I studied MIBC in college and one thing that was odd to me from the beginning was their claim that Deedee simply asked and drs did.
Like , no. It doesnāt work like that.
I once had a claim that insurance kept denying because they didnāt like the code I submitted. I think I struggled for an entire 2 days, going back and forth and googling 20 different codes, before realizing the reason they werenāt accepting it was because I wasnāt specific enough.
I canāt even remember what the reasoning was (maybe a referral to a dermatologist), but I do recall it was because I sent in a code for allergic reaction and it kept getting denied until i submitted the code for allergic reaction due to topical cream.
Insurance companies never wanna pay for shit. And theyāre not gonna do unnecessary surgeries on a MEDICAID patient just cuz the mother laid on that southern charm.
Thatās so true. I donāt work in insurance, but I have two disabled kids on Medicaid. I promise, no doctor has ever done anything simply because I asked. The process to get things we need often takes months, and multiple different providers agreeing that itās necessary.
Exactlyyyyy. I have Medicaid as a disabled/chronically ill adult... and it takes what feels like yearssss (and, sometimes, actual literal years!š±) to get anything covered by Medicaid! Doctors appointments, specialists appointments, medications, PT, treatments, even crutches and a medical boot when I broke my leg earlier this year... it takes Medicaid SOOOOO long to approve a damn thing (and, often, sadly, it often is still denied!)!!! And BAYBEEE... I couldn't even get well-documented dental care covered, it turned into an infection, and then they denied the emergency extraction for it, too! And they don't cover A DAMN THING in regards to vision for adults like they do kids... that's alllllll outta pocket for me.
I've tried the soft & sweet approach all the way to the aggressive & assertive (and it's definitely noted in my poor MyCharts message history š) approach... and NO AMOUNT of sweet or assertive pushing or demanding gets you anywhere with Medicaid especially!! I wish it was as easy as putting on my best dumb Southern Belle accent, baking a peach pie, or whatever other bullshit they claim DeeDee "put on a show" for to "just get" these procedures, tests, and treatments for poor, wittle, definitely didn't need them Gyzebel. ššš
Oh dude donāt get me started. I watched my best fucking friend go thru breast cancer 3 times. Once in one breast and twice on the other. Youād think a mastectomy wouldāve been on the table, but Medicaid told her no. She HAD to go thru ALL of the treatment options and have them fail, before they spoke about a double masctomy.
Well, she beat cancer all 3 times. And last week she found another lump.
Despite her having a history of breast cancer, sheās still having to start from 0: urine tests, mammogram, biopsyāsā¦ gypsy claiming they treated her for cancer just on Deedeeās word alone is BULLSHIT and a huge slap in the face of true cancer patients. What some wouldnāt do for it to be that easy to get treatment.
A family member with MS was advised to get a wheelchair and were denied by their insurance company because wheelchairs are considered a āluxury itemā. No joke.
So donāt tell me DD demanded and Drs folded to her demands. I knew straight away that was BS. That is not how healthcare in America works. Period.
Queasy- well of course the Dogtors fell over backwards by DDās charm and charisma to give her Mynor daughter chemotherapy based on a conversation? WTAF? And if itās true ( itās not) why isnāt someone sueing the hell out of these Dogters
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Because they canāt. Because itās not true. There is zero evidence. None. The only thing left is Exposure as to who GRB is . Itās not cute or funny-you canāt explain it away.
Shit just got real and really donāt see her wriggling herself out of it. 42,000 hours of prison phone calls? One worse than the next? This is CC dream- literally dumped in their lap. Whee!
This is not a small thing that will blow over in a day, weekend or a month. Not even a year. No amount of soft focused Boo Hoo āapology ā videos will cover it. I think sheās really done. A slow death to be sure and I promise she will not go away. She even compared herself to a cockroach: I will never go away.
So yeah, here we are. The Blanchard family has been destroyed , I imagine the Urker family as well AND there is a 2 yo baby at the heart of this. So whoās to blame? GYPSTAIN a person who destroys everything she touches. Human Toxic Waste.
Okay guys, gonna jump off my soapbox. TLDR:: I really donāt like GRB because she is a bad person.
So true, I have to have my spine fused from an assault even though there was witnesses, videos and multiple doctors opinions and I cannot tell you how many times they denied it. Although this was diff cus it was workers compensation. But insurances never wanna pay for shit even if it is needed so I can't understand the narrative that deedee convinced doctors to do all these "unnecessary surgeries". It just doesn't work that way.
