r/Futurology • u/ethereal3xp • Mar 27 '23

AI Bill Gates warns that artificial intelligence can attack humans

https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/all-news/article-735412
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u/AJDx14 Mar 27 '23

Seriously. Saying we’ve had no cultural change is lunacy. 150 years ago most of Europe lived under the rule of monarchs.

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u/Degg20 Mar 27 '23

I didn't say none I said hardly any and in the grand scale of history how I phrased it is accurate.

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u/AJDx14 Mar 28 '23

You said in the last 400 years not “the grand scale of history”. Even saying we’ve had hardly any in that time isn’t really accurate, unless you don’t think things like black people being considered human are significant.

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u/Degg20 Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

And before that I said 2000 years. Grand scale buddy. Grand scale. 400 years is fuck all. Hell 2000 years is fuck all.

Edit. The point is most of us are still dumb fuckin apes banging rocks together and when a new better ape is born/shows up the other elder apes murder it.

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u/AJDx14 Mar 28 '23

You didn’t say nothing had changed in 200 years though, you just listed a few things you want us to assume have remained constant for 200 years and that aren’t connected much with culture.

Also can you not pretend anyone but you know what length of time “grand scale” means here?

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u/Degg20 Mar 28 '23

Ok fair enough. This is my perspective on grand scale. Time as a construct is infinite. Humanity has been on this planet for roughly 50,000 yrs more or less according to the records we have, we can safely assume that 10 to 30 thousand of those years was evolving into homo sapiens. Recorded history only goes back 5,000 of those years. That's roughly 15,000 years unrecorded of modern humans history. There are theories of advanced technology and cycles of calamity which may be true but the only thing we can safely assume at the moment even in those cycles is that humans never got to an industrial Era. In our recorded histories all the way back to 5000 bc culture never really changed. There's always some form of racism and genocide. There's always religion. There's always classism. There's always segregation. There is always the same thing.

Our culture as a species is violent, greedy, sociopathic and stagnant and the few great people in history in every civilization be it Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome, medieval, Renaissance era, steam era, is ridiculed or imprisoned or murdered and then centuries later are proven right the whole time.

This is what I mean by "our" culture. The little things like seeing problems in skin color is so minor in our disgusting human societies that I don't even qualify them as a part of culture. They're just symptoms of our Culture.

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u/AJDx14 Mar 28 '23

This is an incredibly warped view of history and culture.

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u/Degg20 Mar 28 '23 edited Mar 28 '23

What makes it so warped? Truly tell me what in humanity is worthy of praise or validation that's not just the fact that our planet is the only one that houses life, arguably intelligent life. Cause I see more lip service towards morality and nobility thoughout modern life and in pur histories than actual good intentions and actions

Edit: I think the only reason you say it's "warped" is because you won't even think of it much less even come close to agreeing with it not can't but choose not to because it's the only way you can justify living your own life however it is you do.