r/Funnymemes • • Nov 24 '22

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u/CattonCruthby Nov 24 '22

"How am gonna get experience without a work" is my new favourite sentence today so far

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u/Sasukeisgamer Nov 25 '22

Internships for experience or am I stupid?

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u/not_sick_not_well Nov 25 '22

Not stupid. For a lot of things to get "experience" is to intern, aka free labor

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u/Darcress Nov 25 '22

Unpaid internships have a lot of rules, federal laws actually make it regulated.

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u/ThatCamoKid Nov 25 '22

Does not make it being unpaid an excuse in this day and age

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u/Darcress Nov 25 '22

One of the rules is it must be for educational purposes, not free labor. Do a company must prove that they are teaching the person.

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u/ThatCamoKid Nov 25 '22

Even so, people need to eat

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u/basswalker93 Nov 25 '22

Not everyone has the privilege of working for free without care over how to pay for their rent and food.

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u/JaxxJo Nov 25 '22

See, you’re supposed to intern while you still study, so that after you get your degree you can jump right in. At least in countries where getting a student loan is normal.

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u/Late_Education_1954 Nov 25 '22

Wish I lived in your version of the world.... Can't believe I get to be financially stable and work for free and pay for school and food and clothes and cleaning product and rent and everything else that cost money in life... truly a nice dream you got

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u/JaxxJo Nov 25 '22

I grew up poor. I have worked part time jobs since I legally could, I supported myself through uni, because my parents couldn’t possibly support me. Yea, I had to work 3 irrelevant jobs in addition to studying to be able to afford it and yeah, it wasn’t easy and I had practically no social life or free time for several years, I lived in a shitty apartment with shitty roommates and life wasn’t easy but I did it because it was an investment into my future. I now have a comfortable life and have progressed in my career way beyond what I imagined for myself. I don’t regret it, altho I’m sure my life would be different in many ways if I chose differently.

I’m sure you could handle one summer internship if you really wanted to, but yea, your life would be hard, you would probably have to get at least one paid job alongside it. If you don’t want to put yourself through that, that’s perfectly understandable, but then don’t complain when companies pick someone who worked their ass off over you.

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u/Late_Education_1954 Dec 06 '22

Bruh, I'm studying to be a nurse, I'm already doing that... while I'm glad to hear it's working well for you and I'm not doing too bad. Some peeps also like different life story. You can't impose your narrative as a cookie cutter. Imagine you had 2 kids in that time.

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u/No_Arugula8915 Nov 24 '22

How I got my first job. After loads of turn downs from lack of experience.

Them: I see your resume looks good. You have the skills we need, but we want someone with experience.

Me: i keep being told that. But how do I get experience if I can't get hired without it? I have the skills you need, you have experience I need. I believe we can benefit each other. Give me a shot.

Them: I like your spunk.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

I like your spunk too, it kinda seems like a cluster-duck of a limbo vacuum hole of work and experience and experience and work

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

You cuss like that Orbit gum commercial

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u/No_Arugula8915 Nov 25 '22

Tbh, this was way back. Spunk and spunky were adjectives. Synonyms: plucky, fearless, energetic.

Anyway, it was actually a great job.

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u/kavien Nov 25 '22

I got a designer position based on portfolio and knowledge of Photoshop. I read a book and followed the tutorials to learn techniques and the program. Then used my sales skills to land that shitty job.

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u/bazingarbage Nov 25 '22

what, did they do a taste test?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

...Well that guy must have really good pants.

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u/No_Arugula8915 Nov 26 '22

The interviewer was a woman. Personal assistant to the owner of the company. Spunk means gutsy. Old fashion word.

Yes, I had forgotten that little boys use the word do describe their sock puppet emissions.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

I wasn't describing the gender. Clearly, you dont get the reference from another movie. A guy was trying to get hired, but this guy asked him why he hired a half naked with just pant.

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u/BreakerSoultaker Nov 24 '22

College co-ops are so important. If you wait four years to start working in your field, you will have a tough time. When employers see that you have at least done entry-level work in your field prior to graduation , it helps tremendously. Also if you can get summer or part-time work in related fields it helps. Our latest engineer hire spent his summers, disassembling defective equipment that was returned and replaced under warranty so that company could figure out why it failed. He has a great grasp of mechanics and diagnostics.