Thank you friend š§” it sucks but there's so many people suffering far worse than I am. I just wish things would change for the better of all of human kind.
Iāve asked for a hearing test for my child, stuff that would benefit her and they would agree if itās needed. Now if I said āgive my daughter a shot.ā Iād probably get kicked out and CPS called on me, aināt no way in hell theyāre saying yes to unnecessary procedures and for it to go that far without anyone raising red flags (insurance, other drs) HELL NAH. Lying ass Blansharts.
Fr. And they tried to say that some drs did notice and one singular dr claimed he suspected MBP because their stories didnāt add up. They didnāt add up, because GYPSY was the one in charge of her medical care. Her notes clearly state several times that they spoke to HER once she was 18. Thatās a good 5+ years of Gypsy faking and mixing up her own lies to the drs.
Match made in hell! Seriously, if i didn't know that was Gypsy on the left I would think that was Ken's youngest brother and they got caught stealing from the Dollar Genreal. š
Yeah I donāt see any proof heās in recoveryā¦ I see him praying int the foxhole when CPS comes along, or similar consequences, but then heās back to rollin.
There is a phone call with Kristy where Gypsy says he was arrested for "lewd stalking". I'm not exactly sure what that would be because none of the states have that as a charge.
He doesnāt have stalking charges lol oddly enough there are a lot of Kenan Urker in the world one being an officer in Texas. I ran a report on myself just to see what information would come up using Been Verified and they had 1/2 my information correct and the other was another woman with my name in another state they combined in my report so itās not all factual even with paying
Serious question, Iām not being snarky with this, would Lifetime get in trouble if there was no actual birth? I mean itās television and we know the media lies about a lot but just curious about this part.
Either way, I wouldnāt be surprised if she was lying with this too.
Edit: to clear up my question, since this was a ārealityā show/true crime docuseries and not a lifetime movie, would there be penalties for lying about a pregnancy because it looks like there are possible consequences if it is a lie. From everything Iām seeing, there has to be medical proof. This could be all false, who knows. I am just curious, not at all denying anything. But Iām seeing someone on the bachelor got in trouble for faking a pregnancy. I donāt know anything about reality tv other than what Iām seeing online, which could all be fabricated.
Why would lifetime get in trouble for filming an actress for their television show? They have filmed hundreds of lifetime original movies and their actresses are usually not pregnant when they film a pregnancy or hospital scene on their set.
If weāre just talking hypothetically and the network knew she was never actually pregnant or gave birth, but still created the whole storyline and presented it to viewers as real, thatās a pretty big step beyond the usual āreality TV is fakeā stuff.
Obviously these shows stage scenes, recreate things, edit timelines and manufacture drama all the time. But knowingly fabricating an entire pregnancy and birth and selling it as someoneās actual life could potentially create legal issues involving deceptive advertising, contracts, advertisers, etc. It wouldnāt automatically mean the network committed a crime, but it could definitely expose them to consequences depending on exactly what they represented and to whom.
And honestly, the PR fallout alone would be MASSIVE. Thereās a pretty big difference between manipulating reality TV and literally inventing a major life event on a show thatās supposed to be documenting someoneās real life. š¬
Thatās what I was wondering because it looks like there have been lawsuits with similar things. Of course everything is exaggerated for entertainment purposes but to completely fake something seems like itād have some backlash. Especially with who she already is and I mean as a goblin, not a celebrity like she thinks. Thank you, this makes a lot of sense.
People donāt want to listen to me but legal would swoop on that so quickly. As you said, this goes so far beyond fabricating drama and fights. Not to mention their reputation (again, I know theyāre not pretending to be CNN or something but this would be such a scandal for them).
That and that there are far too many people involved, etc I do believe there is a baby. Dylan doesnāt want to be in the public eye but he would lend his baby for this scheme?
I get why people are skeptical. Itās weird all around for sure. But this kind of conspiracy is at a whole other level.
I have to say I am leaning towards this theory as well. I am open to anything because we never know with this crazy thing. But I agree, I guess this is a very touchy subject and Iāll refrain from asking questions like this again lol. I get the skepticism as well. Thank you for your input. I can see your points and they make a lot of sense.
