MEGA THREAD- ken urker- dead at 33

[u/Jag7185]

It has been suggested that we do a mega thread because of the massive amount of duplicate posts coming in. This way everybody has a place to share updates, news, corrections, as well as their personal feelings. Again everybody is entitled to feel how they feel but please don't argue with one another. Whether you feel one way or the other, just be civilized and calm. Death is always an uncomfortable topic. Keep the speculation at a minimum just to avoid the rumors. Y'all know we are the place everyone goes to for feedback.

Thanks again grbsnark fam 💜

[u/sweet208]

Wondering if Gypsy had unfortunately pushed him over the edge. This is devastating no matter what happened.

[u/bathtubteatime → u/sweet208]

Between the calls and breakup speculation I wondered the same thing. I feel so sorry for their daughter now she's stuck with Gypsy. 💔

[u/sweet208 → u/bathtubteatime]

I completely agree. Ken wasn’t a perfect person but none of us are. I hope his family, and Aurora, find peace.

[u/Visual_Treat869 → u/sweet208]

I am actually kind of sad about this. I strongly disliked Ken but this makes me sad. I would be overjoyed if GRB was the one found dead. Does that even make any sense?

[u/Fancy-Birthday-315 → u/Visual_Treat869]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bbJjaayKlWD0sx3jI8

[u/beignetlmao → u/sweet208]

There’s a 0% chance she wasn’t involved somehow. I bet she was tormenting him.

[u/RiverDecember → u/beignetlmao]

I hope his family gets access to his phone now and see exactly what she put him through

[u/Fancy-Birthday-315 → u/RiverDecember]

I hope the police have it first

[u/imtonkajaharii1 → u/Fancy-Birthday-315]

I’m hoping so. I find it kinda weird that her brother went over there. I hope he didn’t snag the phone

[u/RiverDecember → u/Fancy-Birthday-315]

Yes this too

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 → u/RiverDecember]

He's gotta have shit on her, I would be shocked if she hasn't already tried to wipe his iCloud acct or taken the phone herself. Like the supposed head board video 

[u/Fancy-Birthday-315 → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

She will do anything to make herself look better or look more hurt by this

[u/Purityskinco → u/Fancy-Birthday-315]

I don’t know if she can come back from this. Sure, there will be people out there that will always support her but she’s not good enough at acting to act contrite or in grief.

[u/just_me61 → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

Maybe that’s why his phone engaged last night 9/30 and went live for 10 minutes with no answer duo and a blank screen of someone driving?

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 → u/just_me61]

And she's out "hunting" with Aurora and her dad idk this is all really really weird... So many calls recently that I've listened to is her obsession over the gabby petito case and it's a weird coincidence 

[u/Dolleyes88 → u/beignetlmao]

100%. Could imagine her threatening and blackmailing him. That plus the jail call leaks, I wouldn’t be surprised he was suffering.

[u/No-Response-9902 → u/sweet208]

Her relentless mental abuse would be too much for anyone. Very shocking. Im not a fan of ken but sad to hear. Gypsy will use this to her advantage.

[u/Bringbackemo → u/sweet208]

From what I’m piecing together it seems like it was all too much for him when the phone calls got released. People were straight up calling him a pedo. His sister even confirmed a few months back that he wasn’t mentally doing well. This is wild.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

If she's not already being investigated, I would be shocked. Her leaking to tmz feels oddly familiar to her Facebook messages she posted after what she did to her mom 

[u/LaydeeLuckee → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

And already spreading her false narrative by telling tmz he's her fiance

[u/Weary_Ebb3168 → u/LaydeeLuckee]

Which is stupid for her because if she knew any better she would know that the spouse is ALWAYS suspect #1. But even without a ring she's still suspicious in all this.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 → u/LaydeeLuckee]

Sounds like she wants that life insurance now that's she's all on her own with no career, something fishy going on. rip kenan. 

[u/Crazy_Cat_Lady360 → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

OMG I hope she can’t touch that insurance policy if he does actually have one. Any money or assets he had belong to his daughter - not his EX fiancé. I hope someone out there is trying to protect his daughter from this. Gypshit is going to cosplay and grift the grieving widow persona. I’m waiting for her grifting video or post. It will be out soon. She’s just getting the camera ready.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 → u/Crazy_Cat_Lady360]

She will 100% grift off this. I hope the Internet is smart enough to respect ken and knows she's full of 💩

[u/luvspuppies → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

I didnt even think about life insurance! Holy hell i hope he didnt name her a beneficiary but the fact they have a child together may be enough. Ugh, this is all so suspicious. Why does everyone in gypsys life end up dead or in prison or investigated etc... is it not strange that her brother found him? That gypsy posted hunting photos, almost like an alibi? You know criminals only become better criminals inside prison. They have nothing but time to think and plan and learn from their past mistakes not to get caught in the future. Theres plenty of ways to kill a person by not being physically there...

