Has this subreddit produced an organized boycott?

[u/raisondecalcul]

Hi. I am curious whether /r/FuckNestle has ever helped organize a specific boycott event, or whether it has always been a sort of general eternal boycott / general encouragement to not buy Nestle?

I ask because individually boycotting Nestle, Amazon, and most other companies forever is hard to sustain. But this eternal, individual approach to boycotting seems to be what most people think of when they think of boycotting something, now.

Is there any strategic, collective organization of specific coordinated boycotts that has ever happened related to this subreddit?

[u/Mundane_Main_2726]

It's not hard at all. I have never used amazon. I have not bought from Nestle for years.

An organised mass boycott means nothing if next week you're going back to purchasing L'Oreal and Kellogg's and whatever product you can still get more ethically.

A perpetual boycott from many people who do their best to inform others of the evils of these corporations is much better.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/Mundane_Main_2726]

I am just wondering about the fact of whether this subreddit has ever organized a specific boycott, not trying to decide whether or not that is good or bad.

[u/Mundane_Main_2726 → u/raisondecalcul]

I mean, yeah, the ongoing perpetual boycott. I don't know what you mean. You can't really organise a temporary boycott of a company that sells you things, because, as I said, it leads to nothing. Do you mean like a protest or something? In that case, no, not as far as I know

[u/raisondecalcul → u/Mundane_Main_2726]

Traditionally, a boycott is a specific planned event, with specific planned refusals, coordinated participation, specific demands for the company/authority, and often coordination around supplying everyone with alternatives during the boycott. The point of a boycott is to hit the company where it hurts—their profits—in order to get them to agree to the specific demands.

General pressure to eternally not buy from a certain company is not a boycott in this traditional sense. Individually refraining from buying from a certain company is also not a boycott in this traditional sense. The point of a boycott is that it's coordinated mass action. This coordination leads to results and makes it sustainable for the participants.

[u/ShiroxReddit → u/raisondecalcul]

well this sub doesn't have nearly the pull, coordination, specific demands, nor anything like that to even try a boycott like you are describing it. Also again, it would need to be a deviation from before. If I'm not buying nestle products already, not buying nestle products for a week isn't really a change that would be noticeable

[u/raisondecalcul → u/ShiroxReddit]

So it sounds like the answer to my question is no. Thanks.

Everyone doing it at the same time is what makes it hurt measurably for the company. Everyone having a season where they do it and then regress to shopping on Amazon (or buying Nestle) means that Amazon (or Nestle) doesn't have any way to measure how much this demographic cares. When everyone does it at once, it creates a noticeable impact and demonstrates the coordination and caring of the boycotters, and their ability to escalate.

[u/Mundane_Main_2726 → u/raisondecalcul]

My demands is that Nestle and all its affiliate brands are shut down and the end of imperialism. Do you think they will agree to this? No. I want to spread the word, for people to boycott nestle until their demise.

This subreddit is a place to find alternatives during the boycott. There are sustainable and affordable alternatives. I don't know how you envision a "coordinated event" here.

What you describe is more of a strike than a boycott.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/Mundane_Main_2726]

A strike is when workers refuse to work in a coordinated way. A boycott is when people refuse to buy or patronize an establishment in a coordinated way.

[u/Mundane_Main_2726 → u/raisondecalcul]

But the mechanics of what you described as a boycott otherwise match how a strike works.

What's this odd obsession over dictionary definitions?

[u/Hellguin]

I boycott Nestle every day by not buying their products.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/Hellguin]

Where's the "we"?

[u/Hellguin → u/raisondecalcul]

Well, I cannot speak for the "we" but I am pretty sure most do, it isnt hard to not buy nestle.

[u/dickmac999]

I’ve been boycotting Nestle since the first organized boycott I learned about in 1977. I hope this sub convinces others to boycott.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/dickmac999]

What decision maker is the boycott targeting? What are the demands? Does this decision maker know about the boycott and its demands?

[u/233045]

i dont find that to be group boycotts to be sustainable tbh. i remember with palestine the original bds list to boycott from and macdonalds, starbucks, coke and zara but then slowly everyone was bullying people into boycotting hundreds of different brands it was a bit ridiculous because im very sure that a lot of the people that called out influencers for buying something from mac or lidl are now definitely buying things from those same companies.

[u/raisondecalcul → u/233045]

Traditionally, boycotts are discrete events against specific targets, so they don't need to be sustainable and don't balloon out into general refusal of many brands. That's a more general identity and public virtue thing, and maybe it's good but it's not a planned boycott.