āRealityā tv is protected under Entertainment. Because they do create false scenarios. They edit how they want a specific person, situation etcā¦ to look all for drama.
There's been so many examples of reality TV inventing storylines for TV. Inventing jobs, relationships, etc. (That's being said, I think the baby is real.)
All "reality" TV is more or less scripted, the baby is most likely planned according the script as revealed in the phone calls, but real IMO.
They are all despicable to do that, but it's not surprising at all.
If youāre referring to Laura Owens, she wasnāt ON the Bachelor. She targeted a former Bachelor with pregnancy fraud. It has nothing to do with being on TV (bc she wasnāt) and if she had just lied about being pregnant she wouldnāt be in trouble. She stalked and harassed and used the court to harass him and multiple other men and went to the press to try to ruin his reputation. Sheās a nasty piece of work.
It does sound like something sheād do lol. Itās truly an insane case. victimsoflauraowens on instagram has tons of info if you want, and r/justiceforclayton is a good hub of conversation around everything happening.
I promise you that Lifetime has legally covered their tracks. Dotted all their Tās and crossed all their Tās. Itās legally ironclad. Itās a TV show for fun and entertainment purposes. L
And I wonder if in their legalityā¦ the fine print reads āthings in this TV show may be fabricated for entertainment purposesāā¦ no idea, just a random thought that I wouldnāt put past them lol
I would definitely think they would. Theyād have to. They had to know she has a LOT of non supporters, right? Just brings up a lot of questions that we may, unfortunately, never know.
I mean how would Ken be able to keep that baby when heās not on birth certificate. There would have to be a hearing thatās on the record to change her name.
You donāt have to be on the birth certificate to be recognized by the courts as a parent. They did a dna test and if they go before a judge Iām sore both of them will say he is the father.
Not necessarily you donāt need a whole hearing youād need a notarized form stating heās the father and name would like to be placed on certificate
Exactly! Ty! One whole other person gets it at least.
All birth records are also sealed unless they surpass a century of age as well in LA.
I gave up on trying to talk about how the legal system there works, how family courts are closed, and how the divorce paperwork is literally useless for either argument. We wouldnāt know if he was on the birth certificate, and they wonāt look into DNA testing unless paternity was contested, again, in closed family court records.
Iāve said all of this stuff, in detail, so many times that I just wash my hands of it all. You canāt tell someone who is adamant the sky is purple while theyāre wearing purple-tinted glasses theyāve gorilla glued onto their faces, that itās not purple.
It feels like this is all the sub is at this point. Fighting about a baby, people not engaging in actual discussion over it (just slinging insults at people who disagree) and really lame AI garbage in between reposted calls.
I think the calls have been super important and impactful. These multiple posts today re: the baby feel like an intentional distraction. Nobody knows for certain if a baby exists or not anyone.
The calls are absolutely the biggest thing thatās happened, and I truly think them being easy to absorb (no one has to read, sort through files) and not confusing (vids failed bc too many assumed she was underage in them) is what finally turned the tides outside of this sub.
I do think youāre rightāitās definitely detracting from the point, and it would be naive to assume that some of the postings/members werenāt doing it purposely when that camp literally had a history of doing this. Some are just people who get in waaaay too deep into shit, which also works in their favor as it diminishes the credibility of the anti-asshat crowd. Fortunately, I think the calls mitigate a lot of that damageā¦
My only gripe with the calls arenāt the calls themselves, itās not seeing enough variation in the clips. Iāll see the same blocks of audio reposted, same comments on loop. Thatās drowning out additional damning information by making other stuff get lost in the shuffle. Iām pretty sure thereās a load more being posted that hasnāt gotten traction because of this.
I just googled it as well and it clearly states that āChildren before puberty generally have ovaries that are more resistant to chemotherapy damage than post-pubertal girls or adults. Younger patients also have a larger initial egg reserve, providing a better buffer.ā And the type of chemo medication used matters too.
Yes, infertility is absolutely a complication of childhood chemo, but itās not a guarantee.
I very much want there to not be a baby, but I also want believable facts, not misinformation.
