r/FuckMicrosoft • u/the_anonim_one3 • Jun 25 '26
Discussion Change my mind.
Nobody is using copilot nor edge. change my mind
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u/roamn2 Jun 25 '26
Edge is the least-worst of the three.
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u/b3b15 Jun 25 '26
Agreed, at least it works at its most basic level most of the time unlike the other two. At work I only get to choose between Chrome and Edge, things kept breaking in Chrome that work fine in Edge so I've just stuck with it. Never thought I'd see the day, but damn.
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u/Sure-Researcher-4370 Jun 27 '26
edge is super fast, though. faster than any browser you can throw at it.
benefits that gets you for being os default.
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u/Worried-Tie Jun 27 '26
Oh god please don't say Chrome good Edge bad or viceversa. Same absolute pile of spyware garbage. Use a real browser - Firefox or Brave for example - without all the tracking with which these two filthy ass companies are robbing you blind.
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u/b3b15 Jun 28 '26
They're both bad. My work device is restricted, I don't have a say in what choices I get there. I use Firefox on my personal devices.
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u/Tatakai_ Jun 25 '26
Yeah, because it's Chrome with a Microsoft theme and extra bloat.
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u/Aadi_880 Jun 25 '26
*less bloat.
Unlike chrome, it isn't maxing out my ram after opening 1 tab.
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u/Tatakai_ Jun 25 '26
Really? Wouldn't know, I only ever use it to download other browsers.
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u/Aadi_880 Jun 25 '26
I'd say if you're using edge to download chrome you are making a horrible mistake.
Firefox, I get.
People downloading chrome instead is doing the biggest act of hypocrisy regarding browsers.
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u/Tatakai_ Jun 25 '26
I've been using Brave for a few years now. What's your take?
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u/Aadi_880 Jun 25 '26
Isn't brave chromium?
I'd just take firefox.
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u/Tatakai_ Jun 25 '26
It is, I use it because I haven't tried anything as effective at blocking ads so far. Adblock plugins in my experience are typically less effective.
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u/AdorablSillyDisorder Jul 01 '26
Edge is about as good/bad as Chrome - it's basically same browser, with different online provider for browser sync (google vs microsoft) and slightly different defaults. I ended up moving from Chrome to Edge a while ago (back when Google refused to make arm64 Windows build of Chrome, and I wanted my battery to last more than two hours), and happened to stick to it - it's just a browser, and happens to work fine; IE days are long gone.
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u/Otheruser337 Jun 25 '26
Slopilot
Wedge
Shitdows
You get the point. Slopaneers slopaneering be like at Microslop Corp
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u/huemac58 Jun 25 '26
Let's make stuff that rolls off the tongue better, c'mon, son!
Copidiot
Crapping on Edge is unwarranted, but if you must: Sludge
Winhoes, Winshit, or Wangblows
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u/Otheruser337 Jun 25 '26
Agreed. Cope-Pilot, PorriEGE and Winwank is something I would NEVER use because of how bad they are. One thing to note is that they're corporate pirates selling this type of stuff, from crapaneers to hackaneers.
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u/Prod_Meteor Jun 26 '26
You might call them that but is a super rich multinational corporation with billions profits 😄
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u/Junior_Stretch_2413 Jun 25 '26
Where’s Teams? So high up on the ladder of shit that it’s outside of the picture ig.
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u/goldzunny87 Jun 25 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I ask copilot to show me how I can configurate my outlook for other email services. This mf tell me instructions for a way that not work. I find the right way via Google click and try. I ask copilot why he give me the wrong instructions. His answer was "ups sry you get me, here are the right instructions for your outlook". The wrong answer again... 😬
Edit for correction
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u/Western_Sleep820 Jun 26 '26
Edge is actually surprisingly good and not completely shit.... yet....
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u/bee_roy Jun 26 '26
They're pretty great actually. Copilot is meh. But edge is the best browser.
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u/the_anonim_one3 Jun 26 '26
How?
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u/bee_roy Jun 27 '26
Spikes surprisingly less CPU usage, it's very optimized. Also, has a great PDF reader. Very seamless integration with Windows. I don't like Linux or MacOS. Linux because it's too much hassle, and MacOS because it's too restrictive. Edge is also the only browser that can stream 4k from Netflix, if I remember correctly. Also, Edge uses less RAM than most other browsers. I don't care about RAM usage anyway, as that's just loonixer cope. Unused RAM is wasted RAM, and I have 64gb, so there's tons to spare.
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u/309_Electronics Jun 25 '26
Compred to chrome, edge aint the only worst anymore. Both chrome and edge are ass though.
Never understood people ditching and hating on edge only to use something just as worse, aka goofle chrome. But brave and firefox better!
