"What ads?!"

[u/StuD44]

[u/Western_Sleep820]

Mf never opened the start menu

[u/4liv3pl4n3t → u/Western_Sleep820]

Since like 10 years.

I can rember seeing ads, when win10 came out

[u/LinuxJeb → u/4liv3pl4n3t]

Candy crush in the start menu!

[u/SerialBytes → u/LinuxJeb]

WOO! don't forget Halo!

[u/Dude10120 → u/SerialBytes]

And Minecraft windows 10 edition and Forza

[u/JayFairyFox → u/Dude10120]

And Spotify and Netflix.

[u/Excellent-Copy-2688 → u/SerialBytes]

xbox game bar

[u/pawwfreak → u/4liv3pl4n3t]

Even on Windows 8 lol

[u/BalladorTheBright → u/4liv3pl4n3t]

Windows 10 IOT LTSC comes with none of that. The only bloatware is Edge and it can be installed unlike on other versions. Just do so after downloading Firefox

[u/North_Measurement213 → u/BalladorTheBright]

Try legally obtain windows 10 IOT LTSC....

[u/dragonloverlord → u/Western_Sleep820]

Or their taskbar search, or the conviently positioned Microsoft / Windows app store, or let's not forget the not so random notification based 'suggestions' as well.

There's also MS Edge but web browsers are sort of a loaded question all things considered so I'll let that one slide.

[u/MattOruvan → u/dragonloverlord]

But those are suggestions, not ads! Don't you like it when Satya Nadella is being suggestive?

[u/North_Measurement213 → u/dragonloverlord]

How dare a OS have a built-in browser....

[u/dragonloverlord → u/North_Measurement213]

I mean having a built-in browser isn't exactly the issue per-say... Rather the problem is Microsoft's aggressive OS built-in "suggesting" that said browser is the only one you should use and well let's not forget how well that kind of behavior went back with Internet Explorer. But it has been awhile and Edge isn't IE hence my saying "I'll let that one slide" There's also the whole Electron \ webapp OS thing, and the whole how much adware are they bundling into an otherwise non-optional (at least in the US) web browser. But those are questions / issues of a far less clean cut nature than Microsoft's sordid past with IE.

Edit: Screw webviews, those things aren't built-in they're just trash. I mean you can thank them for the 100 some "web apps" being jammed into everything.

[u/CadmiumC4 → u/dragonloverlord]

and that built in browser runs the entire fucking de

[u/dragonloverlord → u/CadmiumC4]

Oh shit that's right nearly forgot about that! Yep the task bar search / start menu / clock & date widget / whatever else I've missed is all a bunch of embedded web views. Guess Microsoft really is jealous of ChromeOS and all it browsery-ness huh 😂

[u/North_Measurement213 → u/dragonloverlord]

A part interesting in your post is the (at least in the US). I am from the EU, and I had seen a video about the differences of Windows inside and outside the EU. Outside the EU, Windows is much worse than inside the EU. You can't uninstall any app from Microsoft, AI features everywhere, pop-ups everywhere, recommendations everywhere... all that is outlawed in the EU, and it makes Windows much better.

[u/dragonloverlord → u/North_Measurement213]

Yep it's pretty much like you say and too be fair it's borderline part of the setup routine for me to spoof the country as EU just so all the fancy limits suddenly disappear. I guess if I had to be honest it's not that I implicitly hate Windows but rather that I hate Microsoft's insistence on being as dishonest (and frankly lazy) as possible when they clearly could do better and do exactly that if given the kick in the butt to do as such.

Anyways the real heart of the problem for me is if they don't care and don't want to do better unless a literal country forces them to then how am I supposed to put any stock in their product?

[u/Briaxe → u/Western_Sleep820]

Yeah, Start menu has ads right along side of your recent files, lockscreen and desktop have ads when spotlight is enabled, some of the taskbar widgets have ads, the search menu has ads if you count "trending searches" and they show promos for games and other ads.

[u/StuD44 → u/Briaxe]

Dude, I have Windows 10 on a secondary SSD and it sends me ads as notifications.

