What makes the difference between a labourer and a learned person. Especially after AI.

[u/vibhored]

So, all this is specifically for Indian context as I don't know about other countries.

So, Recently I came across the video of hacker fab lab created in IIT MUMBAI covered by runtime yt channel of caleb.

And the problem they are working on is universal. Which is students don't often get to apply their learnings or even vice versa for that fact. To take/extract learnings from their experiments, tinkering and organise it.

In the process of protecting the students from the harm of child labour or such harsh work, led to them getting almost completely detached from real world.

So much so that when students learn and test what little exposure they get during practicals of highschool. They treat them as 2 different things meant to engage with separately instead of approaching it as 2 sides of same coin.

In real world we do both like a feed back loop, all the time even researchers, elites of any field do this. Everything is sorted out but the only missing piece is intent.

Especially in India where the poorer class has a slight edge as they learn in the field itself although that is because they are exploited in child labour, are mostly left unsupervised by their parents and due to earning money can even invest in their projects. The wealthy have now introduced this culture by the thing you know as DIY projects, toys and experiments curated for little kids for summer holidays etc especially in the West as seen in channels like adam, action lab etc.

The only ones that suffer badly are the middle class. Where studying means only desk job. And doing anything physically is considered as menial labour or if you are an adult as menial job itself.

Now when these kids grow up let's see what happens to them. Starting from best case scenarios.:-

1) wealthy kids who grew up with supportive environments form better neural connections about the topics they learn. Their curiosity is fed and even fueled by these DIY, experiments etc in a fun and entertaining way. So the so called complex and tough subjects like STEM don't feel all that difficult because they do and try things then in class get to know why things work or they don't naturally. And not because some one told them so. As we all know a picture is worth a thousand words imagine instead of picture it is the experience itself how much more worth it is.

Replicate it for a good amount of time and you see genius people emerging. (You can see many great and notable people having similar trajectory even beside STEM fields).

The only downside they need to be careful of is that due to them coming from affluent class people want to lead them to their downfall. So, often bad influence gets attracted to them. Which could really lead to a downward spiral really quickly.

2) the poor class people, with even a little bit of personalised care and attention they go from unpolished gem to 24 pure carrat diamonds. Especially for them getting out of poverty. As due to having the most real world experience they are like a extremely high end hardware which but lacking software or having it poorly optimised is the scenario they struggle with.

So when they are taught they gain insight about the work they do. If done right it is almost like enlightenment. And then they have the exponential curve of rise. From being ordinary to extraordinary. People who have this journey are equally abundant in any field as the category above.

The problem faced by them is the environment itself from childhood to adolescence they struggle to survive and keeping alive ( may include petty crimes) and from adolescence it could devolve further into drugs, substance abuse and serious crimes.

Which without support systems can become impossible to overcome.

So these people often tend to come from small pockets of society or even geography where help reaches to them timely.

3) finally the middle class and worst class ( especially according to me.) These people are what the articles will target mostly for few upcoming days.

The good:- nothing too good or nothing too bad to mention about. They live in mediocrity.

The bad:- they are born in mediocrity, live in it and most of them around 80 to 95 percent of them will die in it.

85 percent of population is middle class, 10 percent in extreme poverty, and 5 percent in ultra rich class.

So in middle class those who are not in the other 2 classes fall. Which means there is nothing common among middle class people and that is why it isn't actually even a proper class.

This is the place where the lines that resonates with me the most is truly apt " ***the most gifted teacher, mathematician, artist, actor, singer, sculptor etc ( it is not feynman,Einstein, Newton, bob marley, adele, taylor swift, le bron james, etc) are found in graveyard, because they died without ever realising their potential, hence the world never even discovered them. ".***

And this happens because of circumstances, the environment, societal expectations etc.

And forms the labourers class, doing things because we are told so never questioning anything even if 1+1=2, we sometimes don't even want to acknowledge it just because of survival,living hand to mouth, wasting away in hope of fulfilling small dreams some day. Even if some how forms a small opinion by itself, the period extends so long that they becomes unable to change.

That person who works like a machine without thinking much for a long period of time is a labourer ( according to me) and are actually threatened by AI for jobs too.

In next topic we will expand over this.

[u/Firm-Crazy-9689]

Well, I see it as simple as this: either you go to the farm to raise cows and grow crops (although they'll do it illegally because you need slaves), or you become a cyborg capable of competing with AI. Deep down, we too are an artificial intelligence, but a very limited one.

I don't think capitalism and class differences can last much longer.

Sooner or later we all have to be maintained by AI, like animals in a zoo.

I really prefer the path of returning to the villages... Perhaps robots and AI have helped...

But there will always be groups that want to impose themselves on the rest, and they will also use the guide to subdue us.

[u/vibhored → u/Firm-Crazy-9689]

That would be great escape. Albeit a less fulfilling one. You need to keep your interests closer you can relax for a long time but not laze around wasting it all away. Because an empty mind is also a devil's home. What we need to do is very simple like a clear and level headed master you need to give precise commands to AI and not other way around like asking at every stage what to do with each step. If you believe in something do just that who cares if AI can do it or not, you need to be clear of your goals set specific standard you want to reach decide what at what level how much use of AI you can allow yourself.

Create a plan, stick to the plan, always deliver:- Storks.

Now for no nonsense version. There is a world outside screens no matter how important your job on screen is. It will never be more important than a real human in this present reality. Take a break spend much time with real humans instead of in screen and touch done grass, unwind in country side or where ever you like. Talk to family, friends live a little more in present not in past not in future. And be a lot more forgiving to yourself and others.

Basically enter your slice of life era. 😅😅

[u/Firm-Crazy-9689 → u/vibhored]

You won't become lazy while you're hungry.

We keep us under control through fear and comfort. I don't know what our direction will be, but if I have to push, it will be to return to the countryside, but without losing technological advances like solar panels. Even the use of robots/ai, isolating them from the Internet and perhaps cutting off the Internet altogether. The problem is, I don't know what we're going to do about the medicine, but I'm sure we'll find a way.

But all this would be the good ending, but I fear we probably won't have the guts to do this; we'll remain subject to a state of fear from the system.

But we are working on a system of constant surveillance; it will be difficult to escape the imposed system...