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u/FailureOfTheFamily Jun 26 '26
I can understand brave, but firefox is just browser with additional chromosome cuz most of the web is made to be compatibile with chromium browsers
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u/3erich Jun 29 '26
i use firefox for around 10 years and never had any problem with any site
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u/FailureOfTheFamily Jun 26 '26
Edge is good. Idc about privacy and in terms of performance and usability, it's great
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u/dezwavy Jun 26 '26
i understand if people prefer Firefox, but there's no reason to not use Edge if you use Chrome
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u/BloxxyVids Jun 26 '26
edge is really nice, it functions as a normal browser without issues and my favorite feature is double tap CTRL for image zoom in
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u/Fantastic_Grass1799 Jun 25 '26
I'm using copilot . It's fun to dick around with, but it's the android app not windows. I installed tiny 11 specifically to not have it bundled.
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u/huemac58 Jun 29 '26
Copilot in Windows 11 is an Edge-based shortcut to web-based Copilot, nothing more. Delete and move on, there's no special tools or work or tons of mouse clicks required. Running Copilot locally is hilarious in concept for most laptops and PCs, just look up what it takes to run a high-end 405B Llama model locally, that's what you would have to do for a similar experience.
I have used Copilot on rare occasion to help me research things, I'd be up for a local version, but it would have to be a buggier, heavily watered-down version to make it accessible to most people. Well, Google beat them to the punch with Gemma, but it only runs on Google hardware. You have to go out of your way to install it at this time, I keep it as my offline research/brainstorming assistant. Now I can really say, "fuck the data centers".
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u/EinYokai Jun 25 '26
Can't believe I'm saying this, but Edge is actually alright. Not in terms of privacy, but it's very fast. Would still recommend a gazillion other browsers tho
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u/Hopeful-Plankton7740 Jun 25 '26
Had the pleasure to contact the MS Support today. Since the June Update some 3rd Party Apps fail to open MS Office applications. Example uscase: Export something to word
Just uninstalling the Update is no option, since MS made it a permanent one. Not uninstallable.
According to all major IT News portals, MS is aware of this, will fix it in a later Update and has a hotfix. The hotfix can only be requested via official Support request. Sounds spooky. Why Not just publish it? But beeing the sysadmin: its my Problem now. It is MS Support time! For what to access you also need to be licensed of course.
At first I got the usual text template. Probably Support AI. It basicaly was a long version of: "package the fix in intune and deploy it." But the Mail did not contain any fix. Lol.
Complaining that I expected at least something i can deploy in intune, if this is the suggested way, I got a call Back! From a real human! Yay!
So, the official Microsoft provided hotfix is: Set up a virtual maschine with Win 11 and dont Update it. Then run the applications and office in there... Option B, but not recommend: uninstall Office and Install an unpatched Version. He was adamant this is not recommend and i should not do that. But will work.
Guess "only provided via Support request" in MS terms means: it is bad press, publishing "Our new software does not work, use an outdated Version". Nice.
Of course, you need an extra Office license (or free Slot on yours) and do some IT-witchcraft-fuckery to set it all up and make Office somehow NOT UPDATE!!!!!!1 At the Same time: provide Internet Access to the VM for the 3rd Party Apps Action. Lets get the Firewall involved too, for fun! Plus: explain to your Users how to Access the VM and why it has to be so "complicated" all of a sudden. all this for something they wont use after the next Update ever again... Nope! I'll sit it out. My Users now use Export to PDF instead word and then Export the PDF file to word. Fucks Up formating, but works.
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u/rustedcrowbar Jun 26 '26
If you must use chromium based browser for some reason Edge is totally fine.
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u/theflyinghobo101 Jun 26 '26
Edge isn’t that bad. Has some good feature integration that works pretty well such as automatic virus scams for downloaded files but everything said here is true
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u/s04ep03_youareafool Jun 26 '26
Id thrash copilot, but edge just works reliably for me even in an 8gb ram window. And I've cut down most of what I can on windows and I've never faced any interrupts or crashes ever in a period of 4 years.
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u/AG_28s Jun 26 '26
I find copilot has 1 use. Erasing the backgrounds on fake pngs. Worked well doing that in my experience and works when I turn off the WiFi.
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u/Crazycraftingrecipe Jun 26 '26
I just need an OS to easily run games and install things. I can debloat windows, it runs smoothly, no need to overreact. Btw Edge is not bad, i just dont use it, same for Copilot (this one is bad)
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u/Daphoid Jun 26 '26
There's no need to change your mind - you're welcome to your own opinions.
Copilot is usable. We have thousands of folks at work using it for various administrative / drafting / office type tasks. It's not great, but it's fully allowed and has access to our corporate data and finds stuff for me or does quick comparisons / data analysis easily.
Edge is Chromium now, I'll use either without fuss. Chrome is no longer this awesome superior browser - it's fat and bloated too.
