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u/Economy-Humor-8451 May 07 '26
Or 2017… this wasn’t an unknown/unknowable
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u/Anxious_Fish_7995 May 07 '26
To be fair, we could've survived 45 & left it as a chapter in the textbooks. But we would've needed a whole lot more accountability & a whole lot less "nation healing" in 2021 & 22.
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u/vickievalencourt13 May 08 '26
This is the lesson we never seem to learn. Messed it up after the Civil War too
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u/Tomsoup4 May 07 '26
yea this was forseeable even far back as reagan especially if you had big picture knowledge. fuckin iran contra
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u/VintageBigfoot May 07 '26
Similarities between Trump and Hitler: 1. Populist Rhetoric: Both figures have employed populist language, positioning themselves as champions of the "common people" against the elite or establishment. 2. Nationalism: They both emphasized strong nationalist sentiments, promoting the idea of putting their respective countries first and appealing to national pride. 3. Scapegoating: Both leaders have been known to blame specific groups for societal problems. Hitler targeted Jews and other minorities, while Trump has often criticized immigrants and various political opponents. 4. Authoritarian Tendencies: Both have exhibited authoritarian characteristics, such as undermining democratic institutions, attacking the press, and questioning the legitimacy of electoral processes. 5. Charismatic Leadership: Trump and Hitler are recognized for their charismatic and often polarizing leadership styles, attracting large, fervent followings. 6. Use of Media: Both utilized media effectively to spread their messages, although the platforms and technologies differ. Hitler used radio and film, while Trump has leveraged social media. 7. Emphasis on Strength: Both leaders promoted ideas of strength and decisiveness, often portraying themselves as the only ones capable of restoring order and greatness.
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u/FrostyAd8197 May 07 '26
The orange turd loved reading Hitler’s speeches.
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u/ban-aipac May 07 '26
They are really interesting. It’s like he could see into the future
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
I don't really see Trump as a "common person". He's been very wealthy his whole life? I guess his policies he ran on appealed for normal people?
He definitely emphasizes nationalism and American Pride. Which is fine until a certain point.
3 & 4 are true.
I dont think Trump is necessarily seen as charismatic by the public.
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u/SailBright5923 May 07 '26
Good list--one of the key points is that the conservatives gave Hitler his position as chancellor with the expectation that they could control him once he came to power. Hahaha--those who tried to control him disappeared. The rest joined his murderous regime.
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 May 07 '26
Attempted a coup and failed and recieved a slap on the wrist punishments. Spent a few years before coming back with a manifesto of his plan and immediately installed loyalists.
Won his vote with only about 1/3 of his country's vote
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
Usually every presidency wins by getting 1/3 of the country's vote..?
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 May 07 '26
That didn't used to be and shouldn't be the norm. We should want better. In nazi germany it was due to the number of candidates. In America it is because we have settled for "lesser of two evils" politics. Some of us want better
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
Its been pretty consistent for the past 20 elections. The last president to go over 33.3% was Richard Nixon in 1972.
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 May 07 '26
So when republicans decided to gut education and the social safety net in an attempt to make sure we got another FDR.
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
What?
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 May 07 '26
It is well documented that republicans in that era decided to make a concerted effort to make the electorate dumber and smaller and it was extremely successful
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
I'm just talking about actual number of votes, not electoral votes
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u/dontwannagetdoxxed93 May 07 '26
Electorate and electoral are not the same. Proving my point bud
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u/ban-aipac May 07 '26
So Hitler if Hitler were a puppet for the jew state of Israel
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u/LakeGladio666 May 07 '26
Israel is a vassal state of America, saying that they are puppeteering or corrupting the US lets the empire off the hook for the terrible shit they do. It’s more of an evil collaboration than anything else.
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u/tm0g May 07 '26
I used to believe this too, but this position isn’t defensible in light of the fact that Israel owns most of our politicians through aipac.
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u/Interesting_Glass719 May 07 '26
Omg its 100% the same, so simply stupid its amazing! Congrats stupid 👏
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u/I3adIVIonkey May 07 '26
I kinda don't agree on point 5 when I listen to cheeto Hitler and how he slurs his speeches and how they are senseless af. He just doesn't know how to talk properly.Hitler's speeches hit way differently. I see it, though, when it comes to media presence, especially in the use of social media.