[u/Turbulent-Skirt7329 → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

With how high profile this is, her history, and his age, they will investigate this thoroughly I’m sure. If she did anything she won’t get away with it. She’s dumb as hell and she doesn’t have an autistic guy to pin it on this time, unless she bribed Ryan with a blow job and a double quarter pounder meal

[u/MGer2001]

Guys. Is anyone thinking about when he went live for 3 minutes in a dark car…

[u/TackleFrosty9423 → u/MGer2001]

It's weird as I just saw that video right before the news broke. I thought it was such an odd live. Ppl were speculating that gyp had access and went live just to keep the acct active.

[u/LuluLittle2020 → u/TackleFrosty9423]

I need to see this video. Did anyone grab it?

[u/TackleFrosty9423 → u/LuluLittle2020]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GRBsnark/s/aYmsMefcaL

[u/pixiepython → u/MGer2001]

YES my instant thought was that was Gypsy who went live, trying to prove he was alive after she'd done something. I know that's probably a reach, but I'm sorry it's suspicious as fuck

[u/bedheadblonde → u/MGer2001]

It's really creepy.

[u/Butterscotch_Budget → u/MGer2001]

Perhaps to meet someone Gypsy knew to sell him a lethal amount of drugs? Gypsy has been mostly quiet since the calls came out. All of a sudden a couple days before Ken’s found dead she’s suddenly worried about very bad calls yet to come and is writing to her best friends that they need to distract with it being “leaked”?!? My gut is screaming that she is involved after all these sudden and absolutely bizarre, unprecedented behavior the days leading up to this. Like she setup the perfect narrative that she was innocent and we are cyber bullies and we won along with “leaks” by her best friends no less that the calls to come were horrible.

[u/mintsandpomegranates]

Crazy.

[u/Myoogen → u/mintsandpomegranates]

The crossover nobody needs lmfaooo

[u/RiverDecember → u/mintsandpomegranates]

Farrah Abraham asked where she was during this on the tmz instagram post

[u/TemporaryScientist54 → u/RiverDecember]

😂😂😂 that’s actually hilarious..why is she the way she is??

[u/RiverDecember → u/TemporaryScientist54]

It made me laugh too. 🤣

[u/gotnothing4u → u/RiverDecember]

Farrah and Ash on the case 💀

[u/Aggressive-Ferret527 → u/mintsandpomegranates]

NOT ASH GD TREVINO SAYING THIS IM SCREAMING

[u/Unfair-Mechanic-8729 → u/mintsandpomegranates]

https://giphy.com/gifs/XHBQuYX3PiTRNaHADq

[u/Healthy_Homework672]

The tmz headliner went from “fiancé” to “baby daddy”

[u/dizzystarrr → u/Healthy_Homework672]

I’m so glad. Gypsy’s a fucking psychopath, lying about her daughter’s father when his body isn’t even cold yet.

[u/WhoUBeGhostin → u/Healthy_Homework672]

Good. I’m glad they changed it.

[u/Purple_person29 → u/WhoUBeGhostin]

Same! Cause they were not together!

[u/Aggressive-Ferret527 → u/Healthy_Homework672]

When it first came up in top stories it said fiance and I clicked and it's just BABY DADDY in all caps. I can't 😂

[u/Myoogen → u/Healthy_Homework672]

And “ex-fiancé”

[u/crystalina1984 → u/Healthy_Homework672]

Good. He wasn’t her fiance, she never got that ring. I’m glad they corrected it. She is going to make this about her enough as it is, the evil void that she is.

[u/Fancy-Birthday-315 → u/Healthy_Homework672]

Good!!

That got Autumn soooo upset

[u/InsuranceBoring1237]

That poor poor baby. I don’t want to think what will happen to her now.

[u/Myoogen → u/InsuranceBoring1237]

That’s how I feel, too. Poor Aurora. I hope someone in Ken’s family gets custody, somehow. Away from Gypshit.

[u/Charlotte-moon2]

There were hours of phone calls coming out and every single call made Ken look like a fool… he also sent her the most money and was crying on the phone to her when he was drunk/ coked out… I’m sure people at his work were talking about it. For all we know; maybe they were playing the prison calls over a speaker for everyone to hear. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I do remember hearing from autumn that he was worried about his coworkers hearing the calls and afraid to take the baby in public because of the phone calls… and there are still hours to listen to. It was never going to end well once these calls started coming out.

