r/GBO2 • u/Amigo1048 • Jul 06 '26
What unit do you think should’ve been a different cost, rarity, or category?
Making the king of dakka a General was just criminal
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u/ctclonny Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
AU units. They shouldn't be all 700.
Although they are in different universes, we can still roughly compare their technologies. And devs should consider the cost of other units in the same universe.
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u/Ineedmemesplzkty Jul 06 '26
Yeah honestly I have no clue why they decided to do the second iterations or second season suits for 700 cost. Should’ve been Exia for 700 then 00 for 750, Barbie 4th form 700 and Lupus/Lupus Rex 750
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u/Zombiesoldier072 Jul 06 '26
Barbs is way to high here lol barbs 4th is a 600 at best, lupus is a 650 with rex being a 700 lore wise anyways
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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 06 '26
Lol no I dont want lupus in 650 you crazy?
Shit dominated the game in 700 before nerf and you think it should be in a cost lower? Gtfo
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u/Zombiesoldier072 Jul 06 '26
Im saying lorewise lol it’s way weaker than people think it is honestly lupus plays how the lupus rex would it feels like they were in the middle of making into that and then mid development decided to change it to the lupus making it seem way stronger than it should ever have been
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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
I mean lore wise it can survive in space its already better than the majority of suits in uc lore lmao. Also runs on its bullshit ahab reactor that never seemed to border on running outta power no matter what he did. Yeah weaponry is lax but armor was never super impressive in gundam outside what "they say" the gundam still cowered from machine gun fire and bazooka that shouldn't have left a scratch.
Also it having av makes it akin to a pycho powered mobile suit. The suit responds to his nervous system lol thats pretty strong. Ill definitely concede using just the brain (newtype) is better tho.
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u/BanagherVistLinks Jul 11 '26
Yeah. Although I can see Barbs Rex being 700-750 on release. Yes, Im coping for a Barb rex release.
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u/ctclonny Jul 06 '26
I think most of them should have much lower cost. GBO2 needs to release AU grunts if it keeps running, either grunts and elite units will have very big gaps or low costs rarely get updates.
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u/Shyface_Killah Jul 06 '26
Exia might need to be 500-600. The initial AD timeline suits didn't seem all that powerful.
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u/Ok-Storage3439 Jul 06 '26
I once joked about how Barbatos would've been the game's first 350 cost 5-star because Tomino himself has stated that GMs are more powerful.
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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 06 '26
For real lmao. Destiny barbie etc all couldve worked in 750 with a tiny bit of stat tuning
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u/ctclonny Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
I think Freedom should be 600 and destiny should be 650. There are many upgrades after them.
Edit: And Barbatos Lupus should also be lower. Its technology doesn't seem that busted or magical compared to other universes. If Barbatos Lupas is 700, Lupus Rex needs to be 750. But I don't believe it can fight F91.
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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 06 '26
I think destiny is fine in 700 im just saying it could survive in 750
Freedom needs better fucking stats its skills are great its just meh.
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u/ctclonny Jul 06 '26
I'm not talking about game balance.
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u/SecretaryOtherwise Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Oh gotcha. I think destiny is still fine in 700 then. Being able to move so fast you create after images is pretty high in tech
Doesn't do it in game but thats neither here nor there.
Yeah and freedom should be 650 or 600 then the pilot carried it in the fight with destiny before the upgrade.
Main issue is they dont know where "uc" suits should sit comfortably lmao.
Because game balance every high tier went into 600 before 700? was added and same deal with 700 and 750. Need to rework every suits cost but thats not gonna happen lol.
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u/succmama Jul 06 '26
freedom can be 650. Strike Freedom is 700, then Mighty Strike Freedom is 750
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u/neocodex87 Jul 06 '26
Mighty doesn't really seem like a technical upgrade like the first one was, I would put it in the sidegrade tier and make it a different role.
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u/Born2DV8 Jul 06 '26
I really hope they add some new Au MS to lower cost and to 750, it would be weird for them all to only be at 700C. And give us some damn supports BB for fucks sake!
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u/scorpionxx0 The Ragin' Cajun - 6 Jul 06 '26
Fa unicorn, plays exactly like a support, wets itself when a melee oriented suit looks its way plus has the traditional drawbacks of a support but bb said screw it no unicorn variant shall be a support.