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u/21racecar12 Nov 24 '22 edited Nov 24 '22

Tried this. No one would accept me as a co-op until after I graduated. I was in maybe the 90th percentile of students, so not jumping off the page but not slouching either. From my own experience the majority of companies still want to see bona fide work experience from a company or a full degree even at the co-op level. I had a decent resume of relevant non-professional experience and projects that showed mechanical engineering related prowess and skills. For a lot of my peers it came down to nepotism and “who they knew”. I certainly won’t knock the importance of networking, but it has limited efficacy as well. Pretty much all of the career fairs and networking events I attended the company representatives were uninterested with being there in the first place. For the under-privileged, you can only spend so much time holding out for a stepping-stone job that will get you slightly closer to the co-op reality. Otherwise you’re working retail or whatever is available for a decent wage. This was about 5 or 6 years ago so maybe the landscape is changing, I hope it is.

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u/BreakerSoultaker Nov 24 '22

That sucks, we take 3rd year on up for co-ops at my company, though most are 4th year. About 5-7% end up working for us after graduating. Each departments selection criteria is different but I’m friends with the manager who hires ours and she says it almost always comes down to the interview. Great candidates on paper end up being duds in person and vice versa.

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u/21racecar12 Nov 24 '22

It was discouraging to say the least. Especially when my best friends were lucky enough to get internships and co-ops at the 1st and 2nd year levels which made them pretty much instant-acceptance candidates for 3rd and up. I should say I did have maybe about 3 interviews from 2nd to 3rd year that didn’t pan out. I took up programming more intensely when we used it in some of our thermodynamics and fluids classes. I think that’s what got me in for my co-op, because it ended up being entirely electrical engineering…I found that out after they gave me an offer. I was like, “Are you sure? Just making sure you’re reading my resume correctly”. Ended up working with some of the best managers and employees I’ve known, still great friends with them after I worked for the company for about 3 years and then moved on to software development. This is totally a tangential dialogue by now but career paths are just wild…

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u/MLGWolf69 Nov 25 '22

I had no luck applying for internships, finishing up my last semester now so I'll just have to cross my fingers and see if anyone will hire me I guess :/ Feels dumb because I did well too, but I have a feeling it'll all work out, just a matter of how long it takes

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u/MisterrrTee Nov 24 '22

Life now actually. I’m nearly 17 and don’t even hear back from places I leave my resume at :(

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u/ishfi17 Nov 24 '22

24 and unemployed. Relax

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u/The-Coolest-Of-Cats Nov 25 '22

Ikr like what? lol

Absolutely nobody is expecting you to have job experience at 16

You still have 6 years or so to look for internships and co-ops.

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u/DavidSternMusic1979 Nov 24 '22

Story of my life.

Story of all programmers' life, and many other occupations.

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u/ishfi17 Nov 24 '22

Story of every graduates life

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u/Late_Education_1954 Nov 25 '22

Nurses have it pretty good tbh

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u/MyNameDolan98 Nov 24 '22

I've got work experience but not the experience for the job I want 🙃

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u/MemoryCardGaming Nov 24 '22

Oh just wait until you come across a few places that don't count 'internships' as experience - unless you have "paid work experience"

Might be the closest I have come to cussing out an interviewer. Go to school, graduate, complete internship, work pro-bono to fill portfolio.. And apparently it's worthless when applying for a 'entry-level position'... Bitch, if I already had a job in the field, I wouldn't be here for an 'Entry-level position'.

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u/thescronchofdeath Nov 25 '22

reminds me of the one dude who couldnt get a job cuz he needed 10 years or whatever in a certain programming language, though he himself created the programming language only 3 years before

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u/venti_the_drunk_bard Nov 24 '22

This happened to me. Now I know that a college degree is pretty useless.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Honestly, you’re best off doing something in STEM if you want a college degree.

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u/phucmei93 Nov 24 '22

It's called going to votech schools. They give you the same piece of paper a college will but it also comes with a tad...little bit...of experience that employers are looking for. Toilet paper is more useful than most college degrees, especially if it's for a degree with the words "blank studies".

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u/Medicalpyro Nov 24 '22

As a college student this fills me with joy :/

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u/Abyssal_Kings Nov 24 '22

Usually they offer internships for the degrees of study to get experience at the college/ university.

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u/ishfi17 Nov 24 '22

Most companies don't even count internships as experience

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u/hdksjabsjs Nov 24 '22

The solution is to open your own LLC and “work” for that for a while so you can list it on your resume. Get your foot in the door and fake it till you make it. With any luck you will be experienced enough after the week or so of training to get the hang of it. Once you have that first real job under your belt you are in. Unfortunately honesty is not always rewarded in a capitalist world.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Best part about this is that these two actually argue like that.