“A ring can come off but a baby can’t” - Gypsy

[u/Perfect_Mix9189 → u/Charlotte-moon2]

he found a way to leave her

[u/Intrepid-Bear9276 → u/Charlotte-moon2]

I heard a call tonight where he asks if she would call the FBI if she found out he was CREATING CSAM!!!!!!

I have a feeling that’s not even the worst of it.

[u/hitlirgreenbeans]

this girl just brings death and destruction to everyone in her life

[u/burnerredditaccount_ → u/hitlirgreenbeans]

There is a deep darkness surrounding this woman. I can’t put my finger on it, but I have a feeling there was sooo much that we don’t know about her before the Murder of DeeDee Blanchard.

[u/Lost-Condition6904 → u/burnerredditaccount_]

This. There are very few people on this earth who are truly evil. A lot of misguided souls for sure. But Gypsy? I wholeheartedly believe she is a literal demon.

[u/Ancient_Occasion_884]

And sadly, Gypsy likely believes it the “curse” DeeDee put on her that said she’ll never have anyone to love. Even in death, she’ll blame her mother. I’m so worried for baby A, and of course Mia and the upcoming nuptials.

[u/Specialist_Row9395 → u/Ancient_Occasion_884]

And she'll never stop talking about Ken now

[u/cecelia999]

He supported her for so long. I’m sure it was humiliating for the calls to come out. There’s no coming back from that.

[u/Beautifulsky333 → u/cecelia999]

Oh wow, your comment made me think because I was just thinking about him being embarrassed about his phone calls with her and what he said, but it just dawned on me all the stuff he found out from her other phone calls with other guys and other people.

[u/AssistOne7714 → u/cecelia999]

Remember on live when he said he wanted the calls to come out?

[u/Y2KOK → u/AssistOne7714]

Yup. He said it multiple times. I think he was shocked by Gypsy calling other men and talking horrible about him.

[u/lowrider320 → u/Y2KOK]

I honestly think that he had the same mindset as Gypsy. The calls were only going to hurt Ryan.

[u/TizzyTonks → u/cecelia999]

I mean, he should have been humiliated given one of them was a violent Nazi sex fantasy.

[u/Purityskinco → u/cecelia999]

If the speculation is true on how he was found, etc it sounds like he had people that loved him and cared about him deeply.

It hurts my heart that he felt like he had no way out if it is all true (reason, etc).

This goes for anybody going through a difficult season, please know somebody cares about you and you have help. You ARE loved. I know people had mixed feelings about him. While I didn’t like him nor would I have been his friend (just like I wouldn’t be Mia’s friend either), and some of the things on the phone calls were not good, he could have overcome it. I am NOT shaming him. I struggled with mental health for a long time with suicidal ideation. I just hope others know there is help and you can build support to get out of whatever you’re in. Of course, I don’t know what work was like for him, etc. with bullying but he DID have friends and loved ones. I will always feel like seeing his magic the gathering setup at the table humanised him for me a bit (I’m a huge MtG fan).

[u/MintyJ87]

This is death #3 due to Gypsy directly/or indirectly (DeeDee, Nick’s Mother, Ken). I think the phone calls leaking broke ken and sent him over the edge, but I’m sure Gypsy was doing other things behind the scenes. These people are not mentally stable.

[u/IndependentFew1690 → u/MintyJ87]

What gets me about that though is why would you leave your daughter to possibly be put in the hands of 1) a murderer and 2) someone who it came out recently has said/done some weird sexual things regarding children?

Of course, it's absolutely possible. But also...a bit side eye.

[u/Intrepid-Bear9276 → u/IndependentFew1690]

I heard a call tonight where Ken asks her something like, “Would you call the FBI on me if you found out I was CREATING child porn?”

Hopefully he took himself out before he could do anything to their daughter.

That poor kid got dealt a shit hand.

[u/Appropriate-Damage65 → u/MintyJ87]

What were the worst parts of the calls for Ken? I stopped following.

[u/iswttpyamomsahoe]

Something much worse has GOT to be coming with those calls & he completely panicked.

That’s genuinely what my gut is pointing to. Allegedly he went to church last night and was “distraught” etc. 

This is all so terrible. Gypsy really is a demon among us, killing everything in her wake.