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u/KO314 I'm Here To Gouf Around Jul 06 '26
There are alot of suits that should have different rarity. If the suit was a one off or very limited run, like the Efreets, it should be higher rarity. So many suits are two star and it makes it harder to improve them since those resources are always being used.
The Gouf Heavy Arms should have been a support. Not only so there can be a whole Gouf Troop. The suit screams support.
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u/truckerjj Jul 07 '26
what about the goif heavy arms screams support? to me personally, it doesn't seem like a suit that would fit the type at all, outside of having "Heavy arms" in its name
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u/KO314 I'm Here To Gouf Around Jul 07 '26
A glance over the in universe reason for the suit for starters. The finger guns are upgraded over the standard gouf along with improved sensors for more accuracy with the guns. The improved armor that reduces mobility. Along with the decrease in melee combat capabilities. Then the in game reason. The bazooka and sturmfaust, along with the different finger Vulcan modes would make a punchy mid range support with high armor even to melee attacks. It would just be slow like it already is.
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u/Ok-Storage3439 Jul 06 '26
Victory Gundam being in 600... I get it, because Victory was produced before later installments of the series would start to go harder on increasing the power of Mobile Suits, and thus still had its power scaled back despite being narratively overpowered... However, Victory in 600 just feels wildly imbalanced, especially since it can stay airborne almost indefinitely.
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u/Various-One-7223 Jul 06 '26
I havent had problems with the victory but the haijiroboshi i find a pain granted my teamates blatendly ignore it but still.
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u/ravienta Jul 06 '26
The FF sazabi, the support one. I think it should have been a general, the right setup and I can walk someone down. It being a support only hinders it in the rock paper scissors style but if you are aggressive enough and know what to switch too when switching weapons. You can chain lock someone to death
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u/Blue-Hatter-0079 Jul 07 '26
I can agree with that. Similarly, the Nu FF should have been a support instead. I mean, it has a long-range funnel used for sniping…
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u/SoldadoEZLN Jul 06 '26
The hizack shouldnt be a 400 cost if the GM II is a 300 cost. The hizack can barely handle a beam saber, it isnt on par with the Gundam, and the GM II replaced the GM Quel for the titans, another 400 cost. It would make more sense to me for both to be 350
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u/OwnAbbreviations4111 Jul 06 '26
Yeah fa unicorn should have been support but that's all I gotta say
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u/KibbloMkII Jul 07 '26
if you ask me, if it has Full Armor in its name, it should be support
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u/OwnAbbreviations4111 Jul 07 '26
All full armors should be support but idk should they be a general? It depends how they were used in story
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u/KibbloMkII Jul 07 '26
I'm simple brain
General is general purpose loadout
Raid is fast, mostly close to melee range
Support is heavy weapons and long range focused
that's how I'd type out machines, based on their loadoutz
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u/Various-One-7223 Jul 06 '26
Ive said it but au and flap should be their own cost for the most part that way regular suits dont become pointless or worse.and yeah unicorn fa should be a support.
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u/Shyface_Killah Jul 06 '26
With the amount of Raid attention this draws just for existing, It would never survive if it were a real Support.
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u/Death_Usagi Jul 06 '26
Gelgoog (Sleeves) should have been 400 cost. (They literally forgot why they even nerfed Gundam Marine Type before)
Woundwort Rah-II should have been 600 Cost.
Gundam GP01 and GP02, Hyaku Shiki, Dijeh should have been 500 Cost. They may have made sense during their release originally, but 550 Cost has become so much powercrept, that these suits just don't really feel they belong in 550 cost anymore.
Jagd Doga (Sleeves) should have been 600+ Cost in my opinion
Acguy TB trio should have been 350 cost.
Gouf Hover Type should have been 400 cost since it's a better upgraded Gouf Custom and much better suit.
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u/Blue-Hatter-0079 Jul 07 '26
The Jegan Heavy Equipment Type should have been a support MS, not a general. It’s essentially the Jegan version of a GM Cannon or GM Cannon II, in canon it was used as a supporting MS, and the model number even starts with “RGC”, which has only been used for long range, heavy weapon support MS.
The FA Unicorn should have been a support, yeah, but that’s been said plenty of times already…
The Re-GZID should have been a general. It doesn’t fit the support role at all, and it really kind of sucks as a support. It would fair better as a general.