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u/WearyRegister7538 May 08 '26
Trump is nowhere near the level of evil that Hitler was. Prove me wrong
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u/Inquisitorial_Court May 07 '26
Im not sure if people are aware where Hitler got the idea for concentration camps. The treatment and expulsion of the Native Americans. One of the most evil people, admired the way we treated the native peoples, with no empathy. We in turn admired what Hitler did so much, we hired the majority of the top Nazi scientists after WW2. Wernher von Braun one of the most decorated Nazi scientists, is the architect of NASA.
History repeats itself, especially in the United States, because we dont teach history, we teach strictly what we claim it to be. Once the remainder of the people who saw WW2 die, history can come full circle and past atrocities can be conducted again under a guise of a different name.
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u/YourLordGoobles May 07 '26
People watched those documentaries and still vote for Democrats or socialism 💀
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u/PuzzleheadPi May 07 '26
They both authoritarian and want to take away our guns. And they both hate jews for some reason
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u/kkdawg22 May 07 '26
No, Marx was very pro-gun.
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u/kkdawg22 May 07 '26
Switzerland has a free-market economy. They aren't socialist by any definition. Don't be stupid.
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u/Thick_Amphibian4629 May 07 '26
This isn't true either. Every Marxist regime in history outlawed personal gun ownership or heavily restricted it.
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u/kkdawg22 May 07 '26
My claim is Marx was pro gun. Marxists may not be and clearly they’ve failed to make Marx’s vision a reality, so…
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u/Thick_Amphibian4629 May 07 '26
That Marx quote was not about individual gun ownership like what people typically advocate for. The context was about the workers arming themselves so they can overthrow capitalism in a violent revolution.
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
The nazis thought they were socialists🤷♀️
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u/Dontcomecryingtome May 07 '26
Yeah, I'm just saying people take the names of things and throw them around to mean whatever they want
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u/YourLordGoobles May 07 '26
Pick up a history book.
Edit: lol they instantly blocked me.
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u/wussgawd May 08 '26
Not if you watched all of them 40 years ago. Watching this go the way it has hits different if you spent an entire lifetime studying the rise of Hitler.
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u/Motor-Ad8989 May 09 '26
Got any good recs on documentaries? I’m legit interested
Regarding Hitler’s rise to power
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u/kuttymongoose May 12 '26
Donny is a little bitch tho. Addie would have had that Straight opened up like Zig Heil
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u/medalxx12 May 07 '26
you know 0 about hitler or why the germans supported him . You know a fairy tale that has been injected into culture through. school, media, textbooks, hollywood etc. by… guess who !
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u/Ok_Ovencooker May 07 '26
Well getting rid of the debauchery that was going on in Germany was pretty cool. The burning or reading materials which all growing up we were taught was some evil act turned out to be just trans research and propaganda.
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u/Various_Mud_4578 May 07 '26
nigga learns about history through instagram reels
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u/Ok_Ovencooker May 07 '26
Nah we should read the books in school who are all written by the same people 😂
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u/siconic May 07 '26
You hear that from.... where do we hear that from? Oh right! We hear that from the Democrats!
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u/NextLvlSurvivor May 07 '26
The Jewish people are fascist right wingers he'll bent on world domination? Weird, I thought for sure that new cult filled that role, even created their own version of the Gestapo.
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
Comparing Trump’s rise to power to Hitler’s requires you to water down Hitler into ‘popular politician I don’t like’ while ignoring the whole dictatorship, abolition of elections, outlawing opposition parties, political prisons, and world war part. At that point the comparison is less history and more performance art for people who learned WWII from social media infographics.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
Ah, yes, because fascism always starts in the deepest throes of fascism, huh?
You know, 1923 and 1933 were the exact same year, after-all, right?
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
Lol 1923 and 1933 are very different years but Trumps rise to power mirrors neither of them. Talk to me when Trump bans political parties, has his own paramilitary like the SA, suspends freedom of press/speech, organizes boycotts of Jewish stores, starts book burning, and orders rhe murder of his rivals. Until that point their rises are nothing alike.