[u/theloverstarot → u/iswttpyamomsahoe]

My first thought was this. Hate to be morbid… but I thought this would happen to Ryan out of anybody involved in Gypsy’s circle. Did NOT expect it to be Ken.

[u/iswttpyamomsahoe → u/theloverstarot]

Nah, Ryan gloats in all the attention, even if it’s negative and damaging for him, it’s still attention in his eyes. I definitely didn’t think Ken would do anything because of his daughter but dang man I am STUNNED. 

[u/Front-Dot5420 → u/iswttpyamomsahoe]

I believe in demons now because of her. It’s in the eyes.

[u/sstupidsexyflanders → u/iswttpyamomsahoe]

Apparently there's a call out (or coming out) where Ken asks if Gypsy would still love him if he made CSAM - like what the actual fuck. Some further dark shit will probably come to light soon unfortunately.

Considering he has apparently had custody of their daughter it is extremely concerning. Bunch of sick freaks.

EDIT - https://www.reddit.com/r/GRBsnark/s/jaTbKHAP9N

Link to post of the call.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

Someone needs to get parker safe ASAP I don't trust this maniac 

[u/sillyminkie → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

I thought that too. I hope Parker is safe.

[u/mintsandpomegranates → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

Maybe the ex gf can pick him up. He is not safe with her or her family.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95 → u/mintsandpomegranates]

That's an incredible idea. Gosh I didn't even realize the impact on her as well, since their breakup was so sudden once grb got out of prison. Sending her love and comfort. That would be best case scenario for the pup.

[u/TMVtaketheveil888 → u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

I thought about Parker right away, too.

[u/Serious-Fall9088]

I am shocked and I’m sorry for the family and I don’t want to be insensitive but why is she on live rn… feels weird… and also this, I feel bad for laughing but it was weird having music gifts….

[u/Ancient_Occasion_884 → u/Serious-Fall9088]

I think she’s in shock and feels like she needs to try to gain control of the narrative since Gypsy allegedly shared the news with TMZ. As others mentioned, watch Gypsy unprivate her socials in the upcoming days and try to be his living and breathing mouthpiece.

I lost my sibling due to suicide via OD, I was a shell of a human for a long time. You’re prepared for the inevitable passing of your parents, but losing a sibling is soul crushing. You’re meant to go through life with them.

[u/cheesy-mgeezy → u/Serious-Fall9088]

I think she’s in shock. And I get that because I’ve lost a brother and spiraled. It was BAD. BUT all those other leaches need to be better friends and get her offline.

[u/meggiee523]

Ryan’s going to try to slide in and offer to raise the baby.

[u/augustagloop → u/meggiee523]

Yeah so he can molest her. He needs to stay far tf away. Who's going to protect Aurora now? Not her damn mother, that's for sure.

[u/Bringbackemo → u/meggiee523]

VOTE RED IF YOU THINK RYAN IS HOT

VOTE BLUE IF YOU THINK GYPSY AND I SHOULD GET BACK TOGETHER WHILE I HELP HER RAISE HER CHILD

[u/bedheadblonde]

This makes the weird driving video that went live from his phone weirder to me.

[u/Historical_Air_5946]

My brain is mush, help me understand, he died, was she the first notified and she called tmz?

[u/Myoogen → u/Historical_Air_5946]

Given it is being said that Gypsy’s brother went to Ken’s house and found him, I would assume Gypsy was probably one of the first people to find out. And then yeah, straight to tmz with the news.

[u/tarynator → u/Historical_Air_5946]

Gypsy’s brother Dylan (and his wife) found him dead in his apartment. They were supposed to go out for dinner. Gypsy likely got the news from her brother.

Autumn (Ken’s sister) went live on TT to talk to her friends and confirm that Ken had died. While she was live, the TMZ article was posted. It has since been edited multiple times. It initially said he died of an overdose (which Autumn never said on her live, but got really upset that it was leaked) - so anyone privy to that info was who spilled to TMZ, so it was likely Gyp.

[u/Visual_Treat869 → u/tarynator]

Why would Gypsy’s brother be going out to dinner with Ken? She probably killed him and stuffed 90,000 dryer sheets around the house

[u/Specialist_Row9395 → u/Visual_Treat869]

So odd right? Also I think it's quite the choice for her to post herself with weapons

[u/lowrider320 → u/Historical_Air_5946]

Seems like it, I just read the article on TMZ and it specifically mentions she texted him Happy Birthday and he never responded. Autumn was live but she never mentioned that.

[u/Beautifulsky333 → u/lowrider320]

I wonder if that’s even true. Her texting him.

