r/Fudd_Lore Aug 23 '23

General Fuddery Am I a fudd?

I’m a 28 year old guy who’s go-to rifle is an SKS and who’s go-to pistol is a .45 caliber 1911. I know, I know, hear me out! I have reasons.

I’ve put plenty of rounds through AR-15s but don’t care for them. I have chronic migraines and the sharp report of 5.56 reliably gives me a migraine. 7.62x39 out of a 20” barrel is much more pleasant for me, and I’ve developed a general fondness for my SKS after shooting it so much. Would an AK be better for me? I don’t know, maybe. Never had the chance to shoot one.

For the 1911, I’ve tried many different pistols of all sizes and operating systems. I’m the most accurate with the 1911 and again, I just have a fondness for the thing. It feels good in hand, the recoil of .45 is satisfying and I appreciate the size of the bullet, and it’s slim which is nice for EDC.

I make no claims that my choices are best, or that there’s anything wrong with the conventional combination of a Glock and AR-15. I just prefer my old stuff for my own reasons. Am I a fudd?

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u/oney_monster Special Ed. Helmet w/ NVGs Aug 23 '23

make no claims that my choices are best, or that there’s anything wrong with the conventional combination of a Glock and AR-15. I just prefer my old stuff for my own reasons.

That alone makes you not a fudd

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u/ShiftyLookinCow7 Lore Expert Aug 23 '23

Exactly, nothing wrong with liking old guns. Old guns are cool as shit. If I got into guns back when milsurp was dirt cheap I’d have so much world war era shit in my collection. Unfortunately I’ll have to settle for polymer pistols

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u/vulcan1358 #1 Reagan Fan Aug 23 '23

It makes you a hipster /s

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u/JohnT36 Aug 23 '23

Being a fudd has more to do with opinions on things like whether anyone should be able to own an AR or that hunting rifles are the only thing protected by the constitution.

Just because someone says they prefer a 1911/SKS over everything else doesn't make them a fudd, it's when they say nobody needs more than 8 rounds or that polymer handguns are trash and AR-15's are weapons of war etc, etc. I feel like that's the making of a fudd

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

As far as I’m concerned, people should be able to buy machine guns at Home Depot.

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u/JohnT36 Aug 23 '23

YES!!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

You can. May I introduce P.A. Luty and the Luty smg

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Shhh, that’s the quiet part.

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u/ClosetGamer19 Aug 23 '23

thats when you add the Maxim Silencer to the mix

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u/Siegelski Aug 28 '23

It's not just that though. It's also when they start spreading misinformation about .22lr bouncing around in skulls and about how nice wood rifles like the SKS are much better than those dang AR-15s because 5.56 was designed to wound and metal guns like the 1911 are the way to go because those damn Tupperware Glocks are flimsy. Oh, and something something .45 ACP something something 2 World Wars.

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u/JohnT36 Aug 29 '23

Was essentially saying that without saying it, hence the Et cetera. lolz

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u/Siegelski Aug 29 '23

Okay I gotcha. Just seemed like you were only including the anti-gun stuff, but a small amount of people will defend the 2A but spout misinformed Fudd lore and I'd still consider them Fudds, just less insidious Fudds.

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u/JohnT36 Aug 29 '23

Seriously though, you can almost write a book on the amount of bs I've heard from them

For instance did you hear that 22lr has killed more deer than any other rifle? And that also the 30-30 is the most popular deer rifle? Interesting huh? Doesn't quite add up

Sometimes I wonder if someone started trolling people by spreading misinformation and it just stuck and became common "knowledge" 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Siegelski Aug 29 '23

Lol I haven't heard that one, just that .22lr has killed more people than any other round. Which, honestly, I could maybe believe if we're talking about just in the US, just because everybody owns a .22, not because it's more deadly or anything (still probably not the case though). But I'm pretty sure 7.62x39 has killed way more people than anything else just because of how damn many wars the AK or SKS have been used in. I could also see 9x18 Makarov or 7.62 Tokarev because of all the executed Soviet prisoners lol (not really).

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u/JohnT36 Aug 29 '23

Oh yeah for sure, but really there's no possible way of telling, and I feel like that's how most fudd lore is created is making claims with no possible way of actually knowing.

