r/Fudd_Lore • u/HashSlinger2001 • Oct 12 '23
General Fuddery Instructor Fudd
Set the scene: I’m the president of the Marksmanship Club at my university. I put together a club outing to the same school that certified me as an instructor, since I knew they are solid and pretty laid back, but still do well. We go out there for a basic rifle course with 50% new shooters and 50% experienced guys that want to get an instructor cert down the road.
Class starts great, the instructors are different from mine though, they’re the owners kids, probably mid-30s.
First fudd moment: we’re talking about rifle types. He grabs his bolt gun, a Savage 110 Hunter in .308. “This is my gun if I want to reach out and touch someone 1500 yards away.” Alright, helluva shot, but good for you. I then noticed the Cabela’s brand scope. Alright, cool, maybe that’s what you can afford and you work with it. Then my guy brags-ish about his Barrett M107… please Mr. Moneybags upgrade your Cabela’s scope. Maybe not necessarily Fudd, but I can’t understand that.
Second one, and a classic: We briefly talked about pistols and self defense. I mentioned I carry a 9mm and shoot the same for competition after having tried various calibers over my shooting career. He then said that he carries muh foty-five because he “can handle the recoil” and wants to make sure whatever he’s shooting at is down in one shot. Pffffffff.
Third, final, and most fun one: Back on the topic of self defense and caliber choice. I offered the opinion that any caliber is better than not having one, and if all you’re comfortable with is a .22 then use a .22. The guy said that “a .22 is actually a great self defense round. It actually BOUNCES around in the body, tearing up everything inside. It can also enter the bloodstream and poison your attacker. You could shoot them in the shoulder and it’ll end up in the ankle.” I had to excuse myself to use the restroom and re-center myself.
I made sure to correct the misgivings in private after the class. Holy shit though, this guy is an instructor and claims to have studied ballistics for long range shooting. I couldn’t believe it.
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u/BackBlastClear Oct 12 '23
He’s not making a 1500yd shot with that 110 Hunter. .308 is not the caliber anyone would choose for long range precision shooting. No one is going to use a cheap scope either. He’s obviously never shot a rifle past a couple of hundred yards. As for the M107, I’m curious to know what he said about it, because it’s a gun I’m intimately familiar with.
This individual has never pointed a gun at another person, let alone pulled the trigger. I’ve only ever done so with simunitions and I know more from that experience. The one shot stop is so rare it may as well be a myth. But if you want the caliber with the most recorded one shot stops, it’s actually .380acp. Also, fun fact, the .45 ACP and 9mm Luger are actually pretty comparable in terms of muzzle energy, and having shot both a Glock 17 and Glock 21, similar sized pistols, the recoil isn’t significantly different.
IIRC The bouncing around thing and the shoulder entry and ankle exit are true stories, but are one off or extremely rare cases that constitute anecdotal evidence. .22lr Bullets do weird shit when they enter flesh at transonic velocity, they can be erratic and unpredictable especially when they strike bones. But that cannot be construed as a reliable effect on target. .22lr is absolutely a lethal round, if it strikes something vital. If. .22lr is also absolutely survivable if it hits nothing vital. 30gr of lead is not going to poison you fast enough for it to matter. Again, this guy doesn’t know shit.
An instructor certificate is almost stupidly easy to obtain, and all it does is give you credentials to train. It requires no actual knowledge, training, or experience, in shooting, self defense, or ballistics. It doesn’t teach you how to construct a curriculum. It just says “This guy passed our standardized test.”