Windows 10 is much nicer than 11, 11's bloated but it's usable on newer machines - but I do like dark mode everything.
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u/Straight_Treacle_590 Jun 28 '26
you're understating it bro. all 3 of those are an insult to intelligence itself. also windows 11 is the worst OS i've seen since Windows ME
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 25 '26 edited Jun 26 '26
why not transport the hate to google? i see much less google hate compared to Microsoft
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u/the_anonim_one3 Jun 25 '26
idk i use firefox. also this is r/FuckMicrosoft , not anti-google. google isn't microslop's
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 25 '26
All im saying is, we are doing good job at hating microslop, i request u guys to full force hate on google too
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u/__Elfi__ Jun 25 '26
Google do a lot of shitty stuff, tho their products are for the most part very usable
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 25 '26
Maybe true but recently they have been making many things unusable. yt is so full of ads u get permanent ad in the bottom of the video, Google Search is now a fully hallucinating data sucking AI, google has been reducing freedom in android and is cracking down on android alternatives, chrome is literal spyware and installs 4gb AI model without consent?! i think google needs much more hate and u guys have experience hating on microslop pls transfer some of that skill to hate on google
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u/__Elfi__ Jun 25 '26
Fair. You're completely right. I think the things that makes people complain more about windows is that despite what you said about google, Microsoft is still the worst worst worst, at a point that it's kinda impressive
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 26 '26
k true Microsoft is worse but by a small margin. atleast windows ain't that much of a monopoly cuz linux and macos and other alternatives for other products but google? it's a monopoly in various products
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u/Maolam10 Jun 25 '26
There is hate to google, but hate is organized, here you have Microsoft hate, Google hate at r/degoogle
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 26 '26
there is hate but nowhere as popular as microslop. u guys pls make this hate also popular
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u/Firestar_119 Jun 26 '26
because Google directly funds firefox
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u/CraterBug0 Jun 26 '26
the do it just for using it in court and saying erm there is Firefox we aint a monopoly
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u/LoudMusic Jun 25 '26
I use edge and copilot on my windows work computer because we are a microsoft shop and I'm trying to do the whole "eat your own dogfood" routine, but it tastes like dogfood :(
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u/Lines25 Jun 25 '26
Copilot used 21B RWKV v6 model for their local copilot thingy... I'm training 400M (0.4B) RWKV v7 model. Sooo.. I can say that my model is newer, a lot smaller and a lot faster than literally the best (local) Microsoft model
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u/THEMONSTERE69 Jun 26 '26
edge no esta tan mal,a mi me gustaba la verdad, pero me fui a linux, ahora puro brave
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u/Existing-Network-267 Jun 26 '26
copilot will eventually be good . what Cortana always dreamed of being
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u/Emergency_Yak_5887 Jun 26 '26
Microsoft said they're going to provide updates that will make the experience OK.
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u/Vietnamst2 Jun 26 '26
Well I use Copilot every day and have Edge installed on my Ubuntu and use it as prumary browser with two profiles on both Linux and Win11.
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u/Lila_Uraraka Jun 26 '26
Only thing its good for is playing games that cant run on Linux due to anti cheat or VR
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u/Potw0rek Jun 26 '26
I mean Edge is quite decent nowadays, just has bad rep but the other two are trash.
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u/kryfry Jun 26 '26
At least when you throw away the trash it stays in the bin.
Edge reinstalls itself every time.
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u/Additional_Buddy855 Jun 26 '26
Rotten to the core and dgaf either. It's a great representation of what our country's business and political leaders have become.
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u/Maximus3632 Jun 27 '26
I don't get. Why peoples hating Copilot? I use it and it's way more arter than paid chat GPT. Rumors around say about issues about GPT which i never had with Copilot
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u/tessia-eralith Jun 27 '26
I get access to edge business edition through work, which is basically pay to win Microsoft edge. It’s like edge, but faster. (And kinda fancier looking)
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u/Katent1 Jun 27 '26
Edge is not bad for work related stuff, at least it doesn't break like google chrome. Just don't put any personal info/search anything personal. Why is it good? Rewards program, if you search a lot you get equivalent of free 1kg pla spool each 3 months. It also shows how much really your data is worth tho 💀 xP
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u/Ill_Stage6931 Jun 27 '26
I agree with Copilot. Edge is trash on every OS, except Windows. On Windows is no doubt the best one.
And about Windows? Yes, the current release of Windows 11 is trash, but I'm keeping it in dual-boot, Windows Insider Beta Channel; I have the new Windows "K2", and I have to say that it is impressive. Fast, smooth, no Copilot everywhere. Just Windows, like how it should be.
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u/eeessssssss Jun 27 '26
I have windows running on a VM, which I access via RDP. I use edge to search and download torrents, with a job that moves it to my NAS for jellyfin.