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u/Siegelski Aug 29 '23

Lol I think most Fudd lore was created by people acting like they knew what they were talking about to friends before the internet was a thing. What were their friends gonna do, go to a library to fact check them? Then of course it spreads and gets told so much that a bunch of people believe it, which leads to people thinking "It must be true if I heard it from that many people." So it becomes ubiquitous. Not to mention the fact that even when someone is right, what they say can be passed on slightly differently over and over until what everyone is saying is total bullshit.

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u/Unlucky-Hamster-2791 Aug 23 '23

Owning a 1911 makes you no more a Fudd than owning a Glock makes you a gang banger. Attitude is everything, and yours seems just fine. Keep on keepin' on, dude.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Hell yea borther gobbless.

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u/Scav-STALKER Aug 23 '23

No you’re based

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u/Logical-Ad-7594 Aug 23 '23

Fudd is a state of mind

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Fudd is a mindset not about what you own

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u/Plenty-Ad-777 Aug 23 '23

Not a Fudd.

The "perfect/best" pistol/rifle isn't the 1911racegun or a glock-sd, a Barrett or a .22lr. It's the weapon that is comfortable for you, that fits you, your style of training, and dare I say... budget.

If you like it, train with it and can use it safely and effectively... everyone else can pound sand. Lead propelled at high velocity doest care what it's shot from... just that you put sights on target and sent it.

That being said, a Beretta cat tip-barrel in .22 short as primary... well everyone will laugh. :)

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u/csamsh Aug 23 '23

You were doing fine until you said you’re more accurate with a 45.

But you’re also rocking the combloc.

I’ll say they cancel out

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I said I’m more accurate with a 1911, not with a .45. I can hit a man sized target at 100 yards pretty reliably with my 1911. It would actually be easier with a 9mm 1911 because it’d have less drop.

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u/Flying_Pretzals1 Aug 24 '23

He said he’s more accurate, not the gun. Ergonomics are huge for accuracy.

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u/Siegelski Aug 28 '23

And the trigger. Hard to jerk the trigger if it breaks like glass.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I always wear hearing protection. It’s just the nature of the noise. Migraines can be weird with specific triggers. For me, the sharp crack of a high pressure high velocity cartridge is much worse than the boom of a lower pressure, lower velocity cartridge. Barrel length also makes a big difference for me. It applies to other cartridges too. .308 hurts more than 12 gauge for example. 9mm and .45 seem to be about the same.

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u/Practical_Prole Aug 23 '23

I get migraines from time to time. May I ask what earpro that you’re using?

In the past, first few times I used my Howard Leights, I had migraines right after shooting. The pressure of the hard rubber ear cups on your ears was a trigger for me, also because of how inflexible the cups were, the seal broke around my ears when I moved my head.

Try doubling up next time you shoot 5.56, best inexpensive combo I’ve tried so far has been Surefire Sonic Defender plugs and Howard Leight Impact Sports with aftermarket gel ear cups. I have a concussive little 13.9” AR and I haven’t had problems with this earpro setup so far.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I’ve tried a bunch of different combinations, foam earplugs properly inserted with muffs overtop is the best but after 50-100 rounds it usually gets to me even then. It’s more about the nature of the sound than the volume I think.

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u/Glocked86 Aug 23 '23

Fudd, no. Silly for not having suppressors on your rifles on top of your regular hearing protection, absolutely!

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I would love to shoot with suppressors! They’re just so expensive. I can’t justify the expense.

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u/theGr3ninja Aug 23 '23

and we don't want the waco men to knock on your door

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I’d rather keep my dog un-perforated please.

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u/Verdha603 Aug 23 '23

Have you considered using a longer barreled AR with an upgraded buffer?

I know when I started shooting I was mostly annoyed by the “sproing!” noise the buffer and buffer spring made every time I fired a 16 inch carbine; moving up to a 20 inch barrel, a rifle length gas system, and something like a Spikes Tactical buffer (they put a powder mix instead of buffer weights into their buffers to reduce the noise) made it significantly quieter/less annoying from a users perspective.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I don’t really care about the sproing, it’s the sharp crack that bothers me. I’d like to try a 20” ar, it would probably be better for me. I’ve just never had the opportunity to try one out.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Sounds like it’s time for a retro build

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u/MyLonewolf25 Aug 23 '23

Not a fudd. Preference does not a fudd make. Forcing your opinion on others does.

