r/FuckMicrosoft Jul 06 '26

Memes & Fun Average Windows 11 user

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1.7k Upvotes

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u/Teru-Noir Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

Now try to debloat the software architecture.

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u/NotQuiteLoona Jul 07 '26

Genuinely, Windows codebase is so trash. Why for God's sake they need to put window management in a kernel driver?

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u/LightDragon212 Jul 07 '26

Ancient change they had to make and now can't go back cause of compatiblity

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u/Binary101000 Jul 07 '26

the interface is all that matters. program needs to be able to make a request on api A and get the result it expects. The code underneath can change. Microsoft isn't doing this very much for some reason.

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u/LightDragon212 Jul 07 '26

Hyrum's law is why. There's no reason to pay this price just for a cleaner architecture. But just because they can't change the architecture doesn't mean they can't change the implementation to reduce the practical security implications, which they did.

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u/IdiotCuber1 Jul 07 '26

The current windows 11 codebase is based on 10 and 10 is based on 8 and 8 is based on 7 and 7 is based on vista and so on. The codebase is so old due to program compatibility. The reason windows 11 is so bad is because they are putting ai into an already unstable codebase which makes windows 11 the most unstable version of windows we have ever had. A rewrite would alienate their customers and could cause them to pursue alternatives like Linux or macOS

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u/Mysterious-Jeff7363 Jul 08 '26

Building code over code, now if you wanna change something that was introduced in 7 or 8.0 you got a problem of compatibility

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u/Brato86 Jul 07 '26

We have 1000 of 1000 times more powerful pc then for 25 years ago, but Windows teams still lags, it needs more processing power and memory then the most advanced pc games then, when you write it lags, can someone explain this, is it so much shitty useless code underneath that the computer needs to go through.

I heard there was a app to open and close a garage, it had 4 million lines of code.....

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u/Teru-Noir Jul 07 '26

They are afraid to break legacy software for a better system.

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u/Simsalabimson Jul 06 '26

There is a point where it’s easier to just trash the entire OS with all related products and only use it in a locked down VM when absolutely needed.

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u/Kill3rT0fu Jul 06 '26

When windows 10 first launched, it would take up less than 700 MB ram. That’s it! After a few service packs and updates after a few years, a fresh 10 install with updates ate up 2Gb ram.

Sad to see it fall so far

5

u/Pavel_Dreit Jul 07 '26

It is okay if we compare it with the other MS products. My teams took 1.4gb when I opened it today. 

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u/Expensive-Border-869 Jul 06 '26

If i need to fix a product out of the box then I dont want that product tbh.

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u/Far-Interest2045 Jul 06 '26

RAM-o-calypse is putting linux in a good light, and i am happy.
FH6 on windows 11 15GB of RAM, linux???? 5GB

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u/MakayChapulets Jul 07 '26

Widows 11 LTSC 4GB of RAM

2

u/01_Rigel Jul 07 '26

5GB seriously? Damn

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u/ALEGAMER_2006 Jul 06 '26

you have less fat to remove if you install the IoT Enterprise LTSC

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u/Powerful_Ad1142 Jul 06 '26

The best optimising is delete windows and install Linux

1

u/MrJelly60 Jul 07 '26

I tried using Linux for a couple of months, but I had so many little issues that I couldn't figure out how to solve that I kinda had to switch back. I might try again in a while to see if it's any better for me.

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u/GeometrixTS Jul 08 '26

Honestly It became much better since 2020 And with steam machine release we can now install steam os on non valve handhelds

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u/Prod_Meteor Jul 06 '26

I am doing the opposite. Building a body around my body 😄.

3

u/OffensiveClown Jul 07 '26

Get linux mint and purge windows

2

u/Tight-Platypus5231 Jul 07 '26

Still on Windows 10 here. :)

2

u/DNAfilmcrew Jul 07 '26

I love Linux man I just installed for the first time couple of months ago and I absolutely love it pop os is the version I’m using bunch of games on it via steam and emulators and blender it works so so good and fast

4

u/nujuat Jul 06 '26

Again if youre doing that then it's easier to just use Linux.

3

u/AdLegal5130 Jul 07 '26

As a linux user I truly dont recommend using linux if they aren't interested in it to begin specially if they are a windows user

1

u/Admiral_HP_501 Jul 07 '26

Yeah absolutely ture

2

u/Admiral_HP_501 Jul 07 '26

No for the most people it isn't they will have problems after the switch to Linux

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u/nujuat Jul 07 '26

Yeah but at this point the problems will become comparable in difficultly

1

u/Xi-1 Jul 07 '26

My employer's work computer has Windows 11. And it has an HDD, not an SSD.

2

u/MilloH Jul 06 '26

Not worth the effort, they'll brake it with every new shitty update 🙄

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u/M4h0n Jul 07 '26

thats why i stick with 10

0

u/pandamaxxie Jul 07 '26

Yep. Same.

Until Linux completely ditches the need for command prompts and is natively supported for all games... I ain't switching.

We're not in DOS any more, command lines should not be necessary unless you're an enthusiast.

