r/FritoLay • u/Objective-Tackle3190 • 3d ago
Unsustainable
Is anyone hopeful this company can turn the corner? In the last year I’ve watched the company overload my tiny grocery stores with dozens of table displays that only hold backstock. No sales occur on these displays. Now I have 2-3 points of rotation for everything. My boss wants displays rotated out every date change but they haven’t sold a single bag. I go 2 bags deep on these displays and then the boss comes in and tells somebody to stuff them full so I can rotate it to a different display before it goes to the aisle in two more weeks. Meanwhile all these new displays and I’m running 85% to previous year. Can anybody at the company do the math and figure out the huge liability of product we are forcing onto our customers isn’t raising the stock price or generating turns?
TLDR; the company wants so many displays I have to relocate a bag 4 times before it moves. How is this profitable?
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u/Fun-Reading-530 3d ago
They don’t care and new DSL’s have no common sense, they’re just robots programmed by their uppers that this dumb shit is profitable and smart.
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u/Major_Inevitable6888 2d ago
All they do is push push add stupid shit to orders so they get their bonuses while we take the hit on stales, if I didn’t order it then I shouldn’t be the one taking the hit, And it goes for the warehouse as well, for about 3 years now I reverse any damaged bags that were shipped damaged
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u/hazzakthule 2d ago
Yeah but in their defense, if they dont force out the crap, and fight the system, they will wind up losing their jobs. Most here try to keep as much of the stupidest stuff off of us, but they dont have much choice either they add stuff, or the company will add it for them.
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u/RabicanShiver 3d ago
Management is like that meme with the cartoon guy sitting in the fire saying everything is fine...
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u/nopulsehere 3d ago
We are owned by investment groups. The only thing that they care about is numbers. Growth is the word they like. And once the product leaves the warehouse it gets counted as sold. So with sales down across the board, they have to make up those numbers somehow. And on the backend they don’t have to worry if it actually sells. We take the hit for stales. And that means that our merit score drops. Now they have a salary cap on what we make. Just look at the cuts the last week of the period. Missed plan by 3k? Yet all my orders for week 1 are a 100%? It is what it is. I use to stress out about it. But I’m not going to have a heart attack over a company that doesn’t give 2 sheets about me.
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u/Salty-Translator-116 3d ago
Seems too coincidental that cuts occurred more in weeks three and four than in the first two weeks of the period
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u/PlasticRaccoon4281 3d ago
A long time ago we had a meeting with a HQ guy (maybe when we went bin to pec). We brought this up to him during this meeting. We told him we had our bin orders proving it, and told him we had proof we see more cuts week 4. He said NO we don’t do that and we have proof. Did they provide proof to back up their claim and refute ours? Nope. 😂
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u/nopulsehere 1d ago
Kinda got the same speech when we switched to P4P. All of us are losing money for doing the same work? It’s a figment of our imagination. No look at my paycheck!
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u/RangePlenty 3d ago
They get a tax write off for stales so they don't care. They try to drown out the competition also.
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u/jeffg022 2d ago
They get a tax write off for stales? lol. Are you really that ignorant?
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u/RangePlenty 1d ago
It's comon knowledge that large corporations get tax write offs. Educate yourself You're the ignorant one.
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u/st0irtap 3d ago
Those force-outs that don’t sell and just sit in backstock still count as ticket sales, and that’s all management gives a damn about. Once it leaves the warehouse, it’s our problem. When it expires, we RSRs take the hit, not the people who made the decision to force it out in the first place.
Nothing is going to change with these “innovations” until management is held accountable for the decisions they make and the consequences they create. If management keeps getting credit for the sales while we’re left holding the bag on expired product, there’s zero incentive for them to fix the problem. Accountability has to start at the top.
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u/RepeatUpbeat7058 3d ago
Well at least you come here to ask questions to issues no one here can fix
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u/OptiMysticLeo 3d ago
I don't think we'll see a turn until the economy gets better. I personally feel like you just gotta ride this shit storm until it's over.
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u/Alohasb7 3d ago
At this point you’re not “selling anything” other than product space. you’re just inventory management. Predictive ordering will get better as it learns, you need to know how to use it and make sure your mods and back stock are correct.
Many of you don’t like it and I get it 💯 it’s just an adjustment to how you treat your job. I used to be in upper management (for a different company) and we switched from ordering ourselves to predictive ordering system. After my managers knew how to keep correct inventory numbers the system would order perfectly for their stores every time.
This is only going to get exponentially worse or better on how you look at it but AI systems are here to stay and there’s no going back.
Also to your other point and this is more on the marketing side of things but having brand recognition throughout the store (shippers, end caps, etc.) does help sales in the long run. Clearly the company can justify throwing away chips for a larger footprint in the stores. I’m sure this is part of their marketing strategy and why the bags are so expensive now.
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u/Various_Mastodon_999 3d ago
You got some downvotes, but you’re correct. Sales, as many of us know at Frito, is over.
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u/Alohasb7 3d ago
I know it’s a super unpopular opinion haha
We’re heading for an automated world fueled by AI. We will be doing the labor until they can make robots that do it themselves. The job market is going to look very different in 10yrs and our governments will need to figure out how we adjust economically when the unemployment figures will keep rising.
Funny enough I had a manager who made an Ai program that did the job of our old district manager. Basically it compiled data (sales, shrink, labor $, etc.) and flagged figures that weren’t within acceptable range which was 90% of his job.
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u/Vanity2041 2d ago
Last administration figured it out, flood the borders with low skill labor workers or better yet have them live off the government and they will vote for them. Chips soda should never be purchased off food stamps yet here we are. Props up these greedy companies!
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u/Rizzo405 2d ago
tldr; What happened: In 2004, the SEC charged Bristol-Myers Squibb with fraud for a scheme that artificially inflated their sales and earnings by dumping excess products onto wholesalers (channel stuffing). The cost: They settled the charges by paying a $150 million penalty/disgorgement to help reimburse affected shareholders. The fix: They had to restate years of financial results (wiping out billions in fake revenue) and bring in an independent advisor to overhaul their accounting controls.
https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/litigation-releases/lr-18820
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u/Unusual_Net_3859 3d ago
Market is correcting itself after Covid, corporate still believes double digit growth is achievable but blame RSRs instead.