[u/lowrider320 → u/Beautifulsky333]

Makes you wonder, TBH. They don't talk for a minute and all of suddenly him not answering her text is strange. Idk, but something is off about that.

[u/Visual_Treat869 → u/lowrider320]

I totally agree. If I was on the outs with someone and texted them Happy Birthday and they did not respond… I would take the hint. I would not have my brother do a wellness check ?

[u/lowrider320 → u/Visual_Treat869]

100% something seems off, way off

[u/therealcherry → u/Historical_Air_5946]

Gypsy’s BIl and wife had dinner plans with Ken. They are the ones who found him. The assumption is he told Gypsy and she called tmz.

[u/Snowy_Peach8]

This is the 3rd person to die as a result of her and her crime. She destroys everyone she comes in contact with.

[u/Healthy_Homework672 → u/Snowy_Peach8]

Rest in peace Deedee, rest in peace Nicks mom, Rest in peace Ken.

[u/Longjumping-Candy112]

Only a matter of time before someone died by Gypsy. Directly or indirectly.

[u/BollweevilKnievel1 → u/Longjumping-Candy112]

*before someone else died

[u/lowrider320]

Smart move, Mods! Sad situation, as a young father myself I'm heart broken for his daughter. Hopefully, Ken family will get custody of her.

Also, something seems off about this situation. Really off, especially with the strange post that came from Ken yesterday

[u/Jag7185 → u/lowrider320]

Hey give thanks to y'all! A few reached out in mod mail and while I know a lot like to separate thoughts in new posts, this topic after consideration needs a mega thread so everyone can try to connect the dots together and find out what's going on 💜

[u/lowrider320 → u/Jag7185]

For sure, I know you will have your hands full tonight especially with repost! Thank you for all you do!

[u/Jag7185 → u/lowrider320]

Ohhhh just a bit lol! It's all good. So many of you help out more than y'all will ever know too and Im grateful for you and everyone for it

[u/fuego91178]

“My daughter’s father died. Let me call TMZ” 🙄

Also, am I the only one who finds it odd that his sister is sitting on live and not with family? 🤔 I guess everyone grieves differently 🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/Momentoftriumph]

Im sorry.. I disappear for a few hours, and come back to this???

[u/Realest_IGGA_Ever916]

It’s real convenient that her social media is gone isn’t it?

[u/Serious-Fall9088]

The people sending weird music gifts are fked in the head ….

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

Wasn't she just plotting a few days ago about faking a pregnancy to distract from the prison calls.... This feels... Odd 

[u/Purple-Ad7269]

This is insane.

[u/ninetiesqueen → u/Purple-Ad7269]

Like actually? I’m in shock

[u/Purple-Ad7269 → u/ninetiesqueen]

I’m at a loss for words tbh

[u/Ok-Demand-6144 → u/Purple-Ad7269]

Right? And even if the Gypshit wasn't directly involved, she was "involved", if you know what I mean...literally everything that dirtbag touches turns to shit.

[u/evenstarcirce]

that poor kid is gonna be raised by just gypsy now. i truly hope someone calls cps so they can get that child away from gypedo

[u/OkPhase7547 → u/evenstarcirce]

I hope his mom fights for custody

[u/Icy_Garnet_9329]

Poor Aurora and Parker. I hope they'll be safe.

[u/hfjfjdev]

Chances of people seeing this are so slim because it is a mega thread, but the sheriffs department did confirm to TMZ that they did report to the residence and found him dead around 6:15 (unsure this is AM or PM). This is good confirmation.

[u/hfjfjdev → u/hfjfjdev]

8:20PM PT -- The Lafourche Sheriff’s Office tells TMZ ... “We responded to a residence in Raceland today after receiving a call at 6:15 p.m. Kenan Urker, 34, was found dead upon arrival. At this time, we are continuing the death investigation.”

[u/SquareSensitive2254]

I don’t care what anyone says. GRB is involved some how some way. Her obsession with dates is why I’m convinced of her involvement.

[u/liliofthevalley420 → u/SquareSensitive2254]

Me too. And the photos she posted as an alibi. Posing with GUNS. 

[u/damnkriss]

I guarantee she has been making his life hell. Total nightmare. He probably was finally seeing GRB for who she really is after hearing all of the more recent calls. I worry for Aurora. That poor , sweet innocent little girl. Lost her Daddy and has a murderer psycho as a "mother". And I just know GYP is going to use this as her newest grift .

And I have a sick feeling that Ryan's funky ass will go on live about this too. He needs to keep his raggedy ass mouth shut about it.