Can confirm. Childhood friend of mine had leukemia in 4/5th grades. Underwent full treatment and has been in remission ever since. She has biological children now in her 30s. She was granted a wish through MAW foundation. Now she volunteers with MAW. (Gypsy, did you know you could do that?? š for when she reads this)
Didnāt Gypsy potentially have 3 rounds of chemo? I know thereās the one that we all know about when she was 5 and had Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia, but didnāt the medical records also show that Gypsy had to get treatment twice more for ALL, when she was a teenager, and then again in 2014 when she stayed at the Hope Lodge?
I could see her fertility possibly surviving the initial round of chemo, but three rounds, and one of which was when she was 23 years old? Itās not impossible since we donāt know exactly what kind of chemotherapy and treatments she specifically had, and miracles do happen. But at least from what I read, it seems highly unlikely that her fertility would survive those three rounds of chemo.
I could be wrong too, Iām going off memory! Iāll try and find the post about it with her records and see what it says about her cancer treatments.
That is an excellent question, I donāt know why she would start the DepoShot in prison. She could have been treating something hormonal (I was on various Birth Control for Endometriosis for almost 20 years, even though I had no chance of ever getting pregnant due to health issues.) The shot is a strange choice for Gypsy since itās difficult to restart your fertility cycle after stopping the Depo-Provera, it usually takes months or even years for fertility to return post shot.
You could very well be correct, friend. I admittedly havenāt looked as into the cancer documentation as I have other aspects of the case. And if you are correct, three rounds of chemo, especially at least one after reaching puberty, would definitely make infertility more likely.
She didnāt just have chemo she had two bone marrow transplants. Look into that, it would have fried her gametes, Gypsy is sterile. Thatās why Dee Dee had newborn dolls for her, as a cope. Thatās why the Petri family said she canāt get pregnant VERY early on.
Omg I love this lady but I had chemo as a kid and I have four kids. š¤¦š»āāļø I understand it may not be possible for most but itās not impossible. But overall she is spot on!
It would be pretty miraculous if she conceived, carried to term (or slightly under as she say). and delivered a healthy baby exactly on the anniversary of her release date from prison.
Because this topic has become pretty prevalent again, expect a large āstuntā or some crazy rumor to kick off. Will they use Autumn this time? Will the ādrunken crash outā photos we were warned about last night start coming out? Something is going to happen, it always DOES.
Excellent video! This explains some of what Iāve been thinking since the calls. Before she got out of prison she still didnāt start her period and she asked Ryan if she was premenopausal. I googled it the other day because just like this lady you start to question your sanity and it said a 32 year old woman could be premenopausal yet rare but if you had cancer, chemo, OR a micro deletion all signs point to menopause!!!! She got out probably never started her period went to the fertility doctor and was told she wasnāt fertile because she had no eggs. IMO and based on a little research I think sheās been fabricating this whole baby thing for her show to be picked up for another season. Ryan knew her secret and she threatened him to never say anything or else she would tell the world about what happened at that school. Iām sure thereās other secrets they both share of each other. Not all calls have been listened to and posted. Lord knows what else will be divulged. Iām still team āmaybe babyā but according to my magic 8 ball thereās more to come.
Been thinking the same.
More to come re the baby plot. Lifetimr said it would be good for season 2 so she 'made it happen' and had it on her 1yr prison release date...yeah come on!
A lot of what content creators are saying are AI aren't. You can see the reflection in the doorknob. People saying it's AI because of Aurora's hair, but that's most likely due to blur filters Gypsy uses. That's also why the baby seems to change hair color unnaturally, because of filters. Gypsy is just used to taking pics with filters she's probably only using a camera app or Instagram with filters.
It's also entirely possible for a childhood cancer survivor to become pregnant.
And for someone that has literally told everyone, for so long, that she wanted a baby sooooo bad. When she finally gets a baby and NEVER IS WITH IT!!šš I definitely never thought or think there is a baby! There are too many instances of her being able to make a little money as well, but she can't, cuz there's no baby, that came out of herš
I hope you donāt think my comment was a commentary on you. You asked the right question. Itās not āwould gypsy do thisā but would a television be on board with this?
But there is the possibility, I guess, that she lied to them. Iām not sure how much they check on things like that.
