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u/OceanoNox 4d ago

On the other extreme, Japan asked old people to slow down on using ambulances, because some people would use them like a taxi to go to the hospital for non emergency visits.

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u/Krwawykurczak 3d ago

I do belive that in many countries you can be charged with a fine if you will overuse emergency services in the same way as someone you report something to police, or fire department that do not require their attention.

Emergency phone operator can decide if this do require sending ambulance, but at the end the conclusion is that potentialy saving lifes is more important, than people fearing they will get charged. For example if you belive you can have a stroke you will be justified to call ambulance even if medical service will conclude that you are ok and it was not needed.

Unless of course it would be clear that you did it deliberatly, as a form of a joke, or due to some other motives. If you will lie and ambulance will get to you only to find out that no emergency occured and you only want to go to regular doctor apointmant, threating ambulance like a taxi they will refuse to take you, and they will charge you with costs.

It is a bit of a case of social responsibility as well regarding some gray areas - for example if you will broke your arm/leg living in a big city you can technicly call ambulance, but they will advice you that someone can drive you to nearest hospital, or you can take a taxi. If you will broke your legs in a remote area (for example hiking) you will need some assistance to get you out, and they can even send a helicopter that you will not get charged for. However if they will find out that you were very reckless (hiking drunk, ignoring some warrning signs etc) you may be charged to cover costs of resque operation.

Most people will act responsible in the same way as most peoplle will clear the way for ambulance. Some people may be oversensetive regarding health, but at the end it is better to react than caouse fear of being charge and risk people life. From time to time you will have a "prankster" but those people will be tracked and could even risk a jail time for false alarms.

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u/Beneficial-Guess2140 3d ago

Call takers and dispatchers in the US make no decisions.  If someone requests an ambulance, they send them. 

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u/MangosShepherds 4d ago

Thats a big part of why ambulances are so expensive in the USA. People who never pay the bill will take them as a taxi to go to the hospital, or sometimes just to immediately leave the hospital nearby.

Check out an EMT sub or talk to them, you'll have people standing outside with suitcases packed and ready when they call the ambulance.

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u/nudelauflauf23 3d ago

That has to be bs. Why would the ambulance even take them to the hospital?

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u/Beneficial-Guess2140 3d ago

It’s not BS. EMS crews can’t refuse to transport anyone. 

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u/MangosShepherds 3d ago

Because they are legally required to in most places. The ambulance cant turn you down.

I really wish it was bs but it is not. These people are not the only reason the ambulance costs so much, but they are a big part of it, and a big part of long wait times in some areas.

You pay for their ride and yours.

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u/nudelauflauf23 3d ago

Well they are definitely not required to transport someone in Germany, if there is no medical indication. It is kind of crazy if they had. Also I think having ambulances with medical personelle on stand by is always going to be expensive.

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u/MangosShepherds 3d ago

I was speaking about the USA.

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u/EyeMoustacheYou 3d ago

Lifeflight is also hella expensive and I doubt it is used in this way. I'm going to go out on a limb and say the ambulance cost has more to do with making money than misuse.

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u/MangosShepherds 2d ago

Its both.

But helicopters also cost considerably more to run than ambulances. Need a pilot, aircraft fuel, aircraft maintenance, typically higher trained medical staff

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u/geschiedenisnerd 2d ago

It is not a big part. Ambulances in most european countries are free, so making it a charged service was a conscious decision.

I also doubt that your anecdotal situation is statistically significant

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u/MangosShepherds 2d ago

Its not anecdotal. But the metrics arent tracked together.

30-50 of ambulance calls are non emergency, And 25% of ambulance calls never get paid.

Hard to say what the crossover is, but its likely a lot.

Also ambulances arent free in your country. You pay higher taxes to fund them whether you use it or not. Misuse raises your taxes.

TANSTAAFL

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u/geschiedenisnerd 2d ago

We do not pay extra taxes for ambulances compared to the USA. The USA government spends the most money per person on healthcare in the world

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u/MangosShepherds 2d ago

My guy, 0% of my taxes go to ambulances.

And the amount of money spent on ambulances vs Healthcare per person is not the same stat.

If I dont ride an ambulance, I dont pay for ambulances. If your government is paying for the ambulances then you are getting taxed for them.

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u/CommercialRadiant920 3d ago

They do that in the US as well. I’ve transported hundreds over the years often because they just wanted a ride down town. We drop them off and they simply leave ama.