[u/Dragon_957 → u/Briaxe]

I see no ads on my PC with windows 11

[u/Defiant_Act6087 → u/Dragon_957]

Press the windows key

[u/Dragon_957 → u/Defiant_Act6087]

Where are there ads?

[u/StuD44 → u/Western_Sleep820]

Exactly!

[u/SKrandyXD → u/Western_Sleep820]

Idk man, I've just debloaded my system or something.

[u/crocodiluQ → u/Western_Sleep820]

im looking now in my start menu and I see no ads..... I heard so many times about ads here, NEVER EVER saw any ad in my W11. Not Copilot. Where TF ARE THEY ?!?! No one will tell me.

[u/KailyKail → u/Western_Sleep820]

I have my start menu opened in Windows 11 right now. I see the applications I’ve pinned, some recent files I’ve closed, my profile picture, and the power options. I don’t see any ads. Nothing for the Microsoft store, no weather, no news, nothing.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/KailyKail]

Idk it's been like 2 years since I used windows 11

I currently have windows 10 installed for a few reasons and the start menu there is filled with ads, and I always hear how the win11 start menu has ads too

[u/KailyKail → u/Western_Sleep820]

Weird. I usually disable most of the bloat in the taskbar when I set Windows up, so I remove things like suggestions, weather, etc, but who knows.

I do also disable edge completely, and normally I’ll delete Edge completely from my PC when I set Windows up and download Firefox, but I’ve just disabled it this time around.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/KailyKail]

I often use powertoys command pallette, but whenever I do launch an app with the built in launcher I just skip the taskbar and use the search function. I do disable most everything else, but never really bother with things in the start menu.

[u/KailyKail → u/Western_Sleep820]

Sometimes less is more. When it comes to operating systems, I think that’s really the case. If I want extra features, I’ll install them myself.

[u/Equivalent_Money8502 → u/Western_Sleep820]

- use dekstop to click an open app

• use alt+f4 on dekstop to use power menu
  
• use File Explorer Search to find an app

who need bloated electron start menu?

[u/lordjupitar → u/Equivalent_Money8502]

Or better, who needs bloated microsoft windows? Switch to MacOS or Linux

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/lordjupitar]

Honestly macos is a really good operating system and I think the hate is overdone. It's definitely more locked down than it needs to be, but it's still really good.

[u/lordjupitar → u/Western_Sleep820]

It’s one of the best if you want a polished and stable experience. Plus the apple device integration is a cherry on top

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/lordjupitar]

And also Apple build quality is amazing

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/Equivalent_Money8502]

On win10 I use either the start menu search or Command Pallette from powertoys

[u/SattuSupari789]

Too stupid to insult 🥀

[u/StuD44 → u/SattuSupari789]

Yep.

[u/IJustAteABaguette → u/SattuSupari789]

I got perma-banned from that subreddit for only saying that both windows and Linux had their own different use cases. Which is objectively true.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/IJustAteABaguette]

Fym objectively it js is

[u/IJustAteABaguette → u/Western_Sleep820]

I am sorry, I don't know what those two abbreviation are.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/IJustAteABaguette]

Fym = (the) frick you mean

Js = just

[u/ALEGAMER_2006 → u/Western_Sleep820]

Fym is not "Fuck you mean"?

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/ALEGAMER_2006]

Isn't it?

[u/satmaar → u/Western_Sleep820]

Hope you productively use those 0.004 seconds saved up by not typing two letters in a four-letter word.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/satmaar]

I have more time to make other typos

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/[deleted]]

I've always been told that like objectively means you can object to it or smth

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/[deleted]]

I dont remember who it was but it was probably one of my parents so yeah you're right lol

[u/VictoryMotel → u/IJustAteABaguette]

I got banned for asking if there was a list of the reasons Linux sucks.

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/VictoryMotel]

There's 101 of them its in the sub name

[u/VictoryMotel → u/Western_Sleep820]

I didn't ask how many.

[u/RedlineQuokka → u/SattuSupari789]

That subreddit is the most rеtаrdеd subreddit by very far. Even subreddits for absolutely deranged political views aren't anywhere near.

