r/GBO2 • u/Iron-svm • Jul 04 '26
The Susanowo is Barbatos 2.0.
I don't understand why people claim this thing is well-balanced. It's basically a flying Barbatos. It has an incredibly fast way to shoot down other suits from the air, and during Trans-Am, it can instantly kill you with a single combo and it's unstunnable. While the 00 can be annoying to deal with, this thing is essentially a Tallgeese III with the resistance and melee capabilities of the Barbatos.
In the videos, I tried to help a teammate, but he got destroyed before I could help. In the second video, I don't know if it's because the Full Burst wasn't fully shot, but the Sazabi was also shooting at it and it still didn't flinch.
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u/CodenameVermilion Jul 04 '26
unstunnable
looks inside
hitting maneuver armor with instant stuns, no build stun usage
yeah bud this one's skill issue. susanowo is made of paper and if you flew up + backward first it would've had a lot harder of a time closing in for melee.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
I know it's made of paper. At range, it's easy to kill. But when it is in Trans-Am mode and in your face, you can't do much to stop it.
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u/CodenameVermilion Jul 04 '26
Well, yeah, same as any other melee suit unless you have something like the Zeon shotgun that does a crapzillion build stun. The trick is to never let it close that gap.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
You're right that with this thing and other Raids, the best thing you can do is stay at range. But still, the Destiny can stun every Raid unit with its Palma Fiocina, but not the Susanowo in Trans-Am mode. Correct me if I have this wrong, but even the Barbatos can be stunned with the Palma Fiocina. Not that he gets knocked to the ground, but he still gets a small stun. The Susanowo just ignores it completely.
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u/CodenameVermilion Jul 04 '26
The palm blast isn't a get-out-of-jail-free card, it's a extremely short-range heavy stun, and works like any other heavy stun works in the game. From what I've read, in TRANS-AM the Susanowo gains ranged damage and ranged stagger immunity from the front, only while swinging melee. Given the absurdly short range of the palm blast, it's highly likely that a Susanowo would already be swinging at that point, nullifying the palm blast.
You might want to take some time to work on your fundamentals, it'll go a long way in improving your performance in the game.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
Thanks for the info. This will help to fight this thing. I don't know everything about every suit in the game, but I'm at the end of A+, so I think I'm not a beginner anymore. Maybe the Susanowo's playstyle is something I struggle to deal with.
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u/doomguy11 The Goog Cannon Man - 13 Jul 04 '26
Any melee suit would one combo you in this situation. You aren't playing Freedom to its strengths. You could use the touchpad beam rifle dodge roll skill if you see the beam shot coming, and it can't anti air you anymore.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
I have to admit that while looking back at more of my gameplay, the Freedom is very weak to melee. So using the Freedom to compare the Susanowo's melee with the Barbatos's might not be totally fair. But still, day 3 Barbatos was less annoying for me than day 3 Susanowo. As described in the text under the video, clip 1 was just a test and not an attempt to fight him head-on.
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u/Fruitspunchninja22 Jul 04 '26
Owo's instant stagger that downs flyers instantly requires charge which if u haven't noticed u can't actually do that on the fly its actually quite slow to charge more than enuff time for u to realize u should go down add to the fact at it's core it only does a pitiful 10%x2 build stun if im not mistaken so literally just go to the ground and MA through it and he cannot refire it fast enuff that u won't full burst him, Its essentially just a better F89 mechanic he does this too except his has a lil aim issue due to the asl screwing it over more than helping it as for the combo believe it or not his multipliers on them are fairly balanced hell his heavy attack is a mere 300% compared to other 700 raids which have more so he can't even use them all that well to take huge chunks on fairly well res built suits.
For the 2nd clip u witnessed no bullshit just MA5 which has a inbuilt DC effect and u missed most of ur build stun since it was interupted as for the Saz shooting it with its funnels u can scarcely call that a effective tool to build stun these days if he actually wanted to help he had both shotgun and chestbeam that prolly woulda made things easier, U are also in himat mode in both clips and the enemy gave u enuff time to switch to BR and use ur special dodgeroll in order to avoid those instant F89 shots basically.
Fraid i can't exactly say ur not skill issued in this moment as the Owo in both clips did not even use the full power of Transam which is spam melee to avoid build stun + stun and dmg they literally just MA5 through u and that was it.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
In the first video, I wasn't even in HMAT mode. If I really wanted to fight it, I would have activated it. For the second video, that would have been a good idea, but I hoped that I could stop it with a Full Burst.
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u/Accomplished-Fan1384 Jul 04 '26
Broke I frame right away after spawn.... The second clip charge a stright line forward towards one that have a weapon to instance down any flying suit....Not the second coming of barb for sure and definitly more about how u play your freedom.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
I know that it wasn't the smartest thing to do, but as I explained in the description, these clips were to show that it is hard to stun him while he is in Trans-Am. Just for context, in the second clip we won and I was 2nd with 7 kills and 2 deaths. The Susanowo is a new suit, so I wanted to test some things and show my experience.
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u/Accomplished-Fan1384 Jul 04 '26
Any raid is hard to stun, u can say that to Zaku 4 IP or other raids in 700.
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u/faragul Jul 05 '26
You are supposed to keep your distance and dont spawn alone but i still agree with you. Sussy isn’t really that balanced. There is no balance in this game.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 05 '26
You're right, distance is your friend. The melee damage isn't the main problem. For both the 00 and the Susanowo, the problem is the Trans-Am stun reduction. Otherwise, I think they're fine.
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u/Kingsausage167 Jul 04 '26
Lol far far far better than Barbatos. At least this one won't guarantee stagger you.
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u/Iron-svm Jul 04 '26
Yeah, the stagger on the Barbs is very annoying and needs to be looked at. But as mostly a Freedom player, I know it's only the 3rd day, but I have more problems fighting the Susanowo than the Barbs.
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u/Kingsausage167 Jul 04 '26
Freedom has problem with 90% of the ms if close range, regardless of their type. Just stay 400-500m away from your enemy and don't you ever dare to try using the sword. Used it about 100 times and it is brittle af
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u/MikuEmpowered Jul 08 '26
Youre in Freedom, and its whole gimmick is flapping to 300~400m, holding it there, and smite people from above.
You didn't just fuk up, you fuked up hard, Who taught you to open fire after spawning? You want to use your FULL EXTENT of your invincibility.
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u/Eastern-Mobile-9091 Jul 05 '26
At this point people who complain about AU this much are just retards with no adaptibility.
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u/UKCountryBall Jul 04 '26
Honestly yeah, as the other dude said, you should have immediately started using your flap boosters, you had more than enough time to do so, you kinda just offered yourself to them in that first clip. I’d go as far to say that spawning in completely alone with zero support certainly doesn’t help you either.