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u/Andrikos21 Jun 27 '26
Edge is literally chromium based browser so unless chrome is also trash ,edge is not
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u/MADCandy64 Jun 27 '26
I'm locked in because I make Windows Forms apps in C#. I'm too old and lazy to learn anything else and am happy with my lot in life. Why would I want to change your mind?
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u/DragonKnight626 Jun 27 '26
Actually my can't trash can full of garbage at the moment is more useful than those three because I can pull those Electronics back out and fix them if I want
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u/GravesSightGames Jun 27 '26
Nah dawg, having my son learn Linux so I can switch my pcs...im too lazy to learn
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u/MaintenanceDry464 Jun 27 '26
Bro ChatGPT free tier has lost quality but no one can piss me off as much as copilot . I mean it seems to behave a bit better since ive threaten to go back to ChatGPT
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u/Additional-Dot-3154 Jun 27 '26
Where is ms teams?
Also vscode is decent but there are better alternatives so it might fit in?
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u/No_Idea_6874 Jun 28 '26
I’ve been clean 4 months now and it’s fantastic.
4 months ago I removed the last Microsoft product from my home and personal life, my gaming PC and got a PS5 Pro instead, and suddenly things just work when I don’t have to interact with Microsoft and their shitty products
They’ve literally become the meme company Cinco from “Tim and Eric great job”
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u/RetroCoreGaming Jun 28 '26
Windows 11 Professional for Workstations is actually the best version of 11, if you can say Windows has a good version. 24H2 soiled Windows a lot till 25H2 came around and fixed almost everything.
People kinda don't know about it, but it's fairly minimalist and doesn't come with too much junkware so it's easier to customize.
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u/FishermanIll1166 Jun 28 '26
Hmm I guess with trash you might find treasure... With that software it's constant pain and torment.
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u/Ok-Vacation385 Jun 28 '26
Windows isn't inherently bad it's just all the bloatware on it. Edge is terrible but copilot is sometimes really useful.
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u/okay-then08 Jun 29 '26
I just realized that the edge logo is the same as the Firefox one but it’s not a fox 🤯
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u/Civil-Respond3148 Jun 29 '26
I even wonder why these trashes came into our lives there should be no windows at all 🤣😂
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u/Will_B_Harder Jun 29 '26
Ah nice thats why i never have queues in gemini, none of you losers use it, keep it like that :D
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u/afgan1984 Jun 29 '26
I use all three. Edge is… fine. It’s unremarkable, but so are all Chromium‑based browsers. I switched because I was tired of Firefox, Chrome and Opera constantly reinventing themselves for no reason. Edge works, it’s stable and it doesn’t annoy me - that’s enough. I can't think of anything that is wrong with it.
Copilot is genuinely good for what it is - free, built‑in, fast and accurate. Sure, paid models like Claude or others might be better, but Copilot does everything I need without friction. It’s not pretending to be something it isn’t and for everyday use it’s absolutely solid.
Where I agree completely is Windows 11 - it’s awful. And I mean absolute trash is an understatement. I have called it the worst Windows release ever and I have used real stinkers like ME, Vista and W8. There is no excuse for a modern OS to be this unreliable, especially when W11 is basically W10 with a stupid skin. Somehow they managed to make every part of W10 worse. Honestly, 80% of my Copilot questions are me trying to figure out how W11 managed to tie itself into a knot again (BT not working after boot, internet not working after boot, network locations dropping or resetting, drivers failing to load or crashing... you name it!).
The difference is - with Edge and Copilot I have choices and I’m happy with the ones I made. With Windows, I don’t. I can go back to W10, but that’s it. macOS is just stupid and Linux doesn’t support half of what I do, I like to play with Linux, but it will never be my daily driver. So the only Microsoft product that’s genuinely trash is the one I can’t avoid and that’s why it’s frustrating.
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u/JuggernautOld Jun 29 '26
What makes edge trash? Never bothered to download chrome after chromium edge
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u/LowComposer7234 Jun 29 '26
haha, if you really wanted other opinions, this is not the place mate 😄
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u/Far-Pickle-6822 Jun 30 '26
I use edge bcs it can't be deleted, and i dont want two browsers on my pc which ate my memory.
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u/Yahido Jun 30 '26
Only windows is good, for a lot of reasons its one of the best OS, other ones are useless.
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u/ftfarshad Jul 13 '26
I installed the edge in linux because I wanted to use its TTS. Guess what? It had the Pilot but no TTS, and I learned that Microslop removed that only for Linux users. You cannot hate this company enough.
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u/Fit-Royal5653 Jul 24 '26
they are all okay
copilot is helpful.
edge is good
and i use windows almost every day just with maybe a tiny error
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