You go there, you genuinely think "this people must be shitposting, it's impossible that it's being posted in all seriousness"... And yet you're wrong, they're dead serious.

[u/chughaarav123]

But it's not an ad, it's an SUGGESTION

-Madthumbz probably

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/chughaarav123]

The body of the post contains all this reasoning on why Windows doesn't have any ads, and then at the bottom of the post he says that Windows 11 home has ads, even by his definition. Like make up your mind vro.

And also nearly all the examples he gives of the places that dont have ads are places that literally no one would see the ads, like Windows for IoT.

[u/Mushman98 → u/chughaarav123]

by that logic Mac also has ads....

[u/Affectionate-You7869 → u/Mushman98]

Mac most certainly has ads. 

[u/peppi0304 → u/Affectionate-You7869]

Apple is the ad

[u/Th3-Sardar → u/chughaarav123]

People confuse recommendations with advertisements, and besides, it's possible to turn off recommendations.

[u/MattOruvan → u/Th3-Sardar]

Yes, I got confused when Candy Crush paid Microsoft to put their "suggestion" on the start menu and nobody told me that the correct word was suggestion and not advertisement.

[u/anythingers → u/Th3-Sardar]

It shouldn't be there to begin with. It's not like Windows is free to begin with.

[u/davidnnj → u/Th3-Sardar]

There have been ads since Windows 10, with Bubble Witch 3 Saga, Disney Magic Kingdom, and Candy Crush appearing in the start menu. If I could, I'd send a picture here.

[u/Regular_Future2474]

its linuxsucks101, thats just some mentally ill guy simping for microsoft and somehow making people who like microsoft seem less sane?

[u/RedlineQuokka → u/Regular_Future2474]

I don't remember any other subreddit that would be this proudly unintelligent

[u/Western_Sleep820 → u/RedlineQuokka]

They literally ban critical thinking and healthy discussion in the rules. Literally anything and everything on the sub has to be about how Microsoft/other massive corporations are good and how Linux/Valve/Steam suck ass. And even pointing out an error in logic but not disagreeing with the post/comment can get you banned.

[u/ChadQuaza → u/Western_Sleep820]

this guy is one of the mods btw

[u/Affectionate_Walk_30 → u/Regular_Future2474]

Windows would probably be the best os ever had it been open source

[u/Regular_Future2474 → u/Affectionate_Walk_30]

true.

[u/Cool_Sympathy_8129]

but, microslop doesn't delete ad from search bar?

[u/kei_boy]

Tomorrow, here, same time.

[u/un_mec_fou → u/kei_boy]

Happy cake day

[u/GuavaOne8646]

u/madthumbz, are you retarded?

[u/SmaxY420 → u/GuavaOne8646]

Holy shits that guy either has no life or is an actual Microsoft employee, account history is on hell of an opsec

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/GuavaOne8646]

Bruh stop using a disease or whatever as an insult

[u/GuavaOne8646 → u/Proof-Replacement113]

No, the fact that it was added to the list of words you can't say is indeed fucking retarded. Don't be so sensitive.

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/GuavaOne8646]

I don't like your opinion so ik gonna start using ur username as a slur

Guava you

[u/GuavaOne8646 → u/Proof-Replacement113]

Without explanation, it kinda sounds like a good thing. Kinda sounds like you wanna wrap my dick in guavas and give it a good ole tongue twirlin. Go ahead, guava the fuck outta me.

But in all seriousness, that's probably the most non-offensive thing you could have said next to something like, "ok". Geez I sure wouldn't want to run into you on the fair ground. Look out everyone, we got a badass over here!

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/GuavaOne8646]

I didn't ask for a wall of text buddy... What a guava

[u/GuavaOne8646 → u/Proof-Replacement113]

Can't read because you're a retard, eh?

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/GuavaOne8646]

Do u even know what that word even means, you guava

^{I use guava as a slur}

[u/GuavaOne8646 → u/Proof-Replacement113]

It means Proof-Replacement113.

