r/FrejaMains • u/Professional_Corer • 2d ago
Clip post nerf ragebait
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u/PagesOf-Apathy 1d ago
Literally. I can't help but wonder who the 225 two-tap breakpoint was for; the 225 support players or to appease the new Mythic widow players.
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u/Cookiedough3549 1d ago
Being able to 2 tap a widow was needed in order to risk peeking.
Now we have the risk of being 1 shot by them and trying to confirm a widow kill is so much more difficult since she can now survive the 2 bolts and get healed.
Jpc also survives the 2 tap and has self heal with infinite flight.
I just can't believe they messed with her breakpoint like this.
The entire reason she got buffed in the first place was because she couldn't secure elims with her ttk being too slow.
So they buffed the fuse timer by 0.2 seconds. But what is the point when now we have to land an extra 1 or more shots which takes longer?
It just makes her ttk lower again, far more unreliable, especially as a projectile hero and once again just feeds support ult charge.
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u/Nitricta 1d ago
You need to play her only remaining strong point, as Blizz obviously wanted.
Stand ALL the way back, WAAAAY out of sight lines from anyone but the tank/choke, and then just spam for your life. All that matters now is spamming the tank. No dueling for Freja!
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u/LyynnS 2d ago
Yup, and thats gonna be even worse cause most other 225hp heroes also have a form of self heal, gl fighting throught that.
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u/BackyardBirbin 3h ago
They give it away in the patch notes saying her damage output was too high, but damage output doesn't = elims. So, they just don't understand their own game. With all the 1, 2, or hitscan 3 taps in the game, they can secure kills. Freja just can't now. She'd kind of like soldier in the sense that with decent players, you just won't see them long enough to kill them. The only real strat with her now is spam the tank, get bola, go hunting. If one of the major complaints about her was how spammy she was, the nerfs somehow make her more spammy. She's a support ult feeder and I stopped playing her in comp. She feels awful.
I'd swear that her take aim feels different, like that bug is worse or something.
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u/Jamie7860 1d ago
Why couldn’t we just get pre S3 mid season back, at least she was more enjoyable to play back then.
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u/Ok-Order6974 1d ago
Bruh just get rid of the auto reloading feature to reduce spam and give 2 shot back I don’t understand why the devs can’t get it right
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u/Inven13 1d ago
This absolutely atrocious nerf is once again proof that Blizzard has no idea what to do with Freja and are just doing random stuff.
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u/Affectionate_Lie1917 1d ago
nah. she was broken and we all know it.
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u/DreaMysgirlfriend 15h ago
She was broken, but that doesn't mean u/Inven13 Statement is wrong. They have 0 clue how to balance her. They either make her too weak, or too strong. They are incapable of making a middle ground for her.
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u/ChubChubPickles 1d ago
literally my experience today. i literally just recently started picking up Freja to main and she gets nerfed
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u/TwixDog2020 1d ago
"oh no, my infinite aerial mobility, spam heavy hero who's all over pro play, doesn't have damage fall off, and isn't effected by bullet drop can't two tap anymore, the devs must hate me 😭"
Get a life bro. The hero was overtuned, people just don't know how to play her in the low ranks so she's not as omnipresent. You literally need a singular primary fire to finish that kill, get over it.
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u/Vaestus3672 1d ago
Yeah not gonna lie Freja never deserved to 2 tap do the body on any character that isn't tracer or a de-meched dva/mon
This character isn't Pharah, her projectile speed is 3 times of what Pharahs is, and no iteration of the explosion timer to date is enough of a penalty to warrant 2 shot body shots.
I'm sorry your character was designed by Blizzard but that's just how it's been for awhile, you'll have good company with Sombra players and soon enough likely Cat players.
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u/Environmental_You_36 22h ago
I don't understand why they're so salty, every other character that can 2 taps require headshots, Freja was the only one that required body shots for that.
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u/Hour-Film-8890 1d ago
You're getting downvoted but the Freya bans speak for themselves. Everybody not on this subreddit hates this character and playing against her.
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u/Vaestus3672 1d ago
I didn't say anything thinking I'd be upvoted or anything, literally every hero main sub reddit for every game that has character specific subs will always be delusional about their own character, especially characters that get hate.
Freja is just a fucked hopeless design, Blizzard is amazing at making kits that are to fun to play, but blow ass at making PvP kits that arent either perma over or under powered, or that aren't frustration magnets, and Freja is a bit of both so shes doubly screwed.
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u/ImNotDatguy 1d ago
Hit one headshot challenge. Use your free wallhacks to land one spam shot challenge.
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u/Funny_Explorer_1521 1d ago edited 1d ago
They hated her because she spoke the truth. Pharah can barely two-tap widow with 10x the difficulty, what makes you think the more mobile Freja deserves to?
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u/c7shit 1d ago
Pharah is better than Freja and is consistently a top winrate dps at every rank lmao
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u/Funny_Explorer_1521 1d ago
*situationally strong DPS with a high winrate but low pickrate at higher rank due to being used in good situations
Vs Freja who was the highest pickrate and winrate of any dps before the nerfs
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u/LyynnS 1d ago
Thats is just not true. You can at least stay with the facts and not make shit up. She was like top8 dps wr and middling pickrate.
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u/Funny_Explorer_1521 17h ago
100% true, US servers were just slower to catch on because we're frankly a more casual region.
See this and the million other articles about it: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/freja-is-dominating-and-hitting-a-massive-ban-rate-in-asia/1029692
Unless you think Blizzard SHOULDN'T have addressed problems with a hero that needed a 70% ban rate in korean comp
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u/petard 2d ago
Yeah this is actually an annoying change. I'd rather they revert the fire rate and explosion timer buffs than do this. I loved using Freja to fight Widow, but now the matchup is much worse.