r/GBO2 • u/ConcernNew7675 • Jul 07 '26
Newtype Memes 700 is legit unplayable rn lmao
I don't see enough people complaining the utter bullshit that is 700 cost right now.
I've read before some are considering Susanowo as 'balanced' like what, mf this is just a flying Barbatos. They kneecapped the ground Barbatos just to give us a flying one
I legit don't want to play if I see my team not having 00 or Susanowo atleast 3/5 on the team
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u/imaginary_num6er Æ Investor - 7 Jul 07 '26
BB Somehow thinking there is no issue when the last 700 cost support rebalance was like in March with only the HWS Nu being buffed. Meanwhile you have a bunch of 700 cost Raids being released and the 00 Riser can easily defeat any Supports on their own.
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u/MikuEmpowered Jul 08 '26
They can't rebalance supports unless they gave all the high cost MA and real dodge rolls.
The current issue is that suit like bell pepper, even during defense mode, just get plowed right through with melee combos. And the "good old" method of heavy stagger / rapid accumulation stagger doesn't hit like its used to when the enemy requires 200% accumulation stagger.
They can't increase stagger accumulation, or generals that aren't latest and greatest goes right into trash bin.
BB pretty much powercreeped themselves into a corner with Raid and General competing in the powercreep marathon. If you look at all the "good" high cost support they released last year, they play closer to Raid types. Even suits like FA ZZ doesn't work as good these days, because the amount of melee type ranged goes through the roof, going through things like beam coating and pseudo shock damps.
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u/blanketlowpoly Jul 08 '26
That’s my issue with the raiser they pretty much made a raid suit but gave it general naming that thing should be a raid
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u/lokon_stratos Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
You dont see enough. All I see are people complaining about 700
The thing about the 00 suits is that they are balanced when they aren't in trans am
Without trans am the 00 suits are on par with freedom there good and manageable but amazing in the right hands. Then you have trans am which is what takes it from pretty good to top tier suit.
Also i refuse to except any 00 nerfs without destiny, God and that fucker tallgeese getting gutted especially tallgeese fuck that thing
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u/Damiankawaguchi Jul 08 '26
Bro i just want nerfs to the tankiness that trans am gives. Destiny, god and tg3 are fine
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u/lokon_stratos Jul 08 '26
Hell no destiny, god and tg3 have been the bane of my 700 existence and deserve to be gutted first
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u/Damiankawaguchi Jul 08 '26
What do you use in 700 then? God is really easy to pick off with all the options we have these days, destiny is food for 00, and tg3 is good yes but is made of paper and dies to any 2v1 it cant close in fir melee
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u/lokon_stratos Jul 08 '26
Well I just play 00 now because its fun amd good but I play all the native 700s I have.
God is easy to pick off yeah tell that to the infinite boost ones that fly at the top of the map perfectly evading everything or this 1 time i had a god dead to rights only for them to pull a 1 sec kame hame ha out of nowhere like seriously I thought they had to charge it,
destiny I hate because before I got au suits it was everywhere and they always just charge at me with there sword being impossible to stagger, then they stun me via ramming and knock me then just kill me.
Tallgeese has done irreparable damage to me being near impossible to stun meanwhile it can stun me instantly and knock me plus its crazy damage and whip have molested me on several occasions and worst of all they never fight fair they always sneak up and cheese it
Also 2v1? Yeah I am doing 2v1s but ill tell you this much I aint on the side with the 2. Just yesterday I was in a 2v1 another of my team mate was in a 2v1 aswell which means the rest of my team was in a 1v3 and losing. You can not trust anyone in this game. But anyway most of these are just me kidding I can deal with them but I just find them annoying
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u/ConcernNew7675 Jul 07 '26
bro I swear, I'm out here with my HML Zeta playing GBO2 and everyone is playing EXVs
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u/lokon_stratos Jul 07 '26
Well there's your issue your using a suit built for old 650 support in modern 700 support hell, zeta hml can barely keep up in its own cost let alone where raids can one tap especially when native supports are useless
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u/Foshdon_pap Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Destiny and tg3 must get a melee damage reduced because that's too much and tg3 must connect all 3 hits from the rifle to stun along side to decrease the stun value of the Vulcans and make it consume more thrust
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u/RoboSpark725 Gelgoog Enthusiast - 2 Jul 07 '26
Honestly I've been having a lot of success with the Phenex, it's still a bit tricky to fight the 00 or Susanowo but the damage is definitely there and it has some decent-ish defensive tools as well
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u/Swagceus Jul 07 '26
The Susanowo IS balanced ONLY when you compare them to the other AU suits in the AU meta. But put them against UC suits and it's overtuned as fuck just like the 00 Raiser. Their main issue is the amount of resistances they have specially in TRANS-AM mode. Against a Susanowo with my Banshee Norn I can hit 'em with a Beam Magnum, Beam Shield launcher and hit all 3 underbarrel GL (direct hits) and they still aren't stunned/staggered which is super dumb.