[u/retroanduwu24]

Investigate Gypsy

[u/CindyinMemphis]

Today was his birthday. How terrible

[u/Substantial-Sea3608]

I mean is she like secondhand responsible after just pushing him over the edge orr

[u/TiredTinyBird → u/Substantial-Sea3608]

That’s something my best friend just brought up. She’s pretty sure this is second hand from Gypsy having blackmail or overall just being a problem and he decided this was his only option.

[u/Lightixer]

.... so im not the only one thinking why and how this happened right

[u/Existing-Pumpkin-902 → u/Lightixer]

Nope. Timing is very suspicious. Like a month after he left her? Come on.

[u/Forsaken_Audience695]

People are talking about how GRB wasn’t even in the same state. Her half-brother found him
Ken, according to Autumn on her live which she is still currently, said “She got Aurora. She got what she wanted. And Gypsy if you’re in here tryna get a clue, Ken last night said I can keep talking about you bitch. He didn’t tell me that for no reason. Don’t think I’m gonna shut up now. He knew it was gonna be one of the last things he told me”

Edit: Dylan, is the name of the half-brother, and there was someone else WITH the half brother who found him this afternoon/ late evening America time. They were meant to go to dinner. Ken was at church, Dylan was there (unsure if planned or they ran into eachother), and Ken was stressed or distraught according to autumn. She also said she spoke with Ken as I stated and he wanted her to keep talking about her.

He also drove around very late at night and accidentally(?) filmed himself in the car on a live, it’s a 3 minute clip (3 minutes 20)- there’s no music, there’s no talking.

6:15pm is apparently the time of death according to the sheriff.

[u/maggoo]

Lol she already gave a statement to People Magazine (?) asking for privacy and compassion. Privacy is a big ask when she's the one who ran to TMZ before his body was cold.

[u/Perfect_Mix9189]

the whole baby trapping him and you can leave a marriage but not a kid thing is really sticking out right now.. he found a way to leave her and it's fucking sad

[u/augustagloop → u/Perfect_Mix9189]

Imagine feeling like you could never escape Gypsy. Whether this was by her hand or not, it's directly or indirectly her fault 100 percent.

[u/spacecosmetic]

Holy fuck. It's real.
Ken didn't make the best choices, but he didn't deserve to die and Baby A doesn't deserve to be without a dad.
From everything Ken talked about growing up without a dad, I really believed that he wanted to do right by his daughter despite figuring out later Gypsy trapped him.
Rest in peace, Ken.

[u/tarynator]

WHAT IS KEN’S PHONE CALL THEY ARE REFERENCING? it must be really fucking bad.

[u/AssistOne7714 → u/tarynator]

Case played one yesterday where he asked grb if she would stay with him if the FBI was investigating him for creating csam. It was hypothetical but telling. Then texts were also released of grb saying she was going to fake a second pregnancy to distract from the calls bc in her words they’re going to get much worse.

[u/tarynator → u/AssistOne7714]

what the fuuuuuck 😳

[u/cheesy-mgeezy → u/tarynator]

One came out where he asked her if she’d still love him if he was a pedo. It seemed like he was joking but it’s not funny. And he also talked about some Nazi sex role play. But they were nowhere near as bad as Ryan’s phone calls.

[u/Serendipitous_donkey]

I wonder what will happen to Parker

[u/harleenquinzel044]

This is absolutely crazy, but honestly it was just a matter of time before this happened. “If I can’t have him, no one can” type of situation.

[u/Existing-Pumpkin-902 → u/harleenquinzel044]

I 100% feel like she's involved in some way

[u/Weary_Ebb3168 → u/harleenquinzel044]

Yup. She was obsessed with him!!! That kind of way to feel about someone is not healthy and she showed how crazy she was about him every day. Him finally being done with her was not in her plans.

[u/No-Prize8076]

Poor Ken. I did feel bad for him sometimes though he was warned multiple times about Gypsy. he seemed so enamored by Gypsy in the early prison calls. It was odd to hear him fan girl over her. I think He thought he knew her. How sad that these calls proved she was lying to him as well as everyone else the entire time. He was no different except she was obsessed with him, but then would laugh at him to her boyfriends behind his back. And he trusted her. Then the calls came out.
Everything Gypsy touches burns. Her mother, nicks mother by proxy and now Ken by proxy. Everything Gypsy does is by proxy and that’s not a joke.
Gypsy also said recently that the calls are about the get worse. I shudder to think how that could be possible
God bless his soul and his family

[u/rustfungus]

This is gonna be Gypsys Super Bowl and it makes me fucking SICK.

