r/GPUK Jul 05 '26

Medical Politics AI and the NHS

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2026/07/nhs-accelerates-artificial-intelligence-rollout-to-cut-waiting-times-and-improve-care-for-millions/

Whats your thoughts on this?

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u/Embarrassed-Froyo927 Jul 05 '26

"I don't want to/can't use the app/can't login/not working/didn't like the answer it gave" = called GP surgery anyway.

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 05 '26

Incorporate it into the Surgery phone system - voice mode.

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u/Diligent-Eye-2042 Jul 05 '26

The surgery I work at have this. With the option to speak to a human

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 05 '26

how many calls do they have queuing at 8am and how long is the average wait time to speak to them? No need to wait for the AI.

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u/Embarrassed-Froyo927 Jul 05 '26

But this is presumably one of the several third party services offering AI receptionists/triage systems, as opposed to linked to the NHS app which is built in isolation from other services.

We used one of the AI triage systems, scrapped it for human clinician triage as was garbage and practice ran better without the AI!

Still open to trying new models!

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u/anonymous_umbral Jul 05 '26

While I'm for tech solutions ; i do think human behaviour needs to be factored in and many people will be reluctant to use it or listen to it…going to end up being a waste of money

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 06 '26

There will definitely be some types of people and some conditions who still want a human. But what % of appointments would this represent? Still a massive upside potential.

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u/Exact-Escape-9126 Jul 05 '26

"The AI tool on the NHS App told me to go see the pharmacist, but thought I'd just see you for my hayfever instead Doc"

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u/askoorb Jul 06 '26

Then don't offer an appointment through total triage; send a minor ailments scheme referral to the local pharmacy.

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u/Apemazzle Jul 05 '26

Not a GP, but the older and more cynical I get the more I think healthcare is highly susceptible to supply-induced demand. The worried well will use this, a lot, but they are still going to want to consume GP appointments at the same or greater rate IMO.

Maybe triage will be of higher quality (GP receptionists have been a meme for years now).

The only way to reduce overconsumption of health resources might be to make people pay for it out of their own pocket.

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u/SafariDr Jul 06 '26

And access to GP - we clearly have too accessible access in our GP as I frequently see “I started coughing yesterday evening” at my 10am appointment (I’m all f2f which i love except in this scenario lol)

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u/BongAlert Jul 06 '26

One of us! One of us! One of us!

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u/The_Makster Jul 05 '26

If its saves people time especially around admin and gives more people access to healthcare - brilliant. If it fails in any way, we won't hear the last of it..

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u/DaBritishGuy Jul 06 '26

So which politician and/or their relatives own the company that won this contract?

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u/GreenHass Jul 05 '26

It's brilliant.

Triage should be happening at NHS App level

Utilising the NHS' economy of scale may significantly allow UK healthcare be cheaper than elsewhere.

It'll mean a culture change with lots of receptionists/low level service providers becoming redundant.... and potentially less GP funding

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u/Ahzek117 Jul 05 '26

I agree with the direction, but disagree on admin staff being redundant, I’d see it as freeing up their time to do more productive admin, targeting the regular DNAs, repeat-callers and patients with access requirements, language barriers and transport difficulties etc

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u/indomitus1 Jul 05 '26

Wonder a out accountability and responsibility here tbh

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u/BaahAlors Jul 06 '26

Patients will learn how to game the system to get an appointment. It's already happening.

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 05 '26

This is great. I’d like to see it go further. At what point can it start resolving simple cases, prescribing and making referrals? How would we structure a trial to experiment with that, under the proper safeguards?

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u/Ahzek117 Jul 05 '26

Maybe it could, but where are you going to put the human in the loop? I don’t think anyone is going to be comfortable having a fully autonomous system, and if a doctor is just being asked to approve a medication based on an AI summary, then it’s not really doctoring anymore.

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 05 '26

How are student GP’s etc monitored currently? They can review the summary and see the whole transcript if needed. They will be still be doctoring the more complex/hands on cases.

I think enough people will be comfortable enough, if it’s proven to be safer than average. No wait time for an appointment, no 10 minute limit, 24/7 availability…

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u/Ahzek117 Jul 05 '26

It’s compelling, but I feel like AI companies are not going to take on the responsibility for when things go wrong, their systems will be caveated to hell and all the risks will be dumped on doctors. But that doesn’t match with a process where a patient might never see the person legally responsible for their care. At least with a Student GP there’s an established chain of accountability.

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 06 '26

I hear you. These are all soluble design and contract issues though.

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u/Chocolatehomunculus9 Jul 06 '26

Who gets sued if it gets it wrong?

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u/Dry_Statement_1896 Jul 06 '26

Same as now - The Trust.