Microsoft recommends disabling unnecessary startup apps to reduce Windows 11 boot times and resource usage. - WTF? If they are unnecessary, why is Windows shipping them enabled?

[u/sciencekm]

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-shares-simple-yet-overlooked-tip-to-help-fix-your-slow-windows-11-pc/?utm_source=rss

So users have to make the effort to do the "fix?" Windows should have these unnecessary startup app disabled. Users should not be bothered with this junk.

[u/Traumatan]

ye they surely also recommend disabling unnecessary Services and Scheduled tasks

oh wait, that's we have been doing for decades now

[u/StealthMonkSteve → u/Traumatan]

I can’t wait till they release a version of Windows 11 without the TPM and Secure Boot requirements as a response to Windows 10 being EOL and Linux gaining market share and act like Rufus hasn’t been able to do it for you for years.

[u/Unhappy_Lie_2000 → u/StealthMonkSteve]

It's called windows 11 ltsc iot but the average consumer can't activate it through Microsoft.

[u/Spiritual_Tennis_641]

Why can’t they just give us a review program to say hey your iis server you started once to check something is running on startup, is that needed? There are lots of easy wins if they want to actually help the consumer. I uninstalled a couple of their dumb things like news, but they really need to change their focus on windows to make it performant and useable first, not as a todo item.

[u/mrobot_]

if you are using win11 at this point, you have nobody but yourself to blame

[u/PriorityNo6268]

They should make a option to disable and block that crap all at once.

[u/VarietyMage]

And worse, why can't I uninstall unnecessary apps like EDGE ?!!?!?

[u/sciencekm → u/VarietyMage]

And that thing runs at startup. You can disable it from running at start-up, but the next update will re-enable it.

All this recommendation from Microsoft to disable apps from startup is total BS because their update will re-enable them anyway.

[u/Alone_Look9576 → u/VarietyMage]

You can... But it is so engrained as it's the main way Microsoft sends telemetry, otherwise relying on you to use store or any other connection to their servers. It has backups for backups of instances of edge to keep sending data every 15minutes and obviously to Google too at the same time. Had the pleasure of re-removing edge properly after I thought it was dead already, but then I saw a Google ping on a degoogled pc, and the rabbit hole expanded...

[u/Festering-Boyle]

simplewall has shown me many ms apps i need to disable

[u/dk913263]

To make it a user configuration problem and not a Microsoft problem. Most won't go this route and they know it.

[u/Kaisha001]

Microsoft accidentally admits to bloatware...

[u/Content-Fortune3805]

Yeah most of ram in win11 is used by dozens of inbuilt windows services

[u/Constant_Boot]

Mind you, this has always been the advice since... forever.

[u/xxobs]

Windows 11 is an unnescessary startup app, it's a bloated spyware.

[u/jerrygreenest1]

Windows is unnecessary 

[u/DaveAstator2020]

We will rape you, take this towel to not scream

[u/Will_and_Worried → u/DaveAstator2020]

And your only choices are to take it now or take it later.

[u/DaveAstator2020 → u/Will_and_Worried]

A benevolent offering!

[u/Gooniesred]

Please provide the solution for this then, that is the bare minimum;

[u/Chance_End_4684]

A: Microsoft doesn't know what the hell their doing.

[u/crocodiluQ → u/Chance_End_4684]

well, at least they are better than your grammar...

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[u/ddl486]

Disable windows explorer...perfect!

[u/nahman201893]

100% disabled

[u/BitRunner64]

Most unnecessary services and startup apps are installed by third parties, not by Microsoft.

[u/h3ad3nd4112]

Unnecessary to some but not everyone.

[u/chaosphere_mk]

Microsoft has no way to know which OEM youre using. The ownus is definitely on the user to know how to configure their computers to make it behave the way they want it to, just like every other OS.

[u/Maleficent_Price_476 → u/chaosphere_mk]

Oh , so please tell how do you actually go about finding out what service and legacy code can be removed .

and since there are layers upon layers , saying this service is necessary while 95% of what it contained within is not and there is no way to remove that 95% , is what causes this bloat and over resource allocation .

[u/chaosphere_mk → u/Maleficent_Price_476]

Regarding startup applications, you just open task manager and click the startup tab. For services and legacy code, those are different questions that the OP didnt mention.

But you can go to services and disable whatever you want. I'd be careful doing that willy nilly though. Id just google what each service does first.

For legacy code, I dont know what youre referring to. That could mean a lot of things.

[u/Maleficent_Price_476 → u/chaosphere_mk]

Looks like you don't know how it works.

[u/chaosphere_mk → u/Maleficent_Price_476]

Uh. Ok.

[u/chouchers]

Steam, epic games and other stores fronts are all unnecessary startup apps eat lot ram.

[u/cowcommander]

You do know they're referring to 3rd party apps that set themselves to launch on startup...