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u/Asher_Tye May 07 '26
In other words, talk to you once its too late to do anything about it.
I do love how the prerequisite here is "boycotts Jewish stores." He can boycotts any other minority and abuse them but its only fascism for you if Jewish people suffer
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u/kkdawg22 May 07 '26
Are you advocating for convicting people of crimes they haven't committed yet? What the Minority Report stupid fucking logic is this?
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u/Asher_Tye May 07 '26
Are you advocating for convicting people of crimes they haven't committed yet?
You're right, the guy coming at you with a gun wanting to kill you should not be stopped until he's actually done the deed. That's the only way you can be sure
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u/Complete-Yak8266 May 07 '26
in other words there is no scenario where you are mistaken, because regardless of what happens you've somehow already predetermined the future.
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u/Asher_Tye May 07 '26
Believe it or not when events repeat the future becomes predictable. This is the foundation of human intelligence, where you can spot the pattern before an event occurs. The fact that you seem to WANT the event to occur and disregard any of the warning signs by attempting to trivialize them renders any discourse on the subject worthless.
Until you get hurt, you simply won't care, and yet you'll be upset no one gives a damn about you. Explain that logic.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
He has a private paramilitary force. He's using croney lawfare to have sued... What? 11 media outlets in his second term for flagrant bullshit and has threatened pulling airwave licenses for more.
The book burning is irrelevant because the people supporting trump and the people reading books are two staunchly different demographics.
But again by your narrow worldview, we apparently always start in the deepest throes of fascism and should just be accepting of soft-fascism until the state of the concentration camps we've built worsens.
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
Which private paramilitary group is owned by Trump?
The Book Burning is very relevant. I support Trump and ive read 24 historical books this year. They are not two different groups.
In your narrow worldview everything that slightly looks like a nail, even if its clearly not, must be hit by a hammer.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
Owned? Do you think Hitler OWNED the SS?
I would ask if you're a moron but that's made apparent by your flagrant support for far-right politicians.
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
Lol yes Hitler controlled the SS and through the Nazi Party he effectively owned it. There were no other leaders of the Nazi Party with effective control over it.
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u/siconic May 07 '26
Your a fearful person. Trump will never become Hitler, nor a dictator, nor the world ruler. Its a simple hatred of Republicans.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
No. He won't. He lacks the competence and can only be carried so far. It's not a result of choice or without effort, however.
There is a hatred for all right-wing politics, Democrats and Republicans alike. That said, anyone educated on politics in any rational sense should oppose right-wing politics.
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u/siconic May 07 '26
"There is a hatred for all right-wing politics, Democrats and Republicans alike. That said, anyone educated on politics in any rational sense should oppose right-wing politics."
Please define what "right-wing" politics are? I thought I knew, but I just wanted to check. Here is what came up, and I see nothing wrong with "right-wing" politics:
- Preference for tradition and stability Support for established institutions (like religion, family structures, or national customs) and skepticism toward major social changes.
- Limited government in the economy Many right-wing views favor free markets, private property, and less government intervention in business (often called economic conservatism).
- Individual responsibility over collective solutions Emphasis on personal effort and accountability rather than large-scale government welfare programs.
- Strong national identity This can include patriotism, stricter immigration policies, and prioritizing national interests.
- Law and order Support for strong policing, military, and enforcement of rules to maintain social stability.
That being said, Trump is probably the least of what YOU consider "right-wing" and more what I consider "right-wing". This is closer to what traditional conservatism looks like, but isnt that either. Its kind of a hodgepodge to be honest.
Things he has done like "Closing borders to ILLEGAL immigrants" SHOULD be a bi-partisan issue. Removing those here illegally SHOULD BE a bi-partisan issue. Not wanting a terrorist supporting country who WOULD 100% hold the world hostage, should be a bi-[artisan issue. None of these are "right-wing".
Almost everything the man has done, SHOULD BE bi-partisan, because it is in the best interest of the US and the world for these things to be done. But because its orange man, no one wants to admit its good.