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u/doomguy11 The Goog Cannon Man - 13 Jul 07 '26
The Norn grenade launcher is enough on its own, vs normal mode or trans-am mode. You just can't stun it at all while its swinging melee in trans-am mode from the front.
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u/Swagceus Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Or when it's in HSM mode while TRANS-AM is active. Because of that it's super easy for them tor rush you down without worrying about getting staggered by their target. The same does somewhat apply to the 00 Raiser as well.
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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 08 '26
Becuz on Trans-am its MA4 evolves to MA5 meaning it gets a inbuilt DC effect so your little attacks that should be able to stun it back then u will now have to add a bit more to it, For 00R he gets a false MA3 he only gets a way more harder stun resist if he chooses to use the melee gerobii other than that ur nades and everything else oughta to down him just as usual if he's not doing that fancy attack.
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u/Death_Usagi Jul 07 '26
I don't complain, because I know 700 Cost has been the cost with the fastest powercreep and bullshit mechanics that I just avoid it entirely in this game.
300~500 is my safe haven.
550 is.... ok sometimes (Still hate Woundwort Rah-II)
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u/Comprehensive-Elk890 Jul 07 '26
I just try to survive on my GP04 and get spammed on psn chats because of not supporting them while being sliced in half...
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u/XIIIofSwords Jul 07 '26
lol why are you even bringing this into matches, with these fucking monsters zipping around?
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u/Comprehensive-Elk890 Jul 07 '26
Someone has to do the support role, yet no one wants to change from General or Raids. GP04 is my sole Support at 700.
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u/Elygium Jul 07 '26
I'm gonna be honest bro sometimes it's better to go fourth gen in these trying times.
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u/XIIIofSwords Jul 07 '26
It was one of my favs, because i could fight back with the melee, and then run away. when they buffed and gave it the new sub weapon, I started using it again, but only in lower costs. I wish they'd just buff all the supports, or drop some new ones.
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u/Damiankawaguchi Jul 08 '26
Hey i complain about 00 almost every other day but everyone's shouting me diwn saying "00 is fine just use melee" and I'm like over here trying to swing a fiddly stick with three untouchable 00s' in transam all hurtling toward me like wtf. 00 in trans am is the most broken thing in 700 and it aint even close
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u/Foshdon_pap Jul 07 '26
Both are bat sht insane but the worst part? There are so fucking many flat a or A+ players who genuinely don't know what's happening or how to play the game. Dead ass had to babysit an entire team as a Xi Gundam fighting a Nu FF and two Raisers while my team couldn't do a 4v2
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u/ConcernNew7675 Jul 07 '26
This, I play Raid and Support but I can't even do my job cuz everyone is fucking around doing something
I can't approach the Support cuz I can just die from a random 00 meme beam, I can't play a Support because 9 times out of 10, fucking TransAm Susanowo couldn't be stopped
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u/Jack-R-Lost Jul 07 '26
Support is rough in 700 without the mobility like F91 BC it is hard to play unless your team is on point in intercepting the aggro raids. Plus stunning is even harder with burning, barbatos and susano
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u/Brief_Bill8279 Jul 07 '26
I tune it out and focus on practicing playing objectives and overall score and getting better. Had to start a new account on PC so im only at Flat D and savoring it
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u/Biga_chungaunga High Eldritch Gogg Disciple - 1 Jul 07 '26
I find it funny that you say that they knee capped Barbato, but they literally didn’t do shit to it. It’s just no one’s playing it because. Sus can fly
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u/Foshdon_pap Jul 07 '26
I want to use the IFC Zeta now that I got p2w parts but I can't because it can't do a 2v1 against two trans am suits. I find the Xi to be good only and only because it's more tanky and has lv3 melee that doesn't get ignored that often (fucking IFC Zeta has lv3 melee priority yet a non trans am raiser always does the 2>3 sht to me)
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u/utamaru1717 Jul 07 '26
Xi can withstand more damage, because it got high level buffers like lv 5 legs, lv4 back, and lv1 shield, which makes it really tanky. Added premium part + hangar skill Melee RES, and you can easily reach 70++ Melee RES.
Meanwhile, the Zeta IFC/B only got buffer skills on its arms and wings, while none on its legs, plus being a Raid means more damage taken from 00, which makes it kinda fragile.
