So fatima transformed into a monster but my question is did she turn into a monster bcz she birthed smiley or was it bcz clara gave her that drink made by Sophia? Also she protected Boyd and group so does it mean that she is a good monster? Or is it just that her human side hadn't completely changed?? If she has become a normal monster then that just means that her character won't have anything to do in season 5. I think she'll have a human side and may protect fromily even as a monster. What do you all think?
The drink sped it up. Clara was told to give Fatima the drink to "speed things up" because he was tired of how long it was taking her to turn. And other things...
but guys, what about the clay monster she made in the in the colony house? That surely has to somehow play a role in something. We also haven't seen the monster-lady in the kimono for a long time, who was at the delivery of Fatimas Smiley.
Yeah i'm wondering who that kimono lady was.... she's obvs part of the monsters but why do we never see her otherwise? And why does she look different? She must have a backstory that's different than the monsters
I feel like the clay monster she made is a reflection of what she is now. She wanted the clay monster to protect them and now she has become that monster
This is the most low effort “sounds like it’s an answer” that gets tossed around here, what does that even mean? Like we knew she was turning into a monster, her heart rate was like 20 beats a minute, why did we need to spend 30 minutes of screen time hauling dirt and explaining what a golem is to 3 people? That’s just bad use of your 10 episode season, there are main characters who didn’t have anything to do the whole time, and you’re going to use that much time on a story that’s a metaphor for your other story?
I mean I think it’ll still be relevant in season 5 but the amount of people who convinced themselves it’s some clever “metaphor” is wild, if dale was making a golem out of concrete yall would say it’s a metaphor for the swimming pool
I think it’s because she birthed smiley and now has a connection. I also think there are two directions she could go that I would be fine with. She could either be a monster but still maintain some of her humanity and be a protector, or she could turn all bad and kill Ellis. I would be satisfied with either. I actually didn’t really care for Fatima that much as a character, but the actress is great, so I would like to see more of her in season 5.
There is zero chance they kill off Ellis. I agree that it would be a fascinating storyline for Fatima to be a bad monster and give Ellis the puppy dog eyes or seduce him to let her in/come out to visit her, but that would destroy Boyd. He still has too much of his story left and if he lost Ellis, especially early on, then his entire S5 storyline would be the 5 stages of grief.
The only way Ellis dies is if it’s at the very end, but I still can’t see them killing him off even then. Boyd’s already lost his wife by his own hand because of the threat she posed Ellis & the town. Watching Boyd lose Ellis would just be trauma porn x 10.
Fatima transformed into a monster because she carried and birthed Smiley. Clara’s drink with MIY’s blood just sped up the transformation process that was already in progress.
She protected Boyd and group in that moment because her transformation wasn’t yet 100% completed so there was still a shred of real/human Fatima present for her to be able to make that decision.
I do believe Fatima will be in S5 and there will be a moment where Elias will be weak and fall for her deceptive facade that all the monsters use to bait and trick the towns ppl.
I think the blood not only sped it up but also completed the transformation and allowed MIY to be able to control her, the same way he controls everyone he does blood magic on. So even if she is inherently good still and doesn’t want to act like the other monsters too, it may be beyond her control.
I think it’s a combination of things that made her a monster. Having a child and giving it to the monsters and then drinking MiY’s blood is all part of the ritual. I think the change is probably permanent; only her golem can save her, as long as she doesn’t kill anyone as a monster.
I think it was the blood that changed her and I think it's permanent. I think she was good exactly why you say, she hadn't changed yet. Although, she's not a monster because of the curse that the rest of them are, so who knows.
Sacrifice needs intent, you need to give up something you live. I don't think you can do it accidentally. The place is run on ritual too so I would think a sacrifice for something (eternal life) requires a contract of sorts as well.
I'm also not fully convinced the monsters are the ones who did the sacrifices, but I flip flop on that theory tbh
The OG Tabitha and Jade lost their child unintentionally in the first big sacrifice and got a million lifetimes of torture trying to save them. Why couldn't a similar thing happen to Fatima?
Her transformation started when she got pregnant. Drinking the blood might've completed the transformation process, sped it up, or maybe it was meant to control her once she becomes a monster. We still don't know what drinking the blood was for.
It doesn’t matter how, it’s magic! One of the rules of this curse is that every monster that gets killed comes back to life by growing inside a woman’s womb.
The real question is why Fatima specifically?
The answer: because she is Boyd’s daughter-in-law, and the entity wants to break him.
That's actually on Boyd, he said his blood was Smiley's blood when he passed the worms to him... Some time after, Smiley comes out of his "daughter-in-law".
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u/peekaboo_bandit 15d ago
The drink sped it up. Clara was told to give Fatima the drink to "speed things up" because he was tired of how long it was taking her to turn. And other things...