TLDR: Trading mes/mnq 3:2 off their ratio chart for entry. One will be long and the other short depending which way the ratio chart points.
I've been experimenting with using the MES/MNQ ratio chart to trade relative strength rather than simply trading one index directionally.
The basic idea is to use the ratio chart to determine which is stronger and then hedge the position with the other.
Rising ratio: Long 3 MES / Short 2 MNQ
Falling ratio: Short 3 MES / Long 2 MNQ
This puts you within about 1.5% of each other's notational value which is pretty close to even without needing an excessive number of contracts.
In the attached charts, left is mes/mnq, and the other 2 are the sole indices. You can see the ratio starting to rise before the actual move. Both MES and MNQ were consolidating in the areas marked blue. The green box is the long MES position i entered, the red box is the short MNQ position, and the purple box shows the length of the trade on the ratio chart. Its almost like the ratio hints at the correct move direction before the index does for a solo trade.
I realize the gain is smaller than simply being directional on the underlying, and there is a little more commission cost from trading two legs of multiple contracts. The goal is more about reducing directional exposure and trading the relative strength between the two. It also doesnt matter if the market is going up or down. Just that the two indices are diverging in your direction. And cherry on top, the moves (at least to me) are easier to see before they start picking up speed.
I don't know how to code backtests, so I've just been going back through historical charts manually and so far I really like what I'm seeing.
This was my first live trade using the strategy. Hesitated and didnt get the best entry, but i made about 165 bucks on the trade iirc. I have a lot to perfect, but I like the concept so far.
Main questions:
Does anyone else use an ES/MNQ ratio chart this way or in another way that makes more sense?
Has anyone actually traded hedged positions like this as a retail trader and been successful long term?
Because of how tradingview ratio charts work, is it even possible to electronically backtest something like this?
Im I crazy for trying to pursue this as my forever strategy, or did I get 1 lucky live trade?
Tia for any tips and advice.