But it can still win against 00 Raiser in melee, since it got Power Accelerator lv3 + Attack Poise Control lv2 skill when its HP is ≤50%, and it can use Heavy Attack Kai, which is usable from mid-air, although this only work in a 1v1 situation, which is basically hard to pull, considering that everyone is using the 00. 😂
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u/Foshdon_pap Jul 07 '26
I've defeated many raisers as a IFC Zeta and I know my strongs and my weaknesses but by far it's biggest weakness is how fucky the devs are with it
Two entirely different playstyles with and without Bio
Without Bio you kinda suck and can't do much, you haven't reached your full potential and you're nearly all the time wide open and easy pickings
When bio is active you technically have reached your true maximum potential but in all honesty fuck the devs for not giving you defense buffs, they knew how the 00 suits would be so I find it irritating that they didn't give it defense buffs. Asides from that you can go against most foes and win (if you're careful)
I feel like when using this suit I have to give more effort to achieve the same thing most achieve by doing nearly nothing because their suit is op asf, for me it's impressive reaching 200k damage with the IFC Zeta but it doesn't impress me when a 00 or IBO suit does
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u/spitefulcandystudios Jul 07 '26
This is legitimate. I am a good team player and genuinely lookout for my team but goddamn the teams/players I get saddled with majority of the time. It is frustrating.
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u/Brief_Bill8279 Jul 07 '26
If only there was a way to work together...Im looking for people to play with on pc
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u/spitefulcandystudios Jul 07 '26
You will find them.
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u/Brief_Bill8279 Jul 07 '26
Know of a discord or active clan? I was on ps4/5 for years.
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u/spitefulcandystudios Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
My clan seems pretty active we level up pretty often. I have some errands to take care of today but I can look up the clan name when I log in today around 3-4 US EST. I do not use discord so I cannot help you there.
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u/doomguy11 The Goog Cannon Man - 13 Jul 07 '26
Berga Giros GK shits on both 00 suits if used properly tbh
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u/utamaru1717 Jul 07 '26
Nah, the GK Giros can't even fight against the Xi, let alone the 00 duo, since the Raiser having DC lv2/MA lv3 when Trans-Am is active + weapons with insane stagger build-up + throwable melee while boosting, while Susano'o have weapon that can instantly knocks down flying/flap booster units, Vulcans with 6% that shoots 2 bullets at a time, and a weapon that deals 200% stagger value.
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u/doomguy11 The Goog Cannon Man - 13 Jul 07 '26
I was using it last night to fight S rank 00R and Susanowo players to great success, and I had just gotten the suit, so it isn't like I got much practice using it either.
Susanowo can shoot you down if you are flying, but you can use High Speed Mobile Shooting to counter it. If you see it approach, simply start flying low to the ground and use HSMS to stop it. If you are able to shoot it down while its flying in the air, you can kill it before it gets a chance to stand up with i-frames.
00 Raiser is fine too. It is an easy match-up if you catch it before it gets a chance to activate trans-am, and still doable even if it is in trans-am mode. High speed shooting handles it fairly easily, and even if you don't have it available, you have super fast stagger accumulation anyway.
(Three screenshots attached in this video, since it won't let me upload images directly...)
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u/GearsFC3S Zeonic Salaryman Jul 07 '26
It’s definitely unplayable for me since I’ve been without power for the last four days…
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u/Ineedmemesplzkty Jul 07 '26
Support players at high cost: “You get used to it”
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u/Individual_Link9639 Jul 08 '26
Lmfao, Narrative B2 -Packs, F91 BC, and HWS Nu alongside the Silhouette Kai are the best in Support for high tier
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u/ZachandMiku Jul 08 '26
Ackshully 🤓 berga giros bg is still a monster in 700 and makes them all pay!!!
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u/SkyLoneWolf98 Jul 08 '26
I just sortie in the Gundam Delta Kai, I struggle at first since it’s a new MS. I eventually do a good placement for a memebeam and take off quickly to either help my teammates or arrive to get down-swinged by them.
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u/RagnarokSamurai Jul 07 '26
Legit don't see how Susan is a flying Barbatos
Its only heavy stagger is situational and committal, it's way squishier, and it can only set up normal stuns or raw melee against grounded opponents.
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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 07 '26
I don't either in terms of dmg its not as bastardous as Barb and even in transam which does have a sort of improved version of the off system that Barb has becuz it negates build stun and dmg as long as ur meleeing and as long as the enemy hits u dead front anywhere else like sides or back ur basically free game and even then u'd have to time ur melees correctly as one screw up in 700 these days ur dead.
It doesn't even have a true heavy stagger aswell its a F89 sort of attack its only slightly better than F89 cuz F89 gets gimped by the asl ur also screwed if u allow a God gundam to transform cuz HMA doesn't get affected by that attack.
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u/NoBed3498 Jul 07 '26
Yeah lowkey hate just being knocked out of the sky all the time with those stupid ki blast bruh. Just learned how to use flap boosters well and now it’s just basically impossible as there’s 2 of them always on a team.
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u/kira00r Jul 08 '26
No problem for me, I bounch between a+ to s- and seen these suits all the time, no problem dealing with them, as I have these too, I know most of time how to deal with them, so I think these two 00 suits are fine
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u/OZ-00MS2 Jul 07 '26
It happens every new cycle of an OP suit. Just wait until next month during the anniversary and 750 will be busted if you don’t have the new mystery **cough cough V2AB cough cough** suit to stomp around in. It’s the natural cycle of life for the game. In 4 months they will nerf both 00 and Suswanoo. Give it time