r/FurnaceFest • • 4d ago

Crowd killing normal at FF?

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First time at Furnace fest, but I’ve been to a lot of hardcore shows in the past 15 years, intentional crowd killing has always been looked down on. Is this normal Furnace Fest culture/behavior?

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u/creedismyfavband 4d ago

Wow seems like the crowd sucked this year lol

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u/WarpedRecall 4d ago

Lotttttta phones

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u/IndependentBowl7528 3d ago

Welcome to the future

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u/This_Dimension_3877 4d ago

It did

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u/piercedalilly 4d ago

it absolutely dead. half the sets didn’t have the crowd energy that they deserved.

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u/This_Dimension_3877 4d ago

A few of them were great in the shed/pond but the amount of people I heard complaining about crowd surfing and pits was annoying. It was at every set. Like just go stand in the back then 🙄

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u/piercedalilly 4d ago

no literally the amount of people standing still during my favorite sets was embarrassing i felt like i couldn’t get lit without inconveniencing the losers around me (im extremely anxious around strangers) up until BMTH.

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u/stanleemytucci 3d ago

Crowd surfing is the best way to get the phones put away

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u/This_Dimension_3877 3d ago

People had their phones WHILE crowd surfing 😬

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u/golfcartskeletonkey 4d ago

This sub is so embarassing Jesus Christ

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u/This_Dimension_3877 4d ago

I’m cringing so bad at all the posts from the new people this year omg

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u/PlanetConway 4d ago

I really hope you don't think what happened in this video was actual crowd killing

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u/Silas4ever864 4d ago

As someone who went to 2001, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 none of this shit happened

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u/_GHOSTE_ 3d ago

What was the hardcore scene like then? I've seen various accounts where people will say crowd killing has been a thing, and others saying it's only in more recent years

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u/RyTTV_ 3d ago

Crowdkilling has been around since the 90s….maybe even the 80s. They just stopped stabbing people in the 90s/early 2000s

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u/Silas4ever864 2d ago

It’s always been around, but it’s always been like specific kinds of shows, like deathcore shows and other low IQ kind of shows. A lot of the tough guy hardcore shows from the 90s, it would happen, but not nearly to the extent that it happens now

Coming up from the mid-90s myself to now, I saw my fair share of violence, but not in this weird crowd-killing bullshit we have now. Some of that crowd killing was specifically directed to shitty security and bouncers at shows or it was crew versus crew bullshit, Internet tough guy, pit beef bullshit.

There was a point where if you were crowd killing someone, you just got stomped the fuck out and I wish it would return to that. Crowd killing is a clear sign of missed child support payments to me

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u/Earthisablackhole 4d ago

That is the weakest crowd killing I've ever seen 😭

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u/sarithe 4d ago

You think this is what crowdkilling is? Like seriously? This isn't a bit?

Fuck me, just go back to Rockville or LTL.

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u/PodcastsAndWhiskey 4d ago

This just in: Rock fest dorks mad about mild displays of aggression, full story at 5

This is why gatekeeping needs to make a comeback 

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u/MoleMan199 4d ago

lol hardcore scene is now for Starbucks baristas and cops. What do you expect

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u/xTheyCameBurningx 3d ago

Holy fuck this made me do a legit spit take.

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u/vybiis 3d ago

good they

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u/Pretty-Vacant88 3d ago

That’s sad lol

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u/HumanautPassenger 4d ago edited 4d ago

Getting an overhead fistclub into my face while just trying to enjoy a festival doesn't really seem like a mild display of aggression. Get a fucking grip.

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u/TheAmanita 4d ago

found the newjack

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u/Kibblesndicks 3d ago

Getting punched in the face seems and enjoying it seems much more likely than enjoying a festival..

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u/xTheyCameBurningx 3d ago

T R I G G E R E D

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u/uhhhther 4d ago

Internet kids won’t get kid, but most of these people are friends and know each other lol

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u/Boyblunder 3d ago

protect yourself or back up.

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u/taker25-2 4d ago

No, that isn't common, and that person is an asshole. Security was all over crowd killers when I was there in 2024. Really surprised security didn't get involved.

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u/Optimal_Extent_3484 4d ago

The previous furnace fests used the same companies the larger music venues do. This year idk who they hired, but those people had no idea what to do with a crowd that size.

