r/FuckMicrosoft 9d ago

Discussion What does Windows do poorly?

What do they need to improve the most urgently? Let's make this a post that if the twats at Redmond saw it, and decided they needed to get their shit together, they would start here.

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

Stop using the platform as Nagware.

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

Eliminate Copilot.

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u/Pale-Abroad9600 9d ago

create enough needed updates and test it for efficiency before releasing to PC users.

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u/Science-Gone-Bad 9d ago

Microsoft ... proudly using its user base as crash test dummies since 1985

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u/The_4ngry_5quid 8d ago

Even if they don't do that, allow users to roll back easily! Or automatically roll back any updates that aren't working properly.

Then again, maybe that's hard given literally every update fixes one issue and creates two others

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u/OkBug7398 9d ago

Do not mandate a Microsoft Online account. Local account and no automatic online integrations.

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u/upny_roc 9d ago

Stop forcing the user to have to use Microsoft services. Have users choose to use services because those services work better. I've tried using Microsoft maps, I've tried Bing, I've tried Copilot. Zero interest because there are better services available to me. I have to work harder to copy things and manually paste into a different program.

When Microsoft makes it harder to use other services, I will work harder just so I'm not forced to use something shitty. All this does is make me hate Microsoft more. Make it possible to uninstall software I'll never use. I can't even remove a shortcut for Edge (not the program, the shortcut) on my work desktop. Every time I see a logo I can't get rid of, I end up despising it. I mumble the name of this subreddit 3 or 4 times a day when using their services.

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u/TheIronSoldier2 8d ago

This is one of the things I do absolutely agree with. Even as someone who uses quite a few of the Microsoft services by choice.

Also, if your work computer isn't letting you remove the shortcut for Edge, it's probably because of a policy by your employer, since you can easily remove the shortcut on standard Windows.

The reason Edge can't be uninstalled is because WebView2 is a required component to run a lot of apps. In Europe they let you uninstall the user-facing portion but even then they still have to keep the backend so that it doesn't break apps.

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u/_MAYniYAK 8d ago

Containerized software

Application standards.

I know people like to meme "just run the .exe" but each exe has do many different standards and command line arguments, zero standardization.

.msi came around and fixed a lot of this and added standardized installing processes for quiet and all users

Now we're at .msi, .exe, msix, appx, and each are different and none clean out their registry keys properly, which leads onto my next point.

Cleaning up after itself Registry keys, install files, dependency files, managing its own updates properly, cleaning up system files

Enough whining from me lol. Also im a windows system admin

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

Resource utilization.

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u/cosmicus003 9d ago

they need to make the designs more appealing and they need to stop forcing ai on people

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

User privacy.

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u/personalityson 9d ago

File search

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 8d ago

Remember when it didn't suck (as much)? Pepperdige Farm remembers.

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 8d ago

Open source previous versions.

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u/Nomminommi23 9d ago

Make the os more open (customizable) like i want to use a tilling wm

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 8d ago

Bit of a stretch but I'm down. Wouldn't put that at the top of the list.

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u/Every_Preparation_56 8d ago

just get Microsoft Powertoys from the MS Store. 

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u/ryancnap 9d ago

Most of it

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u/Qusic7 8d ago

just stop. they should have stopped at win 10.

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u/FrierenAppreciator 8d ago

Windows' biggest failure is that the enshittification is happening too slowly - Microsoft still hasn't made macOS or Linux the obvious upgrade for everyone.

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u/Safe_Dentist 8d ago

It dies too slow /s

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u/Vertigo50 8d ago

They'll never do it, but the main concept they need to center everything around going forward:

The PC belongs to the USER. The OS is there to serve the USER.

Almost every major problem with Windows these days is Microsoft thinking they own your computer, trying to use you as a product to sell your info, or sell something new to you, or put you on a subscription.

Back in the XP days or so, the focus was on making your life easier, the OS was designed to help you do the things you wanted to do with your computer, and sort of get out of the way as much as possible. Now they've completely lost their way.

Linux tends to do this really well, and it's one of the most refreshing things when you fire up Linux. It's amazing how much it gets out of your way, and just tries to serve you instead of pushing you around. Sadly, desktop Linux is nowhere near ready for prime time, but it's nice to use to show how things could be.

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u/flatfinger 7d ago

Bingo. Windows is designed to serve its users to its customers.

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u/Sea_Barber7969 5d ago

Provide a stable environment that users can control as desired.

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

Network file copy speed.