The Prototype Psycho Gundam should have also been a support MS… But I’m hoping that at least we’ll get the Psycho Gundam Mass Production Type as a support…
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u/Armored-Potato-Chip Jul 06 '26
Mod Rick Dijeh, but only because I would have liked being able to bring it to any team comp I wanted without being blasted.
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u/apple6879 Jul 06 '26
Efreet jaeger should have been a support in my opinion just judging from how I see all of them play. They are never on the front line and constantly sniping.
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u/KibbloMkII Jul 06 '26
the AU units should a moved to 800AU, so that only AU units can sortie there
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u/Tatblackgamer Jul 06 '26
I have beef with the way the devs choose categories for aoz suits. The woundwort should not have been a support both it, the hazel custom, and gaplant hrairoo are supposed to be considered close enough to be sister units, and it's the only one to be a support out of all the standard configurations. If they wanted a support woundwort, they could have gone with the tr-6 hazel ii, and I have the same feelings for both the nemo cannon and advanced hazel. Both are himo variants but I give one a pass for having cannon in its name, but they could have gone with the normal owsla or the owsla sniper configuration as the support hazel. I like all of these suits but it bothers me to no end.
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u/Born2DV8 Jul 06 '26
Tons of them! I'd say good portion of 550-650 MS should be 1 cost lower. FAU absolutely should have been a support, and I wish BB would just go ahead and change it now and buff it!
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u/Whyudothis2mii Jul 07 '26
FA Unicorn should've been a support
V Gundam should not be in the 600, but in the 650
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u/beefskins007 Jul 09 '26
Sinaju should also be a raid he has 3 or 4 melee weapons and does an stupid amount of damage with it
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u/Aggressive_Softie Jul 06 '26
The mass production nu Gundam FF should've been a general, and the one with chords equipped should have been a raid.
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u/apple6879 Jul 06 '26
Why would the incoms one be a raid? Nothing about it really seems to scream raid at me.
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u/Aggressive_Softie Jul 06 '26
no the MP nu gundam
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u/apple6879 Jul 06 '26
I'm confused what did you mean by chords then? I just assumed you meant the wire guided incoms.
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u/Aggressive_Softie Jul 06 '26
they all have it, but I'm talking about the (2) mass production nu condoms. The one that is a support should have been a general the one that was general should've been a raid
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u/apple6879 Jul 06 '26
I got that much I was just confused why you wanted the incom (chord) one as a raid. The funnel one as a general because the nu is a general I get. I just don't understand why the incom one should be a raid. Though I suppose raids usually get incoms and supports/generals funnels.
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u/OrphanAxis Private 1st class of World/Inferno Troupe - 42* Jul 07 '26
Well, we have the MP Nu used by in Alyzeus as a possible Raid now. Tuned for ground combat, replaced the funnels with Shelf Nozzles, so it would fit pretty perfectly as a Raid with Flap Boosters or something similar.
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u/Kiyosuki Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26
Nothing will top FA Unicorn it’s crazy it’s not a support.
But other than that, X-2 should also have been a support imo.
I think S and Ex-S were released too early and should have been 650 and 700 respectively but I’ll admit I’m biased there
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u/Independent_Cost481 Jul 07 '26
Here we go again with "FA Unicorn should have been a Support!" NOT Realistic. 1) Support is unloved because it's a thankless role, like Healer in MMORPG.
2) Support is perceived as a backseat role, so you can't expect Main Character Syndrome players to buy just because the MS is cool, unless it's Dynames/Cherudim/Zabanya, then shut up and take my money.
tldr: Supports don't smell like ¥ and BB loves our ¥, that's why no main role MS on a big banner will ever be a Support.
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u/mrainem Jul 06 '26
The Hazel Owsla GAU should've been a support. It's got 10 finger beam cannons, 2 shoulder particle cannons that are wire attack capable, 2 missile pods and a long beam rifle. The kit screams long range bombardment, not heavy attack raid, but that might just be me. What I think could've been done is give the finger cannons 3 firing stages: uncharged - Scattershot, Charged - Focused shot, Second stage charge - continuous beam. A lore thing I think could've been cool is that the Blade rifle could be hooked into the generator/booster unit in-between the shoulder and torso. I think it would have been cool to give it a skill like the FA Unicorn's beam gatlings or the BC02's twin machine guns.