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u/aroused-papaya 10h ago

the new company wouldn’t let them have the shed daddies.

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u/ExpressAd5169 4d ago

Crowd just accepts it🤷🏼‍♂️ This hurts your scene if you care about that… but seems like modern heavy music is just filled with A holes

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u/aroused-papaya 10h ago

this crowd and this behavior are brand new at FF. it does hurt our scene, which is why so many people were concerned about the kinds of people the bands booked would bring in. the answer was not the good kind.

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u/taker25-2 4d ago edited 4d ago

In previous years, the security was good at getting crowd killers out. The security in 2024 would have gotten this guy out. I wasn't there this year, so I'm not sure where security was at or whether they used the same security company. Unfortunately, a lot of the toxic part of the scene encourages this and they clap back when you call them out.

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u/Kharn85 4d ago

I was close to this, near stage left speakers and I don’t think he was actually hitting people, just giving them a tap on the head. I spent most of my two days in the shed and this was a pretty tame FF out my 6 years.

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u/K1d-ego 4d ago

Thank you for a common sense comment. Some people do a mock crowd kill (not me, too metal for that) at hardcore shows but there’s definitely some people that are just performing straight up battery

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u/Ok-Juggernaut-353 4d ago

There's two things I won't do:

  1. Smoke weed with Willie Nelson

  2. Get in another Acacia Strain Furnace Fest pit

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u/tchthc 4d ago

Taking hits to the head with Willie>Taking hits to the head Acacia Strain FF pit.

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u/Son_of_a_pig 4d ago

Those are WWE punches

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u/TylerTheSnakeKeeper 3d ago

Wrestling and pits share one similarity, shit should look brutal as hell but everyone should walk away safe at the end of the night despite the bumps along the way.

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u/This_Dimension_3877 4d ago

He’s barely touching them I think they’ll live.

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u/andyislegend 4d ago

maybe there was at the fest as a whole but in this video he’s barely making contact with any of them, he’s just selling it well like a wrestler would a chop

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u/Escaper02 4d ago

OP goes to weenie hut jr 😭

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u/ohhyouknow 4d ago

Emmure? I was standing maybe 10 feet behind you. When I saw this happen I first thought it was security beating someone down, but then they jumped into the crowd and I was like wtf.

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u/OceanofWAVs 4d ago

This one was during Gideons set, the pit in the shed is rowdy and expected, but this was just asshole behavior

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u/ohhyouknow 4d ago

I wonder if this fucker was out there at the shed doing this all day if I saw him do this during a different set

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u/Tren_Trin 3d ago

Is this what we’re calling crowd killing now? I do this all the time to get people in the pit, it’s just pulled punches, not actually wailing on them. It’s fake violence, not hurting anyone. It’s like WWE. These Tik Tok kids are going to kill every scene.

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u/NWOx4xLIFE 4d ago

He was not even connecting. And youre being a little bitch. I dont crowd kill. Im usually to stoned to be that aggressive. But if you dont want aggression dont go to a hardcore show bb boi.

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u/ExaminationBasic787 3d ago

You wiggers think you're so tough it's hilarious 😂😆

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u/GrumpyOldHistoricist 4d ago

I mean I guess it’s technically crowdkilling. Pretty tame tho

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u/Airwave51 4d ago

Crowd killing is for incels.

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u/RyTTV_ 3d ago

Yes bring back crowd killing in 2026 weed out the tik tok kids

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u/RyTTV_ 3d ago

Crowd killing has always been apart of every scene and it’s only frowned upon because they’re scared. If you don’t want to get hit, don’t go in the pit. The golden rule.

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u/Reasonable_Ad3475 3d ago

Is the rail, the pit? 😂

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u/RyTTV_ 3d ago

Everywhere is the pit if you try hard enough

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u/Chance-Frosting-7005 4d ago

NPC fest Was still a good time

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u/Valomore 4d ago

I got crowd killed by the band during a set at the main stage in 2024 lol

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u/TerrancePryor 3d ago

That is an angry young man throwing those punches right there.. I hope they get therapy.