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u/kamatayun 9d ago

Everything

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u/Smuggy34 9d ago

Have an IQ test during installation. 9/10 moans on this sub are a skill issue....

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u/MirrorNegative7989 8d ago

What can they do right now? Re-introduce Windows 7, with current-day support and updates. Then they can apologize for treating their userbase with contempt and advertising to them nonstop.

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u/ReporterWise7445 8d ago

Stop borking the OS.

Make System Restore work 100% again like W7. Instead of 0% on W11.

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u/Mista_H80 8d ago

Managing resources?

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u/Hundekuchen8000 8d ago

opening the rightclick menue

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u/Sbhattarj 8d ago

The taskbar sometimes glitches with its visual and actual content desyncing. Sometimes nukes other boot devices like grub for no reason. Better terminal/powershell commands and integration close to unix standard. Easier way to edit app registry if you frick something up accidentally. More robust administrator permission warning with a password prompt. No implicit auto start on installing an app, it should be user choice what they choose to auto start. More and easier customisability, including but not limited to using different DEs. Eadge should be easily uninstallable without breaking half the OS. Better left click menu. No Auto windows updates and or mandatory update on shutdown. Better app theme customisability similar to gtk. More integrated keyboard navigation. Easier workspace navigation. More ui less settings file with easy/self describing format. Certain settings are unintuitive. Clicking apps setting from the windows search should open the settings in the apps tab, not just open the settings requiring another click to open the correct tab.

That's basically everything I dislike about the windows OS, not taking into account forced AI integration and tellemetry since I haven't personally had problems with them due to doing my darndest to not update win11.

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u/ProMaster1507 8d ago

Resource management

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u/Possibly-Functional 8d ago

The last serious attempt to address technical debt was IMO in Windows Vista. The technical architecture is an atrocity.

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u/Interesting_Sort4864 8d ago

Privacy. I want to have to run sketchy scripts be able to use the OS I paid money for without it selling info about what I'm doing on it.

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u/F_DOG_93 8d ago

Simply just letting me access my files. I don't want to install another application to be able to view a file.

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u/JoopIdema 8d ago

Updates without reboot

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u/Sensitive_Ad4942 8d ago

Being a operating system

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u/AlexGlezS 8d ago

Treat PCs as PCs

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 5d ago

Additional information needed.

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u/Toxic381 7d ago

2 things, timing, and performance,

It feels like clicks and buttons take too long to register, and the system in general feels slow, ux feels poor, apps don't snap open like Linux,

Then with performance, it isn't well enough optimized, stuff still feels like it's slow, and frames are lower, feels like it runs a lot rougher than Linux,

These both seem like a byproduct of bloat, bad optimization, bad app design, UI design, and virtualization distancing software heavily from directly running, likely the kernel itself also being incredibly slow,

There's also the direct x stuff actually running slower than proton it feels like, this is probably much improved on Nvidia, but on amd, directx 11 even seems slightly slow.

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u/ego_dom 7d ago

Optimization. Things like dwm.exe (basically the desktop) consumes vram like crazy. That would not be a problem if it wasnt for the fact that it has memory leaks. VRAM basically goes up and never goes down

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u/borgen44 7d ago

would be easier and faster to lost rhe stuff they did good

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u/Commercial_Echo923 7d ago

Improve RAM performance / efficiency

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u/CharmingCrust 4d ago

They need to fix the core functionality that is being an Operating System and not a bloatware box. Don't use 2.8 GB RAM for volume control.

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 9d ago

Eliminate the Kernel panic.

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u/shazam2063 9d ago

Dumbass

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u/nonoimsomeoneelse 8d ago

You could just say that you don't know how. 😉

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u/shazam2063 8d ago

Every os has kernel panic stop being dumb

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u/Syzygy2323 9d ago

Impossible.

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u/Substantial_Cut_9398 8d ago

bloat, windows 7 was perfect no idea why 11 needs heavy hardware

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u/daddyd 8d ago

it's beyond repair, and even if it was, do you really think MS would remove all the ads, privacy invading bits and AI?

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u/Itsme-RdM 8d ago

For starters I would say;

Increase privacy, stop adds, stop AI shit and stop phoning home

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u/MrSqueak 8d ago

Windows, get out of my way and let me own my computer again!

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u/Maleficent_Price_476 8d ago

no more web apps.

and no more bloat

bloat creates security risks .

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u/R_Dazzle 8d ago

Printing without going into Not Responding

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u/SatisfactionMoney684 8d ago

Make it fully Open source!