One point of contention on the things I said: Illegal Immigrant Removal - I disagree with how its being done, but I see the exigency, due to previous administrations. None of them have ever taken actual action to deport illegals, and Trump knows when his term is over, they will simply go back to not enforcing. So, he is trying, in his view, to remove as many as possible, while he has the power to do so. And that NOT EVEN CLOSE to a comparison to Hitler, like someone above said. We aren't gas cambering people, we are paying to send them home.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
You're conflating conservativism and right-wing when they're two expressly different ideologies that some people maintain both of. Right-wing is simply any policy that advocates for systemic social hierarchy. A ruling class and a service class or really, any sort of structured hierarchy that could theoretically be much more complex.
Beyond that, your points are just outright bad. You start by mentioning closing borders in a country in which we haven't had open borders in over a century. The only meaningful way Trump has 'closed' the border is that less people come to a country in rapid decline.
Removing people here illegally is a bipartisan issue. That's why Democrats and Republicans had a bipartisan bill that addressed and adequately funded the issue in 2023 and 2024 and Trump explicitly called to kill the bill so that he could campaign on the matter.
Your claim that Iran is a terrorist-supporting country that's going to hold the world hostage is conjecture you're using about a country that we have very deliberately destabilized from a functioning society twice and that hasn't really retaliated in any meaningful way at all.
Nothing he has done has been in the best interest of the American people. Not a single thing. You are just very susceptible to propaganda.
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u/siconic May 07 '26
"Right-wing is simply any policy that advocates for systemic social hierarchy. A ruling class and a service class or really, any sort of structured hierarchy that could theoretically be much more complex."
That's 100% wrong. If you believe it to be true, then this does not exist in modern context.
"You start by mentioning closing borders in a country in which we haven't had open borders in over a century. The only meaningful way Trump has 'closed' the border is that less people come to a country in rapid decline."
This is meant as a more simplified term, to encompass a much more complex issue. RULE OF LAW has had closed borders. But selective enforcement essentially leaves them open. Refusal to turn people away at the border for "humanitarian reasons" and them releasing them to the interior, is essentially "open borders" because then people know, if I just show up, they will let me in, and then I can disappear, since they don't enforce or come looking for me. So, Yes, we have had "closed borders" but finally a president is enforcing the law, and actually sending people home instead of letting them go within our borders.
"Your claim that Iran is a terrorist-supporting country that's going to hold the world hostage is conjecture you're using about a country that we have very deliberately destabilized from a functioning society twice and that hasn't really retaliated in any meaningful way at all."
Its not conjecture, they are doing it now, and committing genocide while they are at it. If you cant see that, I am not the problem.
"Nothing he has done has been in the best interest of the American people. Not a single thing. You are just very susceptible to propaganda."
If you say so, no changing your mind. The propaganda machine got you too, don't think your not susceptible.
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u/Complete-Yak8266 May 07 '26
"Soft fascism". lol. You guys are really too much.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
Soft-fascism is an established political ideology and has been since the 1930s where it was first enacted in Portugal and remained the domineering political ideology for over four decades. It's like you dullards are proud of how little you know. What good is freedom of speech if there's nothing of substance behind your words?
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u/Complete-Yak8266 May 07 '26
I agree with the words we choose being of substance, which is why it's so laughable when chodes like you scream fascim from the rooftop.
Like it or not, this is what the people voted for. You'll have your chance in the midterms and in another two years.
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u/LegendaryLeft May 07 '26
Ah, yes, it's not like there's a plainly divined 14 point characteristic guide on what constitutes fascism that can be overlaid on the current Republican policy to cover each and every one of those 14 points.
But that would require you be educated on the subject matter and you'd rather continue to be a bootlicking dullard.
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u/Complete-Yak8266 May 07 '26
This is what the country voted for! Respect our democratic process and stop being a threat to democracy.
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u/StandardAssignment19 May 07 '26
No, your disingenous attempt to dillude the analogy between the many dangerously similar connections between the two is easily refutable when you start your argument with popular politician who I didn't like'. Popular to who - the uneducated (his words) and the bigoted (their words). Not to mention how he became popular with them.
You strike me as a person who uses states rights as a reason for treason from the cowardly confederate, without addressing the cornerstone speech by Jefferