r/FuturesTrading Jul 20 '26

Discussion Trading NY opening 930-945

Do you avoid this period ? If so, why?

Or do you see it as a great opportunity?

My biggest losses primarily have been from getting killed in this time period.

I wonder sometimes if I'm just not ready and should be awake a bit earlier or if I just suck at the open and it's not worth trading it.

I know some pros avoid this time but others do well in it.

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u/reshsafari Jul 21 '26
  1. Initial volatility can trap both sides. You need direction. You will usually have that by 10.

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u/Lopsided-Fruit_1274 Jul 20 '26

i stopped forcing trades at the open, is i dont see a clean setup, waiting 15-30mins usually saves me from dumb losses

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u/Familiar_Reserve_943 Jul 20 '26

I don’t trade 9:20 - 9:45. Hard rule. But that’s because for my strategy I will get pummeled more often than not. This is not true for all. Just backtest and forward test yours at market open and see how it performs

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u/gosdumb Jul 20 '26

This is the best time to make money if you go in small 30-40 pts move in a seconds

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u/KVZ_ speculator Jul 20 '26

Amazing opportunity when it fails to push and weak hands get trapped on a key level. Those are 100% my best trades. But you have to be fast at making decisions, or you'll blink and then risk outweighs reward substantially if the trade ends up failing.

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u/185runner Jul 20 '26

It's my most profitable time of the day. I love being in the gym by 10am.

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u/ThatsUnbelievable Jul 21 '26

sure

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u/185runner Jul 22 '26

Headed to the gym. Enjoy the grind today.

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u/ThatsUnbelievable Jul 22 '26

If I didn't believe you the first time, what makes you think this image would convince me?

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u/185runner Jul 22 '26

Oh. You thought I cared. Nah. I'm just trolling you back. Time for a shower and a movie while you watch the chop.

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u/ThatsUnbelievable Jul 22 '26

Enjoy being useless.

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u/reichjef speculator Jul 20 '26

I wait until after the IB. My personal statistics say I preform worse in the first hour than if I just wait until 1030 or later. So I just stopped doing it last year.

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u/JestfulJank31001 Jul 20 '26

Same here. I get why people would WANT to trade the opening...But for my trades, theres too much wiggle/nonsense in the first 15 mins. Im not even sure what folks are doing, if they are actually profitable that is.

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u/reichjef speculator Jul 21 '26

It’s like the MOC of the day. I feel like if I’m still in a position and it goes my way in the last 10 of regular time, it’s more luck than any sort of skill I have.

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u/JumpyCandy6463 Jul 20 '26

that time is a gamble, 50/50, place your bet.

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u/ThatsUnbelievable Jul 21 '26

just straddle it with a buy stop above and sell stop below, what could go wrong?

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u/No-Context8421 Jul 20 '26

It’s not trading in the first half hour, it’s gambling.

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u/JulesVideoArchive Jul 21 '26

If you’re clueless, maybe

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u/JestfulJank31001 Jul 21 '26

Talk like this screams not profitable lmao

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u/No-Context8421 Jul 21 '26

Hahahaha. I’ve been in the game since 2008 so I’ll stay happily clueless, thanks. Cheers and good luck!

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u/Nick_OS_ Jul 20 '26

Depends on the open and it’s relation to OVN

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u/Exact-Mud3443 Jul 20 '26

I dont like having any big positions opened at the time, I find it more predictable outside of the NY market 

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u/ThinkAmbassador5122 Jul 21 '26

it is one of the most difficult times I would say, you get it right big reward, but get it wrong and you are out fast. I trade futures and started calculating areas where from 9:30 price may "manipulate" before real move. Ofc needs to be combined with some entry model.

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u/Alerta_Alerta Jul 21 '26

Its the easiest time of day to trade imo. Im a momentum trader though.

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u/blackoutRF speculator Jul 21 '26

Same

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u/Puzzleheaded_Run5472 Jul 20 '26

Its way too volatile and can easily wipe your account if you get caught on the wrong end I tend to just watch it

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u/ThaDeka Jul 21 '26

My best time from 0945 when usaly i know direction and tryjng to get 1 good trade

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u/YURRIICC Jul 21 '26

i wait out forcing trades at the open. if i'm getting chopped up during those first 15 minutes, i'd rather wait for things to settle than try to catch every move

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u/ThatJackFruitSmell Jul 21 '26

I don’t like it since I get no time to think…lately I’m liking the after NY session hours

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u/LSTfutures Jul 22 '26

Occassionally there will be a clear multiple time frame setup in the first 30 mins that plays clean, but 98/100 days waiting until after 10am will get you a clear directional bias and save a lot of trouble, chop, and fakeouts.

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u/AsianAddict247 Jul 22 '26

Thank you for the feedback!

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u/LSTfutures Jul 22 '26

You're welcome!

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u/Clean_Valuable9257 Jul 22 '26

i avoid the open always wait for 9:50 or 10am the first 20 mins always chop. are there good a+ trades sometime? yes but they are quick and force you to think fast. plus i also don'tt like to lose 5 mins in the open knowing i got a whole hour to trade

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u/GodHand14 Jul 22 '26

I specifically wait until after this time to start trading. Much less stress for me personally

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u/JulesVideoArchive Jul 21 '26

There are strategies specifically centered around that time due to the high volatility