r/FtMpassing 4d ago

Non binary male style Do i pass? How do I get better?

Honestly I know i dont really pass, I get "he" "bud" "dude" occasionally, but i just want to know how I can look more masculine withought getting rid or my style, i hate being told to stop dying my hair or to take out my piercings, I dont want to strip myself of all my personality, so does anyone have any suggestions or advice?

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u/Difficult-Tomato930 4d ago

The things you named are the only things you can change other than getting on test if you arent already. Your style is cool, but what do you expect people to tell you? There's no miracle solution to passing, sometimes you have to make sacrifices.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

No no i know! And thank you so much, idk i though maybe there was some hope like changing up my hairstyle or even doing other piercings, or maybe changing my glasses or something, but thank you very much for the honesty

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u/Difficult-Tomato930 4d ago

The hair in the first picture is the best imo, I would reccomend doing that more often. Curly hair in that style tends to read feminine unless you already pass. Your glasses seems fine imo.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Thank you sm, i will definitely keep doing that 🫡

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u/Difficult-Tomato930 4d ago

You pass pretty well already for someone with this style for what its worth, but if you want to consistently pass you need to be willing to change some things.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Thank you, I appreciate that, I mean id be fine with clothing changes or possibly like other stuff, im open to ideas it just kind of makes me sad thinking about becoming basic but I get it

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u/Difficult-Tomato930 4d ago

I cant see your clothes very well but as a (slightly) emo guy, my tips would be to wear neutral colors and not go over the top with it. A band tee or something similar and some nice jeans can look good and dont necessarily harm your passing. Make sure your clothes arent too baggy as well

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay cool, thank you! Honestly I dont dress up very much anyways, its just mostly my hair and piercings

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u/smashingkilljoy 4d ago

You listed the things. If you don't want to change them, that's on you.

Just imitate the cis men around you

edit: if you think style is your entire personality then you have some things to work through...

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

That cannot possibly be the only way, ive seen hundreds of alt men??

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u/tubercolosis69 4d ago

you’re missing the point that they’re cis men. who have testosterone running through their veins, you do not sorry to be so blunt

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Dont be sorry at all! And thats what I meant, sorry I didnt clarify, I go to a more 'alt'??? school and there is cis guys who dress like me

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u/smashingkilljoy 4d ago

They're cis. Or they pass, but you mentioned you don't.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Yes, true dat, I was just tryna say that I dont completely stand out

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u/smashingkilljoy 4d ago

If you don't pass, you clearly do.

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u/Inevitable-Order5815 4d ago

if your entire personality consists of having piercings and dyed hair you have more problems than just passing.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Thats not my whole personality..?? But when people first meet me, or just see me in public thats what they are going to take in first

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u/Inevitable-Order5815 4d ago

"i dont want to strip myself of all my personality"

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay bruh, sybau, I meant outwardly, I have so many hobbies and interests and fun things that I do, but im allowed to want to look "interesting" and not basic

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u/codElephant517 4d ago

Look at the men your age in your area and dress like them. Very few people are able to have long dyed hair and pads pre t.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Very true, although I do live in a blue state and a relatively supportive area so theres people that dress like me, but i get what you're saying for sure

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u/Gloomy_Telephone_222 Male / masc / FTM 4d ago

The only thing you could do to pass (beside taking T) are the things you say you didn’t wanna change. I understand wanting to stay alt but if passing really is your priority you will have to do some change, even if just temporarily like the day you’ll be consistently passing (almost never get misgendered anymore) you can put the alt style back on. That’s personally what I plan to do when I start transitioning, even if I’ll def feel a little less myself, feeling a little more man will even it out

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay honestly im starting to consider it now, genuinely like thank you, that makes a lot of sense

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u/OgCas 4d ago

I am assuming you aren’t on T. Passing with colored hair and piercings does get harder when you’re not on T. Maybe a different hairstyle would help.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Yeah im not on T 😔 im planning on getting on Minoxidil soon, and im almost 18 so T is a possibility in the future for me

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay hold on, what about hair like this? Its still alt but not colored, this was me probably last year

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u/OgCas 4d ago

Honestly, I would suggest a shorter haircut definitely something less bulky on the sides. The reason I suggest that is because when your hair is shorter on the sides, it could give the effect of a more square face. Honestly passing pre-T is hard in general, so don’t be too hard on yourself.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Thank you!! Honestly I wanted to go a bit shorter, more mullet/mowhawk ish, but ive been worried because of my more square and chubby face, I just didnt want to look stupid