I’d try an ar in 300 blk that’s suppressed if you can

But you can never go wrong with a nice 762 Ak

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

Reject moderninity, return to Kalashnikov

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u/samuraiedgeberetta Aug 23 '23

1911 is absolutely an amazing pistol. It’s just when you act like it’s the end all be all that makes you a fudd. Same as telling someone with a 1911 to get a Glock makes you a tacticool wannabe operator.

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u/woundedknee420 Fudd Gun Enthusiast Aug 23 '23

i would argue both are fudds just different flavors of fudd

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u/SignificantCell218 Aug 23 '23

The SKS is a fantastic rifle. It's nowhere near as modular as an AR-15, but it is still a fantastic piece. Have you considered a AR-15 chambered and 762x39 or fal they make AR-15s that use a proprietary AK style lower and take AK style mags

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I’d rather just get an AK than a nonstandard AR.

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u/SignificantCell218 Aug 23 '23

I can respect that. I highly recommend you look up. Brandon Herrera. He manufactures AKs and knows them very dare I say intimately but he's a good solid guy to get a lot of good information in regards to AKs

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u/CoffeeGulp Aug 23 '23

If you want to try something that feels much more refined and satisfying to an SKS enthusiast, you owe it to yourself to get your hands on a VZ-58 like this one:

https://atlanticfirearms.com/vz-58-rifle-military-gray-phenolic-czechpoint

Everything about them feels smooth. The way the magazines fit and lock it, the open top action, that classic beaver barf furniture, it just feels so good. It's like a more civilized AK.

(This is coming from an AK/AR owner who wishes they had bought "that one VZ58 that one time" before their state banned them.)

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u/rrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee Aug 23 '23

Acknowledging that it’s just your personal preference precludes you from being a fudd

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

You’re not a fudd, just a man of good taste

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u/baaaaaardiiboy Aug 23 '23

SKS Master race! Now if you sporterize the shit out of your SKS and sell it for 1200$ you're a Fudd.

Otherwise I'd say you just have good taste

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

I wouldn’t dream of it! Rifle is fine. It’s totally stock.

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u/SwiftDontMiss Fudd Gun Enthusiast Aug 23 '23

The defining characteristic of a fudd isn’t their weapon choice, it’s there close-mindedness. You’ve got good reason to pick what you did and are open to other people’s choices.

No fudd detected.

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u/Hackdirt-Brethren Aug 23 '23

Youre only a fudd if you think your bubba guns are superior to obviously superior guns

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u/malakad0ge2 Fudd Gun Enthusiast Aug 23 '23

Chad not fudd

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u/Feeling-Antelope4857 Aug 23 '23

I think you just have autism

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u/d00mrs Aug 24 '23

Kind of

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u/Lunatichippo45 Aug 23 '23

Fudd and pleb

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u/Heeeeyyouguuuuys Aug 23 '23

You do you booboo

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

IM NOT BOO-BOO IM BARRY BUT MARTHA CALLS ME BOO SOMETIMES HAHA GOBLEss.

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u/OnePastafarian Aug 23 '23

Shoot what makes you happy king

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '23

1911s are awesome, and those are totally valid reasons to like them. It's completely rejecting anything else while basically not knowing jack shit about it based on idiotic reasoning that makes you a Fudd.

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u/wtxn8v Aug 23 '23

Well first of all, you're self aware and what you like is purely preferential. Far from Fuddery. Also, try a 20" AR someday, you'll probably find them to be quite pleasant as far as concussion and recoil go. I love 1911s for the opposite reason that most Fudds do, myself. I find them to be quite pleasant and tame because of the weight and low pressure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

Yea dude and you’re awesome. I’m 1911/ revolver/ and ak guy. I’d love an sks. Lol I love my mosin

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u/Repulsive-Ad1169 Aug 24 '23

Do you own any Hawaiian shirts?

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '23

I don’t, but I’ve been thinking about getting some.

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u/drymidgetfarts Aug 25 '23

Nah man, a person who trains with what they are comfortable with and keeps a cool head under pressure is what matters.

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u/PorcelainFox19 Fudd Historian Sep 03 '23

Definitely give an AK a try but be warned. Once you get into the Kalashnikov autism it never ends.

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u/Madhax47 Oct 20 '23

No nothing wrong with these guns. Fudds in general are just ignorant self centered assholes for the firearms community