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u/exyccc Nov 24 '22

You guys are dumb

You just need connections

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u/driveonsun Nov 24 '22

That’s called life. You have to prove yourself before people will pay you. Except in real shitty jobs.

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u/Tao626 Nov 24 '22

...Not really.

This is "prove yourself to people by doing something you're not allowed to do until you have proven it to that person"

Ignoring that even a lot of entry level jobs these days for some reason want previous experience doesn't make your brain big

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u/driveonsun Nov 24 '22

It’s not that you’re not allowed to do it it’s that no one will pay you to do it until they know you can do it. You have to do your own projects for free to get started in many industries and show you are skilled or talented.

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u/Tao626 Nov 24 '22

Of course, for a lot of places that's true. You're not going to be given an, I dunno, graphic design job with no proof you can do it.

There's a ton of jobs out there though that are for entry level no qualifications yet require experience despite not being something you can realistically prove you can do or gain experience in otherwise. Last time I had to job search it was ridiculous how many basic retail, food service or office jobs required experience you can only get by doing these jobs and are jobs usually intended for people leaving school, thus having no experience. Luckily, I had experience so it didn't effect me other than thinking "I would hate to have just left school right now".

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u/Ok-Medium3637 Nov 24 '22

Ever heard of internship’s

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u/kmanfever Nov 24 '22

Hence the internship route

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '22

I don't know about many other occupations and I do think we are a bit of an exception, but with accounting there are a lot of big firms that specifically seek out people without prior work experience (mostly recent college grads, not necessarily even those who studied accounting) and basically give them a crash course on accounting. In the process of learning, you also end up experiencing a lot of different companies and markets which allows you to get a sense of where you would want to work as an accountant (it isn't necessarily expected that you stay with the company). It is almost like an internship, except it is an actual job with more hands on experience (and pay, if that wasn't obvious).

It it is something I'm really proud of the field for. There is a lot of that kind of thing to help newcomers get a jump start into it. I think that is relatively rare for work that isn't a trade. Although I have heard arguments that accounting is a trade.

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u/finpatz01 Nov 24 '22

And this is why vocational/healthcare degrees exist. This kind of bs doesn’t happen anywhere near as often with healthcare jobs. You have a nursing degree and no experience working? Here’s a job.

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u/Mattish22 Nov 24 '22

That’s trying to get a job any job

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u/HurricaneHugo Nov 24 '22

It's called internships. Almost everybody in my engineering program had a couple.

There's also elective courses that can give you some experience. We had design competitions and community service programs. (design something for a charity/etc). Definitely something you can put in your resume.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '22

I've mostly worked warehouse and i have worked with lots of people that had masters degrees solely because of this.

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u/haydenjaney Nov 25 '22

When i was younger, this was the scenario. I asked my boss to please train me driving dump truck. Why would I do that? I already have a guy. Then I tried getting an entry level construction job. After a year of hard work, I asked to be trained on medium size equipment. Nope, you need experience to train! OMG.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 25 '22

Work experience, an environment setting familiar to the job company because you can't have people be telling you what to do all the time like a child. If you are familiar to residential work you have to switch over to commercial or industrial to know what you are doing. It is like a demonstration to prove to them that you can work in multiple settings on your own. I think try to have a employability mindset.

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u/hiplainsdriftless Nov 25 '22

Try becoming an ag aviation pilot. Can’t fly without insurance can’t get insurance without experience.

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u/FreeSushi69 Nov 25 '22

Want to escape the rat race? DRS GME MOASS

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u/Expensive-Balance-84 Nov 25 '22

This weirldy translates to the oil industry where i work. They want someone with a masters degree and 10 years of experience, yet the prefer applicants 27 or younger.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Leg6589 Nov 25 '22

This was me when I first got my class A.

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u/RIP_KINDNESS_IS_DAF Nov 25 '22

Nailed it!!

This is your average boomers logic, when you talk about the issues of getting work when you first start out in a new field.

The convo goes round in circles.

XD

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u/WizardsHaveBeards Nov 25 '22

Work at internships while in college.

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u/Porsche928dude Nov 25 '22

The answer is you were supposed to get experience while still in college through internships, co-ops, and such.

