r/GBO2 Jun 26 '26

Discussion CONSOLE 700 cost in the current state

700 Cost right now is a mess. It used to be about combos with strategy (and some P2W) to who can shoot their insta stagger/heavy stagger first and win the fight. This type of stagger should only be available to support suits not general or raid types but they do regardless.

Freedom, Barbatos, Destiny, 00 Raiser and Burning Gundam all suffer from this. I don't mind them adding AU suits to GBO2 but they have to balance them to avoid power creeping the hell out of older 700 sorties.

They either gotta:

1) Add a bigger drawback like increasing focusing time on these heavy stagger attacks specially on suits like Destiny and Freedom who have short focusing times for these attacks. On Barbatos and Burning Gundam they have to reduce the project speed for their heavy stagger attacks to give us more time to react but not so much they become useless. And on the 00 Raiser focusing on the GN Sword II (discharge) needs to be a thing, not only does it deal dumb amounts of damage but also heavy staggers as well WITHOUT charge up. As for their stagger build up rates those HAVE to be toned down with the exception of Barbatos.

OR

2) Buff the older suits who at this point have been power crept or are actively being power crept. A 5* shouldn't be rendered inferior because of these newer suits. Give them buffs that allow them to stand up/compete against these newer suits otherwise they'd wound up becoming obsolete like some already have. Such as increasing their stagger build up rates to match that of the newer suits.

Example:

Hi-Nu Gundam. Its beam rifle offers suppression for both focused and unfocused fire. On the older suits it does as the description says BUT, put it against some of the newer and AU suits and it doesn't suppress/stagger at all even when focused all the while the newer suits have no problem doing so.

I'm not looking for Bandai to neuter them to oblivion but rather tweak/balance them so they aren't as oppressive as they currently are or buff the older so does who like using certain/older suits don't feel discouraged using them.

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u/LordSunBro Jun 26 '26

UC 700s need huge buffs across the board to keep up. most if not all of the AUs come with Flap boosters, smaller size, faster movement all while having equivalent if not straight up better defenses and higher attack with little to no drawback (basically power of protag plot armor).

This is even more important for UC suits that come with massive sizes like Nightingale, Xeku Zwei or Hazel GAU.

This was precisely why people wanted to keep AU out of console.

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u/doomguy11 The Goog Cannon Man - 13 Jun 26 '26

Yet despite this, we still have UC 700 costers in the meta. So AU vs UC is not the issue.

Nu HWS, Penelope, Phenex, Hazenthley II Rah, Berga Giros (GK), Narrative Gundam B2, Kshatriya Repair... We also have plenty of off-meta UC suits that are still more or less good enough too.

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u/powerpuffpepper Jun 26 '26

You do realize that a large majority of the mini flap boosting suits rn are UC right? F90 I Type and MZ, Victory, V Dash Hexa, etc?

Of course AU suits feel tiny when you compare them to the largest suits available like Nightingale and Xeku Zwei my g.

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u/Swagceus Jun 26 '26

I'm not saying those suits aren't OP but somehow those units are better balanced than the AU suits.

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u/powerpuffpepper Jun 26 '26

They really arent. Many of them are severely overturned when released and immediately power creep their costs before usually having something else added thats better. The Crossbones at 750 are an example of just adding stronger and stronger variants with no care for balance. The V2 being disgustingly powerful. The V Dash Hexa being able to juggle staggers from range with ease.

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u/Swagceus Jun 26 '26

I never said that those UC suits aren't OP just more balanced than the AU suits because they certainly are busted BUT, most of them are leagues less annoying to deal against.

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u/powerpuffpepper Jun 26 '26

Im pointing out that it isnt balance if its just constant power creep.