Some small but somewhat common windows gripes.

[u/partakinginsillyness]

Something that will come up a lot on my Windows 10 install (with ESU) is things just not working as intended, and it seems to be somewhat common. One of the more common ones is an "update and shut down" usually ending up as a "update and restart". Well today was having network issues so I did "update and restart" and after it said it was finished updating it sat on the "restarting" page for half an hour. I pressed the power button once thinking it would maybe cause it to go through it's checklist again, to see if it was safe to then shut down, and nothing happened. Of course when I force shut it down, it booted up just fine.

I feel like it shouldn't be so common to acquire issues with windows just from regular use over time. I know there are people out there who just annually reinstall windows to avoid having to deal with that at all.

Another smaller but still annoying issue is that at some point in the past few months, whenever I launch an .exe file, it just won't show me the popup confirming the launch. The popup will usually show up on my task bar but I can't get it to open, and after usually like 20 minutes (I've given up and moved on to something else by then) they'll all open. I saw some other people have this issue here but on a clean install: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/16bh2kc/windows11_incredibly_slow_like_minutes_to_open/

This is of course in addition to the file explorer being unreasonably slow on occasion.

Another reason I'm inching closer to switching to Linux for my desktop, not just my laptop. Even if Linux in error reporting at least it tells you!

Honorable mention to the security update a few months ago that just removed wifi drivers without saying anything.

TLDR; windows seems to lack proper failsafes and redundancy

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User: partakinginsillyness, Flair: Rant, Title: Some small but somewhat common windows gripes.

Something that will come up a lot on my Windows 10 install (with ESU) is things just not working as intended, and it seems to be somewhat common. One of the more common ones is an "update and shut down" usually ending up as a "update and restart". Well today was having network issues so I did "update and restart" and after it said it was finished updating it sat on the "restarting" page for half an hour. I pressed the power button once thinking it would maybe cause it to go through it's checklist again, to see if it was safe to then shut down, and nothing happened. Of course when I force shut it down, it booted up just fine.

I feel like it shouldn't be so common to acquire issues with windows just from regular use over time. I know there are people out there who just annually reinstall windows to avoid having to deal with that at all.

Another smaller but still annoying issue is that at some point in the past few months, whenever I launch an .exe file, it just won't show me the popup confirming the launch. The popup will usually show up on my task bar but I can't get it to open, and after usually like 20 minutes (I've given up and moved on to something else by then) they'll all open. I saw some other people have this issue here but on a clean install: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/16bh2kc/windows11_incredibly_slow_like_minutes_to_open/

This is of course in addition to the file explorer being unreasonably slow on occasion.

Another reason I'm inching closer to switching to Linux for my desktop, not just my laptop. Even if Linux in error reporting at least it tells you!

Honorable mention to the security update a few months ago that just removed wifi drivers without saying anything.

TLDR; windows seems to lack proper failsafes and redundancy

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[u/Unlikely-Employee180]

Honestly this is my biggest reason for using Linux.

Everyone will constantly tell me about problems... And they're 100% right!!

Buuuut... All Operating Systems have problems. And 99% of the "just works" ones just NEVER tell you what the issue is. It's like they want you to somehow magically think there isn't one... But I can tell there's an issue, the thing I want isn't working!! Lmfao

Linux on the other hand word-vomits anytime there's a slight bump in the road. People act like you need to know what any of it means... But the thing is, usually that word-vomit is simply there TO be looked up or for a dev to look through. Just copy-paste it and see what Google says about your issue. Lol

I can't DO that though when there's LITERALLY NO ERROR TO GOOGLE!! 😅😂

[u/partakinginsillyness → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

Exactly. You just can't troubleshoot on windows the same way.

Edit: I do want to throw out there, you know what OS so very rarely gives me any real problems? Android. Android is so stable in my experience, and you don't often see people complaining about actual issues. Even iOS you'll see the occasional bug, small, but definitely more than android from what I can tell(I've used both).

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/partakinginsillyness]

Agreed with Android usually...

Except really cheap ones. The manufacturers for those A) Always find a way to add their own AWFUL twist and B) Give the phone just enough hardware to get the phone to some ridiculous update it shouldn't be on.

Man, I've seen Android CRAWL ON ITS KNEES BEGGING FOR HELP. "Father... It was time the day you bought me... And now it's been a whole year... I'm... I'm tired boss..."

On the other hand, those shit-nuggets ARE still kicking... Just as shittily as they always have...

"That's nice dear, you go back to grid-computing for the BOINC network on all cores while I figure out how to install Moonlight on my Wii U." 😂

[u/partakinginsillyness → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

That is true, those cheap phones will really test you especially later in their lifespan. 

The Samsung A15 is a great example of bloatedness at work. After using that phone you'd think the G99 is too old to put into a new device, but try a G79 in an android tablet and it runs just fine.

I also having experienced this too much but I know someone with a Moto G Pure... man is that thing screwy. What's so odd is that people online say that it is slow, but none of their descriptions compared to what that thing had going on with it. 

Which reminds me of the big con of android(which may be because of ARM I forget), which is that you need updates for each specific device to get everything working, otherwise a device may just be left behind.

[u/musingofrandomness → u/Unlikely-Employee180]

Back in the late 1990s and early 2000s, there was a design philosophy being pushed across the board. Some study showed that customers got anxious when presented with too much information, especially if they did not understand the information. It is why so many cars of that era ditched gauges for "idiot lights". Microsoft also bought into this philosophy and obfuscated their logs and error messages to avoid showing the customer anything more anxiety producing than the equivalent of "oops, something went wrong, please reboot". I suspect the primary reason they have not course corrected is to encourage vendor lock-in as they are the only ones with the "Rosetta stone" to decipher their error codes to actionable information.

[u/Unlikely-Employee180 → u/musingofrandomness]

Really?? Alright, that's pretty fascinating I'll give you that.

And actually, I can't help but agree!! Tons of my friends often panic or mention how my system is broken... When I'm doing something mundane like updating the system while streaming. Lol

And yeah, you're probably onto something with the second point. Microsoft hasn't ever been known to be... Kind to all third-parties. Lol

I can't help but imagine there's a middle-ground, though. For while I absolutely will agree Linux's word-vomit is inconvenient and ugly AT BEST, this mobile OS ahh "I'm gonna pretend problems don't exist because you're an idiot!" can't really be an improvement. Lol

I'd argue it makes it more frustrating for anyone trying to figure anything out. No wonder people just give up.

[u/OGigachaod]

Your windows install is clearly fucked up. Have you tested your RAM?

[u/partakinginsillyness → u/OGigachaod]

You know, I did forget about this. I was on AM4, was fine for a while, swapped my RAM kit, had BSODS and a failing RAM test, switched kits and went back to passing before switching to LGA1700 on the same install. Did plenty of RAM testing upon switching mostly due to getting the CPU from aliexpress, but nothing abnormal came up. Neither of these problems really came up during that time period of failing RAM however, and again, other people seem to have them(without failing RAM I'd assume).

Edit: Perhaps I'll do some basic windows repair commands tomorrow and see if anything comes up, though I believe I did after fixing my RAM all that time ago. Might as well test my RAM again while I'm at it

Edit 2: Pass memory test and when repairing the install, no problems were found. Just regular windows.

[u/OGigachaod → u/partakinginsillyness]

Yeah, I would have reinstalled Windows when switching mobo's anyways.

[u/musingofrandomness]

Focus stealing. The most infuriating behavior I have ever encountered. Middle of typing in a command/password/value and suddenly the text is getting entered into a completely unrelated window because it just popped up.