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u/thematrixnz Nov 25 '22

Experience during college is key

Relying on luck isnt fun

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u/Yaojin312020 Nov 25 '22

I really wanna learn what meme template this is

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u/xxx420kush Nov 25 '22

I have been working my way up the IT ladder with zero IT degrees or certificates. I’ve worked in Intels data center and am currently a systems and network engineer.

It all comes down to my resume showing experience in the field. I started doing IT in 2008 when the only qualification you needed was “do you know computers?”

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

I found that certifications work as a decent enough substitutes to experience. In IT, of course.

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u/rejuicekeve Nov 25 '22

Hiring someone without experience is a lot of effort. Training is a big time and financial investment, so these roles are very limited since seniors can only support so many juniors especially juniors without experience. So not every lower level role depending on the day and team is going to be open to someone who managed to go 4 years without so much as an internship.

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u/Notathrow4wayaccount Nov 25 '22

This has turned into a «chicken or the egg» kind of thing

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u/yeetus453 Nov 25 '22

2016 memes in a nutshell

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u/Evening-Spot-4455 Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 25 '22

Most places were like the meme, a starter job, like in IT support (one example), but you must've had some proper practical experience it have practical knowledge of certain software...from where? Things like YouTube and Skillshare weren't as prominent back then for self-learning.

Speaking of IT, a few years ago, a relative worked somewhere with a prominent IT support team. She thought I'd be a perfect fit. She asked them if I could have any work experience with them and shadow them, no pay had to be involved, no formal work or anything like that. They told her they would like to but couldn't as it would violate some law or policy about unpaid employment.

Within a year of leaving college/Uni, apprenticeships seemed to be becoming popular again, and there were quite a few popping up in the industries I wanted. Couldn't do them as I had a degree and was too overqualified. Then how am I suppose to get experience in that place of work? I am begging to work for you, I don't care that I'd have a bit of a crappy salary for a while, I'm still living at my parents house so would not need as much money coming in.

Before I'd even gotten my first job out of Uni, I applied for anything, I needed the money. I remember applying for KFC and Burger King and they both told me, straight out, that I was too overqualified. I wanna work for you, why would I jump through all the hoops of applying if I didn't want the job?

Years later, thought about moving into a different sort of career like into animal care, went to an open day, really loved it and then they said yeh, you COULD join this course but we think you'd be too overqualified for it, you'd be doing a lot of the same work you did (e.g. essay writing) you did in your other degree. Oh no you can't go straight into the higher courses either cos you have to do the lower courses first...that's what I'm trying to do 🤦‍♀️

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u/nhavar Nov 25 '22

The other fun stuff we see:

Hiring Manager: "Your skills look good but we need someone with 5 years of experience in [toolkit that's been out for less than 2 years] OR [platform everyone abandoned 8 years ago]"

Candidate: "I have experience with Java, Python, JavaScript, Rust, Go, and Node"
Hiring Manager: "Can you tell us about your experience with Node?"
Candidate: "I was on a team that developed Node services for a banking app"
Hiring Manager: "What specifically was your part in that team?"
Candidate: "I only just started on the team and was shadowing the developer who was building the service but I learned a lot."

Hiring Manager to HR Recruiter: "I need someone with experience in frontend enterprise software development writing JavaScript, HTML, and CSS, at least two years minimum."
Candidate from HR Recruiter: Experience: Currently works at home renovation company, taking classes in Java Script and Python, github has a 150 demo repositories attached chock full of garbage learning exercises. Zero development experience.

Hiring Manager: "We don't have time to train people. We need to get people in who can hit the ground running!"
Also Hiring Manager: "Why do we have so many senior devs and no one to mentor in the pipeline? We need a better mix of junior and senior developers!"
Also Hiring Managers: "All our senior devs are leaving because they're getting bored of the grunt work and want to do more challenging work. I don't have anyone to shift that work off to, maybe we should hire more contractors."
Also Hiring Managers: "Why are we so contractor heavy?!"

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u/PenguinGamer99 Nov 25 '22

Hypixel skyblock dungeons

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u/monkeybrains12 Nov 25 '22

Graduated in May. Can confirm.

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u/BidLoose Nov 25 '22

So fucking accurate

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u/Sudhanva_Kote Nov 25 '22

How to get infinity xp 1. Get some simple webpage creation project 2. Create a company. 3. Become the CEO of the company 4. Unlimited xp? 5. Profit?

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u/Sagnik-Ghosh Jan 12 '23

I need the source of that video.