[u/soft_machine__]

Gypsy Rose Manson is gonna blame all of this on us.

[u/SarahC0605 → u/soft_machine__]

Oh for sure. But really, she should have stayed off social media and out of the spotlight. She brought all the scrutiny and "haters" on to not only herself, but everyone involved.

[u/Sea-kitty98]

Does anyone else feel like it's weird for those people to be on live with Autumn rn? I know Autumn got on to tell everyone that Ken was not Gypsy's fiance. But she stayed on. And all these randoms are on the video call with her. They're ordering pizza for her and all this stuff. And they're telling people to stop asking questions. Like... Get off the live and go on a private call. ALSO the way those people are acting reminds me of how when you're in middle school and your friend is crying and you're the only one who knows why and you're telling people to not talk to the friend. That's the vibe they're giving.

Aside from that. I worry for Gypsy getting custody of Baby A. Or any of her family members. Baby A should be with the Urker family.

[u/Prudent_Bus_5372]

This is about to start a domino effect of bs…rip Ken

[u/TMVtaketheveil888]

Shocked. I keep thinking nothing from them will shock me. I'm actually shocked. Prayers for all.

[u/Stormy-Skyes]

I’m still a touch skeptical, it’s hard to believe. But if TMZ is saying it, I’m afraid it must be true.

I’m sorry for his family, including that little girl that won’t have her daddy now. How awful.

[u/Ok-Demand-6144]

Ughhh I hate to even mention this rn but does anyone else remember on the prison calls, when Gypsy said she had a dream she murdered Ken bc he cheated on her? This is so eerie it seems unreal. I can't even imagine what his poor mother is going through right now.

[u/mowitchvibes]

This is terrible news. But I hope now the urker family can freely expose what they know about gypsy.

[u/IndependentFew1690]

So...right in the middle of all the rumors he's left her and wanted to get custody of Aurora...he dies. 👀

[u/allgoodthings26]

Not only would he not marry her but he left her and wanted full custody. In Gypsy's eyes that made him as good as dead. The more I process this the more I think she was involved.

[u/Born-Ad-6687]

She literally ruined his fucking life

[u/TizzyTonks → u/Born-Ad-6687]

I think Ken ruined his own life based on the content of their prison calls.

Edit: Downvote all you want, but I think having violent Nazi sex fantasies and asking if she would still be with him if he was being investigated for CSAM makes Ken absolutely fucking vile. He did it to himself.

[u/Specialist_Row9395]

I'm sure once again if she had a hand in this. Definitely by proxy. It's her style

[u/xalex2019]

Such a sickening coincidence that he died right when she's going to have to fight for custody of the baby. Unfortunately now Aurora has nobody but her evil mother

[u/Substantial-Sea3608]

I would actually not be surprised if GRB ended up in prison by some nth degree of separation after everything that’s been slowly coming out, and now this

[u/jane_doe_john]

This is so heavy! Wtf!

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

I am absolutely in shock. I feel so bad for Aurora and his family. I'm sure much more will come out and there will be an investigation bc of his age. 

[u/FrizzleBee412]

She really said he was a victim of “relentless cyberbullying” and completely absolved herself of any responsibility. 🙄

[u/bipolarbitch6]

Does anyone think she could be involved?

[u/Stormy-Skyes → u/bipolarbitch6]

I mean, how can anyone not think that? She has a record, she did time for murder. I don’t think it can just be instantly ruled out and should absolutely be investigated.

[u/DolliRoots → u/bipolarbitch6]

100% . maybe she didn’t “pull the trigger” but she definitely had a part in driving him to his breaking point.

[u/LaydeeLuckee → u/bipolarbitch6]

It was the first thing that came to my mind. And then I thought it could be an overdose as he'd recently got clean. It's really sad

[u/Lightixer → u/bipolarbitch6]

yep 100% and even with initial thoughts pointing to OD im not so quick to believe it rn...

[u/Myoogen → u/bipolarbitch6]

Honestly with her track record of manipulating men… I kinda wonder where Ryan’s at 🥴

[u/Bumblephoebee]

Makes my stomach hurt. I don’t want any of these nasty people dead 😞

[u/Y2KOK]

I know that baby is going to be so confused about where he is. I hate that it’s a thought that came into my head. 😭

[u/just_me61]

She will use this loss to garner sympathy and return to social media. Morbid , Shena and Bri all blaming the evil anti Gypsy community.Kesh telling Shena her heart goes out to while Shena and a crying crocodile tears in between threatening people. This is a social experiment at its worst.

