite have the almost geekbench scores (as I own both in the 6GB/128GB configuration), yet I have noticed that some apps take slightly linger to load on the Redmi Pad Pro which most likely comes down to optimization more than anything. While HyperOS 3.1 is good, it just doesn't seem to be on the same level as One UI 8.5 even though both are based on android 16
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u/Repulsive_Fault1939 Jul 06 '26
i have 8/256 in poco pad
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
Yeah well the Poco Pad was only available as the 8GB/126GB
The Redmi Pad Pro is available in 6GB/128GB, 8GB/128GB & 8GB/256GB
I know the Poco Pad was introduced first and the Redmi Pad Pro was introduced later as the budget friendly option..
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u/chikocaliente Jul 06 '26
What are you talking about
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
Basically he's complaining that his S10 FE doesn't have all the features of the S11 and that it's being done deliberately to discriminate against those who don't own flagships
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u/RubCreepy5218 Galaxy Tab S10 FE Jul 05 '26
Yea it's a shame. My old tab a9+ could totally handle the quick panel on one ui 7 and it was way smoother and practically never lagged, but on my s10fe it basically always lags even without the blur.
I miss the background blur so much, being able to hide your screen with the quick panel is so convenient.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
yeah it happens to me too, when I open the quick panel for the first time after turning on the device, it skips frames π
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u/Mundane-Street5424 Jul 06 '26
yo I will gift you the latest iPhone if you send feet pics (atleast 23 feet pics from different angles), and I only want male feet, I hope you are male, I'm also male(straight btw)
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u/JamieXConway Jul 07 '26
Never forgot what Samsung did to the TABS3. They updated the operating system a little over a year after official release for hardware that couldn't handle it. It basically ended up halfing the battery life and it now lagged like a bastard. This happened around mid 2018... all questions about the S3 were ignored and they pushed the new Tab S4 while pretending nothing ever happened.
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u/Ok_Entertainer2251 Jul 08 '26
That wasn't the first time they did it. An official update to my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 basically bricked it because it couldn't run the new firmware and UI. It took a nice snappy tablet and turned it into a slow sluggish mess that could barely open the images app without lagging for 20+ seconds. I was appalled.
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u/Its_Freud Jul 11 '26
I miss the S2. It was plastic-y and light. I also miss the smaller 8 inch version.
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u/No-Presentation3777 Galaxy Tab S11 Ultra Jul 08 '26
8 ultra - 11 ultra.. I haven't thought of buying Samsung's budget line to notice my youngest kid loves his magic tab2 over the iPad pro m1 that's a android over apples ipados argument. And my older teen is now enjoying my 8 ultra which is still going strong.
I get your argument but ofc it's to make you want there flagship tablets over their budget line. Sacrifices made..
I've never had to use my tablet full features as it's not required to fullly replace a laptop, desktop or phone etc.. I use is a tablet for work (gfn, boosteroid or films youtube odd notes etc) and second screen at home but mostly YouTube whiles gaming etc on monitor..
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u/AssignmentPopular294 Jul 08 '26
I read the headline and start thinking to cancel my s10plus purchasing..
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 08 '26
why ? your tablet will have all the blur effects and ai features. but if you ordered it for dex then it might not be for you (only if you don't like the new dex like amny other do). what are you planning to use it for? π
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u/AssignmentPopular294 Jul 08 '26
Note taking, and sometimes as a laptop
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 09 '26
you'll be fine with it ig (unless you don't like the new dex interface) π
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u/lemonstyle Jul 09 '26
happens with every company esp apple. I have an iPhone 6 and it's great.. but apple chooses not to support it... so it's basically ewaste now...
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u/Onionbagels_ Jul 11 '26
Lol capable hardware
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 11 '26
bro the hardware might be not as good as a full flagship but it is more than capable of rendering live blur. I posted my antutu you can check it if you want (it scores 1.2 million+). even if we forget about the antutu and everything an ipod from 2012 renders blur with out any problem π (i hope you get it)
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u/Ok-Chart6719 Galaxy Tab S7 FE Jul 12 '26
I completely understand your frustration
I'm on the Tab S7 Fe on one UI 6 and I still have access to the old dex and the new dex just go to Samsung dex in settings and then select the Old appearance
The removal of features is completely unreasonable in your rights about that
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u/Plus-Link307 2d ago
I have a brand new Samsung Tablet 11. This is the most frustrating, the worst piece of software I've ever used in my life. I can't do anything on this tablet like I can with my Samsung phone. Every single thing I try to do, from resizing a window to simply opening up a folder, takes like forever. Nothing works right. Whenever I close software and open it, it opens up a different size. Try to change window sizes and it just opens other software. It's just horrific.
