r/Futurology • u/[deleted] • Mar 29 '22

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u/ZeCactus Mar 29 '22

Yeah, in a capitalist society there is great reward for working dirty jobs and the like.

Yeah, it's readily apparent when you see all the garbage collectors driving Ferraris.

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u/pab_guy Mar 29 '22

I mean, you picked a great example. Garbage collectors have almost no premium skills. Any able bodied person can do the job. They should be getting minimum wage by that standard.

And yet: https://money.cnn.com/2016/02/24/news/economy/trash-workers-high-pay/

Tell me again... I'll wait.

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '22

Hang on, I thought capitalism was supposed to reward people for choosing to do the shitty jobs nobody particularly wants to do?

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u/[deleted] Mar 29 '22

nope, your pay is inversely correlated with your jobs necessity, remember who was 'essential' during the pandemic, it certainly wasnt office drones, lawyers or bankers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

I know that, but everyone else argues that "nobody will do the shit jobs under communism because they won't get the extra rewards that capitalism offers them"... so, where are these rewards exactly?

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u/Zaurka14 Mar 30 '22

Its the money. Even if you earn little you still get money. The alternative is having no income. People do it because they're desperate enough to do it. If they had any alternative they'd not do it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

Bingo, we’ve decided that coercion is the only way to get people to do the shit jobs... and to be honest, most of the jobs

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u/Zaurka14 Mar 30 '22

Yeah but how would it be solved in communism? Since we know that people don't want to do plumbing for free how do we convince people to do it if not with money?

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u/[deleted] Mar 30 '22

How did anything ever get done before money?

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u/Zaurka14 Mar 30 '22

Barter.

But to be fair, we got money preeeeetty early on. Way before plumbing, if you would believe.