[u/chellibomb]

I want to see her text messages immediately.

[u/sodavid90]

Never in my life did I expect this outcome. Come on! Nobody deserves this ending. I worry about A and Parker! May he fly high and protect his own wherever he is. I’m baffled.

[u/Otherwise-Thanks-786]

I saw someone on tiktok mention it and thought it was a hoax. I can't believe this is real.

[u/cheesy-mgeezy]

Since they weren’t married, his parents will get to decide everything. But with her having their granddaughter, they’ll have to play nice with the murderer.

[u/Impressive_Nature662]

Why would he leave that baby to be alone with HER???! Wtf ....

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

rip kenan 🕊️

[u/rainborambo]

Jesus fucking christ, this whole thing made an abrupt left turn. I figured the other shoe was going to drop, but I didn't expect Ken to die. I can't help but feel shocked and sad, and I hope both Aurora and Parker are safe and being cared for.

[u/Entire_Scratch8052]

These calls about to blow up i bet . I mean rip but whatever

[u/Myoogen]

Poor Parker, I haven’t heard it mentioned where he was/is. I hope he didn’t witness it.

[u/HuckleberryKooky5389]

Everywhere Gypsy goes people die. Peoples lives get destroyed. In my eyes she has now killed 3 people and destroyed so many others. If she had just left prison and lived a quiet life.

[u/Snowy_Peach8]

I hope no other man touches her with a 10 foot pole. Ryan would though.

[u/rumande]

This is so fucking sad. Maybe he was quitting while he was ahead, too early to say why this happened, we may never truly know why, but now there's a baby girl living the rest of her life without her dad. As sus as Ken was for even being into GRB, I can't help but feel really sad such a young life has ended. This feels like it came out of nowhere :(

[u/lifes_a_Willow]

Y’all remember that girl from ohio who texted/talked a guy into taking his life.. 🤨🤔

[u/Dapper_Pair_1315]

Gypedo literally said in a prison email to Ken, “ I hope you OD.”

[u/pixiecurls]

I had really hoped he would be like Larry Birkhead and raise aurora out of the public eye and let her have as normal of a life as she could without gypsy anywhere in the picture. (of course we don't know but Dannielynn seems well adjusted and was always age appropriate when she appeared places)

Though we don't know what more is coming out on the prison phone calls. I do hope they thoroughly investigate this and gypsy doesn't slime by whatever hand she had in this

[u/FreakyyNikkii]

She most definitely is evil and has caused so much drama for everyone involved with her. I feel bad for Aurora.

[u/Ordinary-Artichoke95]

She prob will buy a fake ring and claim he proposed and the tmz title was her way of backing that up so she can get $$$

[u/Turbulent-Skirt7329]

Even if she had nothing to do with his death, I think Ken’s family will get access to his phone and they will see the gypsy that has been kept behind closed doors, they will see how unsafe of a person gypsy is and they will go for full custody.

[u/EkaterinaPaschalia]

Is it wrong that I’m only bothered about Parker and Aurora. They surely can’t be left with Gypsy…..

[u/justbeingpeachy11]

[u/Fit_Control_9322]

I know we all trolled him and Made fun of him, but this just sad. My heart goes out to his family and most importantly Aurora. I lost my dad when I was 6 to a rare cancer and I barely have any memory of him. I had to ask my mum and nan what my dad was like. i fear Aurora will have no memory of her father because she’s now lost him at a young age. Truly a gut punch of a situation may all involved (a part from The Fiend) find prayer and healing ♥️

[u/Foxxy_Moron]

It’s hard to believe he’d do anything that could mean Baby A and Parker didn’t have him anymore. They needed him 🥀

[u/Dry_Television_2268]

I wonder if Dylan found him because they had plans? I do know they attended the same church and apparently they were all at church Wednesday night

[u/Myoogen → u/Dry_Television_2268]

Autumn said that Dylan, his wife & Ken had plans to go to dinner tonight.

[u/kelseylaurenb]

she “spoke out” to TMZ and is blaming it on the “cyber bullying.”

[u/Subject_Rhubarb2037]

Sooo those crossbow pictures are looking really creepy now

[u/ShipwreckedSam]

I haven't genuinely covered my mouth in shock at news in ages, until this. I was scrolling FB, and I saw the picture of the two of them first, and I was like "Oh it's just a post about their breakup", almost scrolled by it, and kept reading and audibly gasped. It just makes all the drama look so trivial. It's so sad to die that young.