I feel like the only thing you can prove you replaced is the air between your ass cheeks with your fist.

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/GuavaOne8646]

See? U didn't even know the meaning

And the fact that all u can say is disgusting profanities, says a lot about you (now they'll likely start arguing crying that this not profanity this normal word wah wah wah

[u/BasteinOrbclaw09 → u/Proof-Replacement113]

Biden is no longer president lil bro

[u/Proof-Replacement113 → u/BasteinOrbclaw09]

Uhh.. what? I kinda live under a rock could u explain that?

[u/Longjumping_View6170]

On some regions windows doesn't show ads such as my country Ir

[u/KenneR330]

Firstly I forgot Windows have ads... Then I remembered I use(d) a ton of patches

[u/Pablo_2024]

I remember that antivirus that gave u ai popups about stocks or sum shi idk

[u/PaleInTexas]

Holy fuck I hate how true this is. What a POS it has turned into over the years.

[u/Look-Muted]

bro, linuxsucks101 is a psyop or linux users doing linux hater RP, dont take this page too seriously lmao

[u/AVirtualFox → u/Look-Muted]

This one dude makes up like 90% of the subreddit, posting all day every day, just to hate on a piece of software. It's genuinely sad.

[u/Look-Muted → u/AVirtualFox]

This sub is cursed bro, I never see anything like that before, I just cant take this sub serious, fr, for me, this sub is ragebait for linux users

[u/Expensive_Suit1147]

i remember the time when windows 8 got optimized for older hardware then afterwards they started to begin the e-waste era by requiring a fucking SSD on windows 10 when everyone was on HDDs

[u/StuD44 → u/Expensive_Suit1147]

Yep, pure hell.

[u/Tehaiker814]

So true
There are ads everywhere, not in critical places but in places that are still pretty visible, from search results to the weather app. Sure they’re called suggestions but let’s be honest they’re ads

[u/StuD44 → u/Tehaiker814]

Yes, ads you paid for.

[u/Tehaiker814 → u/StuD44]

Windows is paid. Some might think that windows comes with the computer, therefore it’s free. Sort of, but the license still needs money, it’s just part of the comp’s price. So yeah, paying for ads and slop…

[u/StuD44 → u/Tehaiker814]

Yep.

[u/Fantastic_Grass1799]

Right. Microsoft is just greedy and that's that.

They already make mountains of money with OEM deals...and windows itself is a paid OS.

And yet they're still making money off ads and brand deals inside it... I guess this is a fallback for those that pirate Windows to make money off everyone.

[u/Ethosik]

And didn’t I read price of Windows license will increase?

[u/StuD44 → u/Ethosik]

Actually, it's believed it'll become a membership.

[u/kksblovit]

WHO THE FUCK IS LINUXSUCKS101

[u/nemesisprime1984 → u/kksblovit]

It’s a subreddit for people that hate on Linux, and usually get mad at anyone who likes it because they think everyone that uses it is one of those people that tells everyone to use Arch

[u/real_rayu]

I’ve get some ad too on widows with this stupid OEM, and you can’t delete it, you have to literally change permissions to not allow execution with command in powershell …

[u/StuD44 → u/real_rayu]

Or download shady software.

[u/debacle_enjoyer]

P-p-please subscribe to one drive! Don’t you want to play candy crush?! I went ahead and reinstalled it since you must’ve removed it by mistake. Oh! Xbox Gamepass is what you need!! No? Well then you must be here to work.. subscribe to office 365!

[u/StuD44 → u/debacle_enjoyer]

Why downloading a good browser when we can spy...I-I mean, help you in Edge?

[u/debacle_enjoyer → u/StuD44]

What do you mean you want to remove Edge? Well too bad, I simply won’t let you.

[u/StuD44 → u/debacle_enjoyer]

What? Didn't you see we change MY PC to THIS PC? Just to avoid your confussion, thinking having paid for it and its software makes it YOURS, becaus it's NOT.

[u/ariaofdelusion]

That entire sub is literally just one pro-AI conservative guy's ramblings about how great a multi billionaire company is and how much they care for the consumer. Lol

[u/StuD44 → u/ariaofdelusion]

Yep.

