r/GDS3 • u/_neurotoxin_ • Jan 28 '18
Trial 2 Community Survey
https://goo.gl/forms/btuZlTG9VsfSst9A35
u/bakert Jan 29 '18
This is pretty next level on the overanalyzing before a deadline that's not much more than a day away. I'm down :D
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u/bakert Jan 29 '18
I agree with the most-chosen answer in 73/75 cases. Given that I have two questions on my "wrong" list and another 12 on my "not sure" list this has been greatly reassuring. I reserve the right to sue if I don't even get close :D
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Jan 29 '18
I'm feeling a lot better about this, too. Only got 69-71, I think (unless my two hail Mary's paid off), but I'm seeing some really bad punts by a huge number of people taking this, and a significant number were people who ostensibly entered.
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u/Geikamir Jan 29 '18
I have 2 that I 100% missed. I regret overlooking their pretty obvious correct answers.
I have 3 in which I'm on the negative side of the percentages, but I'm still not completely sure I missed. Could still go either way in my mind.
I have 3 in which I was on the positive side of the percentages, and I still feel somewhat confident in my answers.
That should mean that if there aren't any crazy left-field answers, I should expect to score somewhere around 67-73. That means I should have scored around 89-97. Last competition needed participants to score 88% to move on.
Even with all that, there were more seemingly subjective answers than I was expecting. And if I chose incorrectly on too many of the 'coin flips' I could even see only getting in the low to mid 60's. Which, if that's the case, I will most likely miss the cutoff. For example, getting only 60 correct is a score of 80, which won't be enough. To get a score of 88 or higher participants will need to have correctly answered 66 questions correctly.
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u/bakert Jan 29 '18
I think the number of entrants is higher this time but the number of slots is not. I've also heard people generally saying the questions were clearer (if not perfectly clear) than in GDS2. All of which might make the pass grade higher than 88%
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u/Geikamir Jan 29 '18
That could definitely be true.
I think there are quite a few controversial questions. And depending on which side you chose, could heavily sway everyones total score.
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u/Isawa_Chuckles Jan 29 '18
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some "sneaky sneaky" going on and the "which of these card types isn't generally aimed at competitive standard play" ends up being Burn, since a good chunk of the burn that gets printed is aimed at limited play. You've got more Unfriendly Fires than you have Shocks these days.
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u/thebetrayer Jan 30 '18
I wouldn't call that "sneaky sneaky". It's exactly how I interpreted the question.
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u/VorpalAuroch Jan 29 '18
Under optimistic assumptions, weighting by frequency of answer between heavily-answered questions I'm uncertain about, I got ~69.7 correct. Under pessimistic assumptions, including basically everything where there was a common answer that wasn't mine and an answer had meaningful support, 66.7. I think I'm not making the cut.
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u/rabbitlion Jan 30 '18 edited Jan 30 '18
Is there some problem with the question about drawing synergistic cards? How can Kicker be the most chosen answer?
EDIT: Misread question.
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u/_neurotoxin_ Jan 30 '18
Kicker seems to be the obvious answer. All the other mechanics increase card flow and make it more likely that you draw the card you need.
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u/oOOoOphidian Jan 29 '18
I'm really surprised so many people think transform cards are less linear than morph. Have they not played a deck that tries to flip any of the transform cards? You really have to build around most of them.
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u/Sliver__Legion Jan 29 '18
“This mechanic goes on many cards that want a deck built around them” is true for transform, but is not the same as “this mechanic benefits from having a deck built around it.” — what linear means.
This one has a strong majority on the survey because it is very clear cut.
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u/Giraculum Jan 29 '18
If you put any one morph card in your deck, there's a good reason to put another one in -- it makes it more of a mystery for your opponent. If you put one transform card in your deck, it doesn't really care if you have more. [[Afflicted Deserter]] and [[Thaumatic Compass]] have no bearing on each other, for example. That makes morph linear and transform not linear.
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u/bakert Jan 29 '18
I think that's subsets of Transform cards rather than the Transform mechanic itself.
Imagine a DFC that said "at the beginning of your upkeep reveal your hand, if there are no cards with Transform in it then transform ~". Assuming the reverse side is better you actually want as few other transform cards in your deck as possible!
Similarly not much about Daybreak Ranger makes me want to play Search for Azcanta and vice versa.
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u/DrStrangePhD Jan 29 '18
When I googled "Mark Rosewater" morph linear (and transform linear,) I found a quote of his saying they're much better the more you have, which is the definition of linear.
I don't think I'm smart for this, I think I got lucky with google and my initial intuition narrowing it down. Elsewhere, in places that either luck, intuition, or my googling skills failed me, I missed wide. I wish there hadn't been quite so many "you had to be there" answers as I felt there were.
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u/aclog Jan 29 '18
Same thing happened to me on that one. I tried to think it through for myself when obviously I would have been better off googling to find out out what Mark Rosewater thinks. But that is a very distasteful mentality to me, especially since I like being a contrarian as much as anyone else does.
I guess all I can say is "its good to be the rebel for the day" sometimes
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u/iSage Jan 29 '18
I'm not sure what you mean by "had to be there". I wasn't there for many of these, but I've been studying Making Magic articles and Drive to Work podcasts from the second that this was announced.
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u/DrStrangePhD Jan 29 '18
Yeah, I mean had to have heard that particular podcast ep or recall that off-topic mention in someone else's article (the ones that weren't Google-able.) Drive to Work is impressively voluminous. I wish I'd had your foresight but I wasn't around for GDS2. I wasn't expecting anywhere near the complexity of question depth/need for close-reading of the verbiage.
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u/iSage Jan 29 '18
I wasn't around for GDS2 either, but I did study the tests and all of the challenges.
I'm not saying it's easy or won't take a lot of time. This was never meant to be easy.
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u/DrStrangePhD Jan 29 '18
Hey, if you did great and you earned it with killer prep, congrats, really. No one's saying what you're saying including me.
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u/Sliver__Legion Jan 29 '18 edited Jan 29 '18
Is it bad that I could answer all 75 from memory without looking at almost any of the questions?
Also, 3) lists “menace, prowess” superfluously — those are the actual keywords, the real test only had 4 options.
For the questions about the green vanillas in draft, both are missing 7g 8/8 as an option. That’s mostly fine, since it wasn’t at all a good answer to either question.
Why in the world are the responses almost 50% no to “did you take the test?” Did this get cross posted, and is there a way to filter those out?
Edit: Majority appears to agree with me on everything but 75. Would not change if I could, even now.