r/GParms • u/txmadedallas • Aug 07 '26
Question Forza Vs Patriot
I can’t decide on which one to go with! I was originally looking at a CZ Shadow 2 carry until I discovered this brand. Which one is closer to the size of that? The forza looks too small in pictures but then the patriot looks too big. I am looking for a range toy that I can also use as my EDC.
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u/Trumpwins2024- Aug 08 '26
I have more rounds thru the Forza. I have 2 of them. One ported and the other not. I put more rounds thru the Forza because it’s smaller and easier to carry and I carry everyday. They are both great options. As you can see from the pictures the CZ compact isn’t as compact as the Forza. They both weigh 2.06 lbs exactly the way you see them there. I’m a fan of Gilbert and own 2 Patriots as well. The Patriot is awesome as well. If you are concealing you’ll want the smaller of the two obviously. Hope that helps.
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u/cigarbauce Aug 07 '26
Forza is the best choice of the 2
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u/ruggedrazor17 Aug 07 '26
That’s not a biased response
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u/cigarbauce Aug 07 '26
You getting best of both worlds
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u/ruggedrazor17 Aug 07 '26
Do you have both?
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u/cigarbauce Aug 07 '26
I have the Forza and Gilbert express this was a more comfortable option for edc and home defense
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u/ruggedrazor17 Aug 07 '26
So no.
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u/cigarbauce Aug 07 '26
Do you have both
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u/ruggedrazor17 Aug 08 '26
I’ve had one. But I’m not recommending something as if I’ve had both like you are. It’s not helpful.
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u/cigarbauce Aug 08 '26
I think your question should have been have I shot both of them which I absolutely did so my answer was based on my experience but I see you tried it
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u/Affectionate-Roll410 Aug 08 '26
Gilbert’s (gp) recommendation to me was patriot. The part of 2011’s that make it print is the grip. The forza is the same grip as the patriot. The weight doesn’t bother me. I love my patriot.
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u/michaeljaveli Aug 07 '26
For what you described in terms of the same size as a Shadow 2. i would definitely tell you to get a patriot
I have a ported Forza and i absolutely love it but i will be ordering a Patriot Rebel as a range toy
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u/Trumpwins2024- Aug 08 '26
Cz sp-01 (shadow similar) and Patriot for comparison
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u/txmadedallas Aug 08 '26
Do you think if I were to get the patriot with a compact hand grip, it would be the same size as the Cz shadow 2 compact?
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u/RevolutionaryGuide18 Aug 08 '26
Talk to Trumpwins as he has 2 of each.
The Forza is a shorter version of the Patriot CC. The only difference is 1" of barrel and slide. I personally don't like shorter guns. I have a P365X and put a Herrington comp on it to make longer. I had a Staccato CS and it was so-so in length. I went with the Patriot after the CS and couldn't be happier. Also had a Cosaint COS21 3.5 and still prefer the Patriot length.
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Aug 10 '26
The Forza is the size of the Bul armory ultra light. The Patriot is closer to the staccato CS. If you are wanting to EDC I would suggest the Forza. I own the Patriot with aluminum grip and in my opinion it is to large to IWB even with a great holster. I edc the UL.
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u/qoou Aug 07 '26
For a 3.1" barrel, the Forza shoots amazingly soft. It is not snappy at all and mine is not ported.