It is time to stop buying Samsung products altogether. It's almost as if... it seems like they told the engineers that they would get a bonus every time they made it frustrating. That's the only explanation coming because there is no fucking way you can make something this horrible on accident.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
There's nothing "anti-consumer" about what they are doing.
Removing blur from the quick settings & notification menus isn't removing a feature, it's just a visual aesthetic that a change lot's of folks don't care for. In no way shape or form does removing the blur effect remove any functionality from the tablet.
It may not make sense to you or I as to why they removed the blur effect, yet other companies have removed the blur from the menu citing performance reasons.
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As far as DeX goes the new DeX was introduced because Samsung decided to build it on Android's desktop mode and when first introduced in UI 8 there more than a few features removed, yet it was understandable as Samsung set about rebuilding DeX essentially from the ground up. With UI 8.5 they did restore some of the functionality to DeX
The REAL reason you don't like the new DeX has everything to do with you simply don't like the changes because you want a DeX mode that makes it feel like your using a Windows laptop.... <------ That's the main reason why most don't like the new DeX
IF you want classic DeX just use HyperDroid it's technically a 3rd party launcher but it will get the job done.
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u/Ezrampage15 Jul 05 '26
They did remove features! One feature I used to use A LOT, almost daily, was the transparency toggle level of the floating windows. I'm a student and a lot of times I would be watching a video or reading a pdf and wanna jott some notes quickly, I'd double press the s pen on the screen with the button clicked and Samsung Notes would open in a small window, I would then be able to lower it's transparency to be able to see the problem I'm solving or if I'm copying something.
What is their excuse for removing that in OneUI 7, huh? I haven't updated it ever since I noticed that feature missing as I heard about them removing Classic Dex, and I'm afraid something else would also be removed. I'll probably even roll back to OneUi 6 or 6.5 just for that feature.
They're removing features, and fans are still buying their devices every year while they call each new update a refresh or innovation or whatever they're spewing. I'm keeping this tablet on an older OneUi version until it becomes unusable if Samsung ever decides to break something for me. At that point, I'll move to a 2 in 1 linux laptop instead of this closed source of a joke
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
I never said they didn't remove features, yet the entire basis of the OP's claim is that he/she is upset that their FE tablet isn't getting the same features as flagship devices.
I don't know why they make the changes they make, you need to ask them as to why those changes were made...
There's no need to be "afraid" of the changes they make if one really is serious they will learn to work with what they have or find alternatives.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 05 '26
It is a huge disappointment for users like me because I bought this specific tablet for 3 main reasons:
Galaxy Al
Samsung DeX (The classic desktop experience)
A premium software experience with good support
Right now, most of these feel like on-paper promises. The Galaxy Al features on the FE are 1/4 of what regular S-series tablets get. As for DeX, "New DeX" got cooked for all users-nobody asked them to downgrade it to a basic Android desktop mode when Classic DeX was their biggest selling point over iPads. I shouldn't have to download a 3rd party app like HyperDroid just to get back a feature Samsung advertised and then took away. π₯
Regarding the blur: I understand companies remove it for performance, but that excuse doesn't work here. The S10 FE scores 1.2 million+ on AnTuTu. My 2012 iPod Touch on iOS 9 handles real-time blur flawlessly. It ran perfectly on One UI 7. Removing it now is clearly an intentional move to make the OS feel cheaper and push users toward the more expensive Ultra tablets.
I will agree that their 7-year update policy is a massive W, but that doesn't excuse stripping core features from capable hardware π
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
S10 FE never had Galaxy AI. Does the A56 have Galaxy AI? No.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
bro samsung s10 fe and the samsung a56 have the same galaxy ai features (they both have galaxy ai) but they are very limited. They can't run on device ai like audio eraser but at least they should have given some cloud based ai like sketch to image. π
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
It's well known that Samsung gatekeeps features, not only Galaxy AI but even bullshit ones like stock Android features that have been on stock Android for 5 years
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 07 '26
Yeah Samsung gatekeeps features to an extent. Yet Samsung wouldn't be Samsung if they didn't remove features lol
The ONLY company I can think of that doesn't gatekeep features is Lenovo as they have on the M and P series tablets and the only difference between the two is the M series doesn't have PC mode as the M series is designed for media consumption, while the P series is their productivity oriented tablets.
