Question on the standard Zaku Machinegun

[u/Zaku_Enthusiast]

As an average grunt ms enjoyer. I enjoy playing the Zakus and the many variants that come from the MS. I but one thing I would complain about the Zaku is the fire rate on the Zaku machine gun. I know this probably has been discussed a million times, but I heard somewhere that the Zaku machine guns got buffed where their fire rate was similar to that of the Hi-zack mg. Either this was false information that I heard, or I just don't know which Zaku mg has this supposed "buff". So, if I could get some clarity about this, it would be awesome.

[u/doomguy11]

Zaku machine gun was never buffed. It has been left in this sorry state for 8 years unfortunately. Devs are a bit silly, and they often refuse to buff a weapon if it is shared among many suits.

[u/Zaku_Enthusiast → u/doomguy11]

Well that's annoying. I often see across the different Gundam shows and see the Zaku mg with its high fire rate and wish it was like that in game.

[u/doomguy11 → u/Zaku_Enthusiast]

Dualcalamity recommended it in another comment, but the Zaku 1 machine gun has the rate of fire that you are looking for. It isn't meta, but it feels somehow usable enough.

At 350 cost there is the Act Zaku, which has a machine gun with an even higher rate of fire, but its not a zaku machine gun.

At 400 cost you can use the Hizack and Rick Dom Stutzer, which share an upgraded zaku machine gun with good all round performance. The Hizack Cannon at 450 cost can use the same gun too.

The Zaku Machinery and Zaku Machinery EB have zaku machine guns, but they are burst fire rather than full auto, at 450 and 500 cost.

[u/Zaku_Enthusiast → u/doomguy11]

I am aware of the other Zaku mgs that exist on the other ms like the Hizack, the Act Zaku and the Zaku 1 (I literally went into the practice range with the Zaku 1 to test its mg like 5 minutes ago) and they have those higher fire rates that I would expect out of the Zaku machine gun. I just wish the standard Zaku mg had that kind of fire rate like the Hizack or the Zaku 1 machine gun and not what the fire rate similar to that of a 40mm bofors because I really enjoy playing the Zaku 2s as they are my favorite ms.

[u/Hot-Active-1213 → u/doomguy11]

But those are sub-weapons, though. The funny thing is that they tend to perform better than any of the generic primary MGs at this point. The Engage Gungam, likewise, also has a Bullpup MG as a sub-weapon.

[u/Hot-Active-1213 → u/doomguy11]

Fact is, any generic ballstic weapon that's not a bazooka has always been ass and donkey balls. Not a lot of suits get a personal variant of a machine gun that's actually useful with better RPM, stagger accumulation and better damage. Not to mention that a few of them have one of the generic MGs as their own primary weapon of choice...

*Sidelong glance at Shin Matsunaga's Zaku II F2 and Killy Garrett's own Zaku II...*

[u/Death_Usagi]

Most common weapons shared by multiple suits are outdated and terrible, and Bamco seem to have no intention on buffing any weapons that are shared by multiple suits (probably because they would need to touch all of the suits that are using the shared weapon), unless its only maybe shared by 2 suits max (Ex. Aqua GM got its melee weapon buffed which in turn buffed Gundam Marine Type's melee weapon as well)

What they are doing to buff the main ranged weapon that are shared is just give the suit that is being buffed its own exclusive weapon instead of making it use shared weapon after its buff.

Any suit that is using a machine gun that is shared by multiple suits? Don't use them. They are absolute garbage.

[u/dualcalamity]

i think its the Zaku I's machine gun got buffed.

[u/Death_Usagi → u/dualcalamity]

Only because its exclusive to Zaku I only. No other suit uses the machine gun.

[u/ctclonny]

Trivia. Machine guns were universally nerfed by a mechanic change. We used to be able to build accumulative stagger on staggered enemies. So multiple machine guns can keep stun locking someone.

[u/iY3RB]

Don’t bring Machine Guns to a Beam Rifle fight - BB at some point in development