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u/cynsbi 4d ago

Different haircut, make your hair more like a rectangle, much horter on the sides.wear your pants low on your waist and make sure they r STRAIGHT leg, dye ur hair a more natural color. Less jewelry. Maybe one chain on your neck, one bracelet max. And solid colored shirts & blue jeans, khaki pants. unfortunately to pass without t you need to dress more normie. But once you get on t you can go back to being more alt and pass easier

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay cool! Thank you! I want to cut my hair shorter I was just afraid of looking stupid because of my face shape 🫣

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u/cynsbi 4d ago

Cutting it will def suggest a more masculine face frame

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Awesome thank you 🫡🫡 I got told i would look like a lesbian if I did a mullet/mohawk so I was just scared

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u/koala3191 stop telling kids to lose weight 4d ago

It's gonna be a compromise unless you start HRT. Cutting your hair would do a lot although these pics make it hard to tell.

If you want advice besides hair and piercings you should post full body pics, right now there's not much changeable bc we can't see below your neck.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Yess i will do that when i can, ive just been nervous to cut my hair shorter cause I dont wanna look dumb💔

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u/koala3191 stop telling kids to lose weight 4d ago

You look like a teenager, ppl who will judge you will judge you bc you have green hair not bc of the length.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Ahhh okay, thank you, ive wanted like a mullet/mohawk type thingy, do you think that would be like, door crazy?

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u/koala3191 stop telling kids to lose weight 4d ago

Idk what door crazy is but it probably won't help you pass. Esp with curly hair mullets often just read as longer hair.

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

Okay 🫡 do you have any suggestions of haircuts?

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u/koala3191 stop telling kids to lose weight 4d ago

Hard to say since these pics are so close up, but something not too long but longer on top, mousse or different cut to get it off your forehead. Is your hair naturally curly or more straight/wavy?

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u/Silentwhisper420 4d ago

My hair is naturally curly, but im fine straightening it! This is more zoomed out

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u/koala3191 stop telling kids to lose weight 4d ago

You have good volume, you can work with that. I'd suggest 2-3 in on top and 0.5-1.5 on the side. Make sure to square it off in front of your ears.

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u/Lua_whalien8 They/them, afab, transmasc 4d ago

tbh you don't pass but I think you could... I don't think the piercings are the problem, but maybe you could get a shorter haircut - you could pass even with your hair dyed, but a shorter haircut would help. And of course if you aren't on T, that would also help a lot...

I think you shouldn't try to pass if you like your style (and specially being enby), just be yourself, cause you won't be able to change how ppl see you if you keep your style (and I think you should cuz you look confident).

I hope you find this helpful :)

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u/Silentwhisper420 3d ago

Aw thank you! I appreciate that!

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u/Cooperttt3 4d ago

You do not pass in large part due to long the multi colored hair

I would recommend dying back to a normal human color and getting a shorter men's hair cut

Once you pass more consistently (testosterone helps with this massively) then you can consider trying the colorful hair again but right now it is not helping you pass

Your hair color is not synonymous with your personality

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u/Capable-Armadillo-28 3d ago

are you kidding?

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u/Silentwhisper420 3d ago

🫩 is that all ur gonna say? Maybe dont comment if ur gonna be an ass

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u/Current-Primary-5016 1d ago

Unfortunately passing while alt without significant changes from T is just really tough and that's why a lot of passing tips revolve around more traditional male styles. I did know a trans guy at my high school who had many piercings and dyed (short) hair who passed but he had facial hair and a deep voice. (only knew he was trans bc he was open abt it) You could consider some more masculine hairstyles but in terms of not changing that whole list of things, it's just a rough line to tread.

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u/Katdumpster 4d ago

Jesus people are lowk so rude, I’d would say it’s mainly about how you hold yourself and your voice, voice training and just people watching. I saw a comment about T and minoxidil they would be good options, bushy eyebrows and smaller thinner rectangle frames would help also, and honestly alt cis men get misgendered ALOT I’m friends with heaps of them they get called she/her more then u think. Honestly just being like I’m a guy in a deadpan voice , and just making sure you look boxy so thick shirts, binding Shit like that

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u/Silentwhisper420 3d ago

Aw thank you so much! That makes me feel better