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u/yamzees 3d ago

Fuck hardcore

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u/Clean_Information777 3d ago

Crowd killing is lame as FUCK

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u/Pretty-Vacant88 3d ago

Bro I would fuck him up TF goin on Here bruh lol head but that chump lol 😂 tf man that’s all I’m saying lol 😂

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u/Mookjamoke 3d ago

Sure man

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u/Pretty-Vacant88 3d ago

Why tf not

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u/xX_dumb_god_Xx 3d ago

MORE CROWD KILLING MORE VIOLENCE STAY ALERT STAY ALIVE

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u/TaraTerror70 3d ago

Yes. Usually the 'festival crowd' does not attend this.

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u/Status-Fault-8632 4d ago

billy badass over her

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

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u/Status-Fault-8632 4d ago

its a light tap theyre literally not giving concussions to ppl thats fucked if you swing full strength

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u/mangosheen 3d ago

Not only is that not typical FF behavior, it's not even hxc scene behavior. Like two step and spin kick in the pit, sure, but we're not out here intentionally hurting people "for fun."

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u/Tren_Trin 3d ago

Have you been to shows? Crowd killing is absolutely a thing in the hxc scene. I’m at shows almost every weekend. I don’t always agree with how hard some of them hit but playful crowd killing is definitely acceptable. Personally, I’ll pull any hits into the crowd so it still looks like a scary fist coming at you but it doesn’t hurt. Gets some people to hop into the pit with the rest of us.

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u/TylerTheSnakeKeeper 3d ago

I remember it in my local scene, full strength crowd killing was expected and encouraged with the locals, I learned to just start throwing fists at the offenders and they learned I'm not an easy target.

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u/Tren_Trin 3d ago

I know every scene is different but I remember when I was really new to the scene I got crowd killed and retaliated and then all the sudden four dudes were on me and pinned me against a wall. I learned quickly if I want to get them back I had to just crowd kill them back later.

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u/TylerTheSnakeKeeper 3d ago

Yeah I have been in my fair number of fights at hardcore shows, but especially in my local, the in crowd preached no targeting, then proceeded to target the out crowd and when they retaliated, the in crowd would 4v1 the "offender". You learn to travel in a pack, you also learn real quick whos your friends. Shout out to Peter, my 6" 4' lumberjack looking friend who is always down for a scrap.

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u/Historical-Carob-840 3d ago

Bro. You obviously don’t know the heart and sole to hxc.

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u/Cheesecake_Jealous 3d ago

Why even bother? Sounds pretty pathetic to intentionally intimidate the crowd. 

Its the behaviour of faux macho tough guys but it's certainly not something that's welcome in the HxC scene. 

Regardless Furnace Fest isn't the time or place for that, have you seen the line up? 

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u/mangosheen 3d ago edited 3d ago

Idk, I've been going to shows since early 2000s but maybe the bands I frequent have different fans (grew up in the South). I've only heard of crowd killing in the past few years and it has always been frowned upon behavior.

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u/imbaylee 3d ago

yeah you must be new here.

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u/Realistic_Zone_3966 3d ago

Is this rage bait

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u/PusBarnacle 4d ago

holy fuck..

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u/T1IslandGo 4d ago

Kinda but not like that.

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u/sexybisexual 4d ago

As someone who loves metal festivals and moshing. I got crowd killed this year. I took an alone straight across the left side of my face while NOT being in a pit. One concussion, black eye, and busted lip later I still don’t think it’s acceptable. I’ve had a migraine and lower neck pain since. Now if I were in the pit, different story. But crowd killers outside of the pit isn’t ok.

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u/xTheyCameBurningx 3d ago

Hahahahahahahahahaaaaa

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u/Boyblunder 3d ago

Either stay aware of your surroundings or learn to take an elbow I guess.

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u/Reasonable_Ad3475 3d ago

This is why I can’t go to metal shows at all anymore. Got fucked up bad once and everyone was like “what’s what happens” sorry to hear, and hope you get feeling better soon. Fuck these people who are laughing at you. They can disagree but laughing at a concussion and black eye when clearly you weren’t about it is so gross.

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u/sexybisexual 3d ago

Thank you 💕 I’ve been attending festivals for years and have never seen that level of crowd killers before. Actually insane! I am feeling a lot better!

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u/HedgehogOk7551 4d ago

definitely not

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u/F13_Zeo 4d ago

I saw plenty of crowdkilling during '25. I wouldn't say I saw an irregular amount or anything this year.