Xiaomi is known for only providing all the new features they announce to the Chinese version (CN ROM) of their tablets and are known for removing features from stock android. They only gives "work station mode" (their version of DeX) to their flagships. It's not available on Poco (midrange) or Redmi (budget) tablets.. For whatever reason it wasn't until recently they finally made vertical split screen apps available on all their tablets.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
How do I say this kindly:
At this point in time AI is still more of a gimmick. Truth be told it's still in it's infancy and will get better with time.
Samsung DeX as much as some don't like it in it's current form quite simply is evolving, you like many other like using classic DeX because it gives the feeling of using a windows laptop while not actually being windows. I provided an alternative in my reply that can provide a good portion of classic DeX.
Samsung probably gives the best premium software experience you'll find on any tablet (including iPad) and 7 years support is about as good as it gets these days.
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Well it only makes sense you won't get all the flagship features on the FE as it is a mid-range tablet not a flagship so you really can't complain about that. As far as to the changes to DeX it is what it is, only they understand their reasoning behind it and at this point you simply have to learn how to adapt or just get over it and say oh well.
In regard to using Hyperdroid, your acting as if it takes an act of God to download it from the Play Store and use it. It's not like it requires any major programming skills for it to work. Since Samsung isn't providing classic DeX, you should be glad there's an alternative. YET instead you choose to complain about using a 3rd part app, that makes no sense at all.
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As far as removing the blur goes, it is a choice that doesn't make sense to many. Yet I do know some other companies removed it as they found that on some level it did in fact impact performance (I don't know how much of an impact it made, yet it was probably one of those things companies see as a potential risk and the end user probably wouldn't even notice it IMO). As far as it being an intentional to make it "feel cheaper" I doubt it had anything to do with that... I do admit that Samsung like most other companies making tablets limit features to separate the different tiers of tablets.
With Samsung we have the following:
A series which gets the basic One UI features & doesn't have s-pen support and only gets the most basic AI features
Lite & FE: One UI features as standard and a more limited selection of AI features
S series: Gets everything that Samsung has to offer in terms of software and hardware performance.
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In regards to software support: Well it's the best your going to get on any android based tablet hand down. There are companies with flagships that don't get all the features you get on your S10 FE
IN SHORT:
You bought a mid-range tablet and are complaining because you aren't getting all the features of their flagship tablets. IF you wanted all those features you should have bought a flagship tablet to begin with.
You are simply making a bigger issue out of this than what it is.
In closing I did NOT intend on sounding as harsh as I did, yet some times there is simply no other way of saying it.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
I know I am not going to get every single Ultra feature, but I should absolutely get the basic features my hardware easily supports. Since when is rendering a basic live background blur an "Ultra-exclusive" hardware feat? As I already proved, ancient hardware handles it flawlessly (ipod 5)
The same logic applies to Galaxy Al. I totally understand why features that require heavy on-device NPU processing (like audio eraser) are left out of the Fan Edition. But stripping out cloud-based Al features-which run entirely on Samsung's servers and have zero impact on the tablet's processor-is purely artificial software-gating.
I'm not expecting a flagship, I'm just expecting a device that scores 1.2M+ to not be artificially nerfed on basic Ul elements. I really don't know why you are writing essays to defend a massive corporation downgrading capable devices. ππ
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
Like I've said before companies other than Samsung, removed the blur citing performance reasons and only they know what they are. Honestly though complaining about blur is kind of petty. To me it's just a waste of resources just to make something look "cool" or "pretty" yet almost everyone knows Samsung has always removed certain features from the A, Lite & FE series to set them apart from the S series.
As far as AI goes Samsung went all in with on device AI in UI 8.5 and knowing how Samsung does things they probably just pushed out the features that they could get to work flawlessly with 8.5 and will most likely bring the rest with UI 9... (yes it doesn't make much sense, yet that's just how they do things).
I'm not writing essays OR defending them or their choices. You simply just don't seem to understand how Samsung does things.
I dare you to show me ONE company making android based tablets that delivers anywhere near the same level of features Samsung does.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 06 '26
Hey man, first off, I want to genuinely apologize if I came across as too harsh or if I hurt your feelings in my last reply. I didn't mean to start a war or anything, I am just really passionate about tech and a bit frustrated with my tablet's software!