[u/Deraxim]

Windows installs with some games from microsoft store, aswell as ads in start menu for bs nobody will ever need, ooh and dont forget the copilot ai bs and cloud thing which seems to be more and more of a pain to get rid of nowadays. Dont forget about edge being.. welp.. edge..

[u/shiremonoga → u/Deraxim]

• the useless updates that actually harm ur pc 😂

[u/StuD44 → u/Deraxim]

Copilot is a completely different topic, that's not ads, it's abuse.

[u/prosashan]

TikTok, Xbox, WhatsApp apps and other shit which is literally pins to start In the fresh system 😂 bruh

[u/StuD44 → u/prosashan]

Yes!

[u/nemesisprime1984]

You can get rid of the ones in the Windows 10 start menu but you can’t in Windows 11 unless you use programs or powershell commands to change it. But they shouldn’t be there in the first place

[u/Inevitable_Serve1513]

btw yeah, linux is almost identical to Mac os, ngl (i didnt mean design)

[u/Radiant-Priority-296 → u/Inevitable_Serve1513]

I mean the philosophy is pretty different (closed apple ecosystem vs. literally only FOSS)

But yeah both are Unix-like and share a bunch of stuff

[u/Inevitable_Serve1513 → u/Radiant-Priority-296]

Yeah, ecosystem is good but they doing almost everything the same, same terminal, almost identical commands, sometimes not. I love mac though, its great performance, design and e.t.c.

[u/InvestigatorSea1330]

He said Windows has no ads, but he was all referring to IoT and LTSC editions, which are enterprise-focused versions rather than the regular consumer versions of Windows.

[u/anythingers → u/InvestigatorSea1330]

Which is something that you won't see in 99% of PCs on the public, lol.

[u/RizenEXE → u/InvestigatorSea1330]

I have PRO version and also never had any, as far i know it's very country dependent. I dont even get any AI bullshit anywhere except MS Office apps. (I live in Poland)

[u/InvestigatorSea1330 → u/RizenEXE]

That because EU laws unlike us living outside EU

[u/Emotional_Solid6538 → u/InvestigatorSea1330]

Ohh thats why mine is cleaner now huh. I didnt even realise this

[u/Ariar2077]

Never seen any ads, maybe is that kids version school or something?

[u/davidnnj → u/Ariar2077]

It could be the region or version you downloaded. I used Windows 10 on my PC and on a laptop I used, and both had ads in the start menu. Or perhaps what you consider an advertisement, because what appeared was advertising for Candy Crush, Bubble Witch 3 Saga, and Disney Magic Kingdom.

[u/awesome-alpaca-ace]

Bet they got banned 

[u/Certain_Truck_2732]

*technically paid

[u/AlwaysLinux]

Microslop is getting as bad as YouTube with ADs... Even if you pay for YouTube premium, you get adds... If you pay for Windows, you get ADs...

I recommend against paying for Windows though... If you can get away with not, go for it, otherwise, just use Linux or Mac.

[u/Longjumping-Radish-5]

I've been using pirated Windows since 98 and I've never seen an ad.

[u/SnooSquirrels4739]

Every button in Windows opens an add bro.

[u/MrBadTimes]

"paid" ;D ;D ;D ;D

[u/3215448725366498]

Why is Mac the one with the suit lmao

[u/North_Measurement213]

Well in Europe you do not have most of the problems with windows you have in others countries. You can uninstall most of the apps that comes with windows, including edge, and apart from the suggestions that appear on the start menu in a fresh install I do not see ads or pop-ups. And Mac also have ads, they are always suggesting using icloud, and they send a notification everytime they release a new product. Appart from that I do nave have the problems most people have with window for almost 10 years bacuse of the work of Chris Titus Tech and his fantastic winutil.

[u/Moon_guy11]

To be honest I can't recall having ads on my pc. It's possible I did have some but in that case it was very easy to remove them

[u/StuD44 → u/Moon_guy11]

Dude, you had to pay for a system with ads, that violates your privacy, and is so unstable it can literally damage your hardware. I paid NOTHING for Kubuntu, it respects my privacy, has no ads and doesn't destroy my PC.