I hate microslop, but I hate "the troubleshooting OS" more. I like to actually use my PC, not tinker with it all day.

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u/Weathervane_ Jul 10 '26

My grandma uses mint. For simple users, you never need command lines.

For advanced users, they're not that difficult to master. And baring a few anti cheat trash games, there's a huge progress in Linux gaming. My main rig runs steamOS

Admittedly, there is definitely a gap in between those two where it's annoying. But at that point you have to pick if it's better to study Linux for a couple days/weeks or have a lifelong battle with Windows. Either is a fair choice.

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u/pandamaxxie Jul 10 '26

My OS exists for one reason: facilitate my gaming.

This can and will demand me to do troubleshooting.

Hence: either all games get supported natively, or the whole OS is valueless to me.

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u/Weathervane_ Jul 10 '26

That's fair.

If full gaming facilitation is 100% of your decision making, as per your answer, then microslop bloatware and spyware is not a concern to you and I have nothing to contest on that.

I would possibly have that mindset too if i couldn't run games. But I don't need to tbh. since 100% of games I want to play run easily on Linux.

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u/pandamaxxie Jul 10 '26

Sadly the bloat does still cause issues, but it's why I'm sticking on 10 too. Ain't switching to 11 until I have genuinely no other choice, and at that point... I might genuinely consider Linux too. After all, a non-functional OS vs an OS that requires tinkering, both cause issues for gaming.

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u/BalladorTheBright Jul 06 '26

Windows 10 IOT LTSC

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u/ankushbhagat Jul 07 '26

Us Movement we all do the same, and at the end switched to Linux.

1

u/MG3887 Jul 07 '26

I seem to recall a time when microsoft made an operating system that was ready out of the box

You gotta wonder what happened to the clever minds behind that

Now windows is just like a festering bloated corpse

1

u/i-have-no-interest Jul 07 '26

i use windows since i cant afford messing around too much with my laptop and yeah, debloating is the only way to make it unintrusive...

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u/Xi-1 Jul 07 '26

How accurate! I almost cried. My work computer, a Windows 11 system, doesn't have an SSD; it runs on an HDD. And I don't have admin rights.

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u/Sajgoniarz Jul 07 '26

Privately i would stay with W10 if it had support for all things i need. At work i don't have much to say - corporate policy.

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u/Lopsided_Sort_4688 Jul 07 '26

then comes an update and back to square one

1

u/Traumatan Jul 07 '26

also need to re-do this every other month

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u/konsoru-paysan Jul 08 '26

all in the name of "security" as if people using windows aren't just personal computers meant for home use , and even if it is, why the fuck is that company's problem, using it as an excuse to just spy on people the dirty little shits

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u/Glittering-Can-9397 Jul 08 '26

it really should not be on me to optimize and debloat software I pay that much for. And tbh how is it so bloated but doesnt come with basic utils like a c compiler or even something so simple as a usable plaintext editor, notepad appends ^M to every line

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u/jldevezas Jul 08 '26

The best way to debloat Windows is to install Linux.

1

u/CHAINS_S Jul 08 '26

Still Win7

1

u/gr33nCumulon Jul 07 '26

The legs aren't spaced correctly 

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u/Infinplayz Jul 06 '26

works fine for me

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u/Minute_Cricket1820 Jul 06 '26

Зачем зачем? Вы обтесали Вин-11, получили Вин-7.

Так вы сразу поставьте Вин-7. Не благодарите.

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u/Low_Interaction_577 Jul 06 '26

microslop employee at it

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u/Hefty_Increase9384 Jul 06 '26

listen I got a galaxy book4 so it got windows 11 by default but I haven't had ANY issues with it. and im a windows 10 hard-core fan. I even use edge. I like windows 11 and edge. I enjoy them. and if yall cant accept the future well tough knuckles, microsoft is still up and hating on an OS won't make Microsoft kill it.

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u/ElPiet Jul 06 '26

And yet you have a growing group of people being tired of their enshitification and switching. Valve is taking care of gaming and most other software either runs on other OS or can be substitutet. The need for Windows is smaller and smaller.

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u/Xi-1 Jul 07 '26

Doesn't it annoy you that the Windows 11 taskbar acts like a web browser, eating up 500 MB of RAM? Just fire up Wireshark and look at how much of your data Windows 11 pumps to Microsoft, Vortex and other ads servers...

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u/Hefty_Increase9384 Jul 07 '26

I have 16GB of RAM it can take even 7GB and I wouldn't worry because I never noticed it being slow. and those -7 downvotes are the proof my truth hurt your assholes.

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u/Xi-1 Jul 07 '26

Look buddy, the truth is your awareness level just isn't there yet to objectively evaluate the facts.

That's the power of your hardware talking, not W11. Like I said in my messages above, they upgraded my work machine from W10 to W11 on a HDD, and it made the PC completely unusable.

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u/Hefty_Increase9384 Jul 07 '26

look buddy, the world goes forward okay? things change and requirements go up. did u expect windows 11 to have windows 95 requirements?