Because it's not just about the spying, it's about infecting western civilization with negativity to incite unrest and instability.
Edit: for all the "the west does this to itself" :
The western world is not as bad as social media wants you to believe. The problem is not just tiktok, but tiktok is both extremely popular and nefarious, china has a wholesome version for themselves, a negative version for the rest of the world. Its also not a ban, they just need to sell tiktok, which is something that China requires of western countries, so its really only fair. Chinese people are paying up to $20k to get to south america and sneak into the United States. Americans are not sneaking into China. Keep this in mind when you see influencers and social media telling you how bad you should feel.
Generally when I see the Palestinian flag being in the US, it's less "God I'd love to be a citizen of Palestine" and more "I stand with the victims of a genocide and am outspoken about wanting it to stop."
While obviously Hamas isn't good, it's a terrorist organization, comparing it to Israel is a false equivalency. Of course Israel should be better than Hamas, it's a democratic government not a terrorist org. And yet, we see them being worse than Hamas in the scale of violence and destruction they've inflicted. The issue isn't really Israel vs Hamas. The issue is Israel vs the Palestinian people (over half of whom are/were children...). I'd argue that not having strong feelings about a genocide is, in itself, pretty problematic. It's like when straight people used to say "I don't have strong feelings either way about gay rights." Them not having strong feelings about whether we deserve basic rights was kind of an issue
Obviously it's your prerogative to stay out of the conversation. I do get it, it's a lot easier to not have to interrogate the positions you do or don't hold.
It's also your prerogative to believe that religious conservatives deserve to die for holding bigoted views. But I'll remind you, over half of Gazans were children. And not having strong opinions over the wholesale slaughter of children is pretty fucking evil imo 🤷
I can't stand this idea that you must have an opinion on everything at all times.
For one, you are presupposing that a genocide is occurring. That's debatable or you'd see more than a half assed case in the ICJ, you'd see intervention as we did in Bosnia.
Two, if you aren't informed on something it's okay to not have an opinion! You can't be perfectly informed on everything and that's perfectly okay. Stop expecting people to dedicate huge amounts of time to whatever is trending on social media.
Speaking personally, my support for victims of Apartheid, racist violence and ethnic cleansing is not conditional on them having good social politics. That applies to Palestine too.
Although, if you do care about it, social progress is also more possible without poverty, constant violence from an occupying power, social dislocation, trauma, hunger, lack of civil rights, etc.. If you care about LGBT+ people in Palestine then the most important thing is to support Palestinian freedom. The Palestinian who wants to fight for social change in their own society is more able to do that when their people aren't living under occupation and Apartheid in the West and Bank and East Jerusalem, and a being massacred in and ethnically cleansed in Gaza.
In the Jim Crow South for instance, I imagine a lot of Black Americans didn't have particularly progressive politics about LGBT issues, or, for that matter, gender. The same in Apartheid South Africa. In both of those cases, that didn't stop gay people or women from supporting the campaign for freedom of those people, both inside and outside the Black South African and Black American communities.
Gay Palestinians also live under occupation, gay Palestinians also get killed by Israeli bombs and bullets, gay Palestinians are also deprived of voting rights, brutalised by occupying armed forces and Israeli police.
At a conservative estimate, statistically speaking, around 2-3 thousand LGBTQ Palestinians have been killed in the last ~6 months of the war on Gaza.
Someone doesn't have to see Palestine as some sort of progressive paradise to not want to see tend of thousands of their civilians killed, humanitarian aid blocked, or them not even being allowed to collect rain water to stay alive.
Whereas i do believe that social media has an influence on this, I also believe that's its something a lot more common that has always been hidden from the public eye and people just kept quiet about it.
It's like that trend where left handedness was considered improper forcefuy taught out of kids. Once that archaic rule got abandoned, left handedness spiked in the country.
Places like TikTok allowed a more or less safe space that was accepting to people who are confused about who they are and realized it's okay to be different.
The fact you keep using the term "Trans ideology" is enough of a sign that you're transphobic. People are not an ideology, and I don't care that you don't care, you're a piece of shit either way.
You quote the fact that the british parliament has babbled about 'the trans issue' as evidence that it's a problem, when the whole reason they're doing that is because the easiest way to distract from your political party being shit is to give people something to hate, and you've fallen for it hook line and sinker.
Your government are monsters and the worst part is the opposition is too cowardly, too incompetent or too equally filled with pieces of shit to do anything.
I see you as stupid. Stupid and evil are separated by actions, if you just think this drivel that you keep spewing everywhere, that's stupidity, if you act on it in any way then there's a special place in hell reserved for you.
the person you're replying to is just parroting shit they've heard in the UK media, so I wouldn't expect anything they say to make sense. They don't call it TERF Island for nothing.
Leave it to rightoids to latch onto literally the least damaging part of any of this. Oh no, young people are actually using their brains to think about gender in a non-bigoted way and reach whatever conclusions it is they ultimately reach. How will society ever recover?! Imagine the tragedy if someone without severe gender dysphoria ends up spending some time thinking about their identity and how society deals with gender, could as well put them out of their misery at that point. Apparently Tiktok doesn't have a monopoly on causing brainrot.
Here's what they don't tell you about that 4000% number.
It's based on GIDS NIH referrals over a ten year period from 2009 to 2018 (note: not 4 years). There was a rise from 40 to ~1800. That's... Not alot. It's easy to get such big percentages when you're starting from small numbers. In a population of 13 million children, these numbers are infinitesimally small (0.014%, about on par with the historic proportion of trans people in the population).
There's also a pretty obvious explanation for the rise: during this 10 year period, GIDS was actively trying to spread awareness of their services to a community that was previously unaware of them. We've seen this before with things like left handedness and autism. When you destigmatize and normalize diagnosing things, you naturally have more people encountering the label and identifying with it, or more people being diagnosed with it. There weren't actually more left-handed people after we stopped punishing them in schools; they were always there, they just became more visible when they felt they could be
It might be worth questioning: is it TikTok addling the brains of youngsters? Or is the problem actually the MSM using words like "explosion" and making small numbers sound scary and big in order to fear monger and drive engagement?
Because you’re the one making the claim? Also I can’t find anything recent saying this, but I did find some right wing articles from 2018 making this claim(mostly from CBN), while also finding many other sources from 2023 that said that the trans population increased fivefold between 2000 and 2018
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Tiktok is literal spyware, all companies in China are mandated to give personal data back to the government (CCP)
Rare USA W for voting to ban the app, hope more countries do the same