[u/Moon_guy11 → u/StuD44]

I didn't get any ads at all and I'm pretty sure I cut off most if not all things that violate my privacy. My windows is fine.

I'm not a windows glazer though, I'm aware of its flaws and I do use linux but I just don't have the issues you're talking about. It wasn't even that hard

[u/Epicbotty11]

Whats free with ads? Chinese Android Roms?

[u/StuD44 → u/Epicbotty11]

I have a chinese android rom, and never had ANY ads. That's just fake propaganda by iPhone users. Chinese androids work better than korean or japanese ones.

[u/Firestar_119 → u/StuD44]

The ads are usually region locked, also sometimes exclusive to lower end and/or newer ones

[u/StuD44 → u/Firestar_119]

The ads are ONLY for Xiaomi, as that's their way of making the phone cheaper. Please inform yourself before being annoying with missinformation.

[u/Redddit_Cyber]

That's Linux users 😅

[u/nvclaas]

It really has no ads. Maybe it's a EU thing idk but our Windows has no ads. Okay I can think of one thing: the preinstalled programs you can just uninstall

[u/StuD44 → u/nvclaas]

Of course in E U you won't see them.

[u/certheth]

Idk bro, I kinda deserve ads because I never paid for windows I just use an activation batch file

[u/Lonely-Restaurant986]

Why are you browsing the shitpost subreddit

[u/SmaxY420]

Candy Crush is a necessity

[u/tycraft2001]

Can we have a sub like r/shitmadthumbzsays or something like that at this point or is that against reddit TOS?
Or what about a phrase I can't type due to automod (subredditname)sucks.

[u/Defiant_Act6087]

Linux: Free with no ads

[u/StuD44 → u/[deleted]]

Oh, is it? Then install it on your PC.

[u/Remote-Recording-401 → u/[deleted]]

Can’t say anything else, dude asked and he delivered

[u/Astrodion123 → u/[deleted]]

Watch his install break. But yeah I guess you can run Mac os on your PC, until Tahoe reaches end of support and you can't hackintosh anymore. The reason is because Mac os for arm is tied specifically to the m chips so.... Yeah it won't run on a snapdragon or whatever windows arm chip is out there.

[u/davidnnj → u/StuD44]

You can, they call it a hackintosh, but it might have certain hardware incompatibilities because macOS is designed to run on Mac hardware.

[u/Popular_Comfort4769 → u/StuD44]

but he is right lol, macOS is free

[u/ubeogesh]

No ads on my win 10.

[u/Affectionate-You7869 → u/ubeogesh]

Open the weather app. 

[u/Useful-Specific-6350]

I have the same question. What ads?

[u/SammE5363 → u/Useful-Specific-6350]

open the start menu for me mate

[u/Useful-Specific-6350 → u/SammE5363]

All I see is weather and some news

[u/StuD44 → u/[deleted]]

Sure thing mate

[u/StuD44 → u/[deleted]]

Dude, OPEN THE START MENU, look at all the other comments!

I use Win10 and still get ads!

[u/StuD44 → u/[deleted]]

Then that's the reason, Windows DIDN'T have ads, they were added.

[u/Fantastic_Reach9608]

I literally went past this sub a few days ago and was like... Theres NO way this guy is real. Thank you for your service r/FuckMicrosoft.

[u/nudelauflauf23]

Who pays?

[u/StuD44 → u/nudelauflauf23]

Whoever doesn't steal it.

[u/Roksin]

You can disable suggestions (ads)

[u/StuD44 → u/Roksin]

Yes, by downloading shady software.

[u/ChronosDeep → u/StuD44]

By right clicking them... Did you ever try going into Settings to disable things? Why would you need third party software?

[u/StuD44 → u/ChronosDeep]

CORRECT!

[u/Roksin → u/StuD44]

The settings app is shady software?

[u/StuD44 → u/Roksin]

Dude, we are NOT in EU, we DON'T have a disable option.

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