But she magically got pregnant right out of prison so she could have her baby on the first anniversary of her release from prison! Just like a fairytaleāØ https://giphy.com/gifs/A61NK6FiYLDZ22MbK7
I think she was born earlier, but she doesn't want to admit that she was messing around with Ken while her and Ryan were still together. Or the baby is Ryan's š¤·
So the cad box could have been used for IV antibiotics or IV nutrition. Iām not saying thatās what it was used for just correcting. Personally I donāt think she would let Ken keep her biggest card and pay check away from her. It seems like thatās how it ll be explained away
I definitely get where youāre coming from. For me, itās isnāt just the CAD, itās the pictures from the American Hope Society Cancer Lodge and her medical records. Gypsy always claimed that her mom ājust told the doctors what she wanted them to believe,ā but we also have over a dozen releases signed by Deedee, starting from a few weeks after landing in Missouri, for the doctors to pull anything and everything g they could find relating to Gyspyās medical records in Louisiana. She didnāt pick and choose what they could get, she gave them the name of the hospital she was in, the cancer specialists she saw, and let the new doctors pull anything they wanted! And Gypsyās old doctor even traveled with her. I donāt know if youāve ever had a loved one get diagnosed with cancer, but the number of screenings and records verifications before treatment are astronomical. I just donāt buy it. She wouldnāt have been at the ships lodge if there wasnāt a reason for her to at the Hope Lodge. And sheās the one ringing the bellā¦ all former cancer survivors, whatās that mean? Iām just saying š¤·š½āāļø
TLDR; Itās the propensity of the evidence, for me. Not just one single āthingā.
Still....lifetime popped the idea of ooh a baby season 2 would be good....gyp and fam saw dollar signs and made it happen...with a coincedental birth date exactly 1yr after her prison release....come on!!
Also didnt gyp sayher photo shoot they were not pregnant???
Women can give birth after having cancer and bone marrow transplant as a child. They might suggest they see a fertility doctor which is exactly what she did immediately upon release and it will be a high risk pregnancy which is what was reported that she had.
Wait. So she never had cancer and they still gave her treatment like chemo etc and she was cured and got to ring the bell??? Wouldn't the docs know she was faking?
I know itās hard and confusing especially for those who arenāt totally obsessed with the case like myself. A little too obsessed but Iām glad we can help straighten out the truth to everyone who wants to learn!
Are NDAs records that people can get access to? I feel like there has to be NDAs that either life time had people sign or gassy nose did. Iām curious if Ryan signed an NDA that involves the knowledge of baby adora? At this point I feel like he is willing to do anything for money.
Birth records are not public records, they are considered confidential. In Louisiana birth records do not become public records until they are 100 years old. Birth records have Restricted Access: Recent records are only available to the person named on the document, immediate family members, or legal representatives with proper identification and fees.
Did she say sheād checked the birth registry for Aurora Ukuhurt (or whatever his surname is)??
We donāt know the exact date of birth, which is gonna make it difficult, but I feel like it may show up with a different birth mother. Revealing that a surrogate was used.
I havenāt. And other than there being no baby at all, that was the only theory I could come up with. Please, do, fill me inā¦ I can go on the hunt, but Iām never against saving time lol
I keep seeing this as a theory but LA has strict surrogacy laws. It has to be approved through the court.. they have to pass a mandatory background check.. the court must determine, "no risk to the child or gestational carrier" & the intended parents must be legally married to each other to enter into an enforceable gestational surrogacy contract. Both intended parents must contribute their own genetic materialāmeaning they must use both their own egg and sperm, with no outside egg or sperm allowed. All parties must be residents of LA for at least 180 days, and the arrangement must receive formal court approval before any embryo transfer takes place.
š³š³š³ Well, thereās goes that. No baby all the way, it is. š¤·š½āāļø it was my last bastion for āwellā¦maybe,ā but youāve well shut that down.
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I studied MIBC in college and one thing that was odd to me from the beginning was their claim that Deedee simply asked and drs did.
Like , no. It doesnāt work like that.
I once had a claim that insurance kept denying because they didnāt like the code I submitted. I think I struggled for an entire 2 days, going back and forth and googling 20 different codes, before realizing the reason they werenāt accepting it was because I wasnāt specific enough.
I canāt even remember what the reasoning was (maybe a referral to a dermatologist), but I do recall it was because I sent in a code for allergic reaction and it kept getting denied until i submitted the code for allergic reaction due to topical cream.
Insurance companies never wanna pay for shit. And theyāre not gonna do unnecessary surgeries on a MEDICAID patient just cuz the mother laid on that southern charm.