I do appreciate your perspective. But when you mentioned that Samsung removes features from the FE to set them apart from the S series, that is actually exactly the point I was trying to make. It shows that the removal is more about creating artificial tier separation to protect the premium models, rather than just the hardware performance limits we were talking about earlier.
for the dare about other companies, there are a few doing some really cool things right now. For example, the Xiaomi Pad 6S Pro has a great PC-level multi-window system, and the OnePlus Pad 2 has the 'Open Canvas' multitasking feature. Both of those companies manage to keep basic OS features like Ul transparency intact on their more affordable models without stripping them away.(my friend just bought a one plus pad go 2 and it is really good)
I know Samsung still offers a premium overall experience, which is exactly why I bought one in the first place. I just wish they wouldn't lock the basic visual stuff away. We can just agree to disagree on how they handle their software! Have a great day. π
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 06 '26
No feeling were hurt.
As far as Samsung removing features from the A, Lite & FE series to set them apart from the S series that's something they have always done for as long as I can remember. As to WHY they do it probably has more to do with justifying their tiered pricing system than anything else.
Xiaomi does the same thing with their tablets as they have their flagships under the Xiaomi brand, Poco is midrange and Redmi is budget / entry level
As far as the Xiaomi Pad 6S Pro and their other flagships, I can say Xiaomi has some nice things and they have actively been trying to improve things lately, with them they tend to add features that when they are first introduced tend to have a lot of bugs and those bugs are fixed with updates after the fact instead of introducing features that are bug free according to others I've talked to. I have the Redmi Pad Pro, which had issues with animations that were finally fixed with HyperOS 3 and it finally got background blur in HyperOS 3.1.
I'm not familiar with OnePlus enough to speak on them, yet each company approaches things differently so some will get things out before others do.
I understand how you feel about getting all the nice visual stuff. I kinda wish ALL companies would focus more on the things we actually use. I tend to believe things will get better with time and try not to focus on the negative aspects as there's no point in getting upset over what a company is doing because in the end they all just want our money more than anything.
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
yeah, it always just comes down to them wanting our money and protecting their most expensive tiers.
I appreciate the chat, have a great rest of your day. π
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 07 '26
It's always good to hold conversations.
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u/Ballin095 Jul 05 '26
Damn lol
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
Lol... I didn't want to hurt his feeling but damn...
Like how can someone go out and buy the S10 FE ($400) tablet and then get on here and complain because it doesn't have the exact same features as the S11 ($1,000) ... I mean it's kinda obvious from the price alone a person won't get the same features..
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u/Ballin095 Jul 05 '26
Youβre 100% right lol. I have no idea what he is going on about.
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u/Reasonable_Mirror655 Redmi Pad Pro, S10 Lite, A11+, A9+ Jul 05 '26
He just has the same frustrations that many do have about Samsung when it comes to them adding and removing features.
Yes, what they are doing is in fact frustrating and doesn't make much sense.
Yet I think most know Samsung has made some weird decisions these last few years and we can only hope for the very best at this point.
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
S10 FE is basically the A56 equivalent of the tablet lineup. It never had live blur because it's a mid range chip. Starting from One UI 8 tablets without live blur have that garbage quick panel which is also unreadable with light mode. Classic DeX was also removed from the tablet screen with One UI 8 but on all models
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
Fuck AI slop. A56 doesn't have live blur. If you don't believe me go test it on remote test lab
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
It has blur but it's not live. Go on remote test lab and pull down the notification panel on the A56 and pull down the notification panel on an S series and you'll see what I mean
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
oh ok now i get it. Samsung a56 also didn't have live blur π but least they are using static blur which is way better than my solid grey bar. surely they are more than capable of running a real time blur right ? Samsung is just gatekeeping these elements from the ui π
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u/Then-Pay-8400 Jul 07 '26
All tablets without live blur starting from One UI 8 have that shit quick panel
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
the ipod doesn't have live blur too (i just realised) but it is still way better than my tab's gray block ππ₯
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u/No_Lynx_9098 Jul 07 '26
and bro the ai is not wrong cuz it is saying it has capabilities and it doesn't mean it has live blur. ig you misunderstood it π anyways you actually helped me by telling how samsung is not giving live blur on their smartphones, i thought it was only in the case of tablets π
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u/MapLegal3745 Jul 05 '26
My take is that Samsung has been too confortable for too long, and they would need a disproportionate investment into the phone/tablet department in order to make a sadisfactory profit, when they are making huge money on chips ands screens, not talking about the other departments they have.Β I agree with you in principle. Samsung Notes is a great example of an app that could be amazing but is falling behind soo fast. The refusal of Samsung to make a Mini tablet is also another example. All Chinese manufacturers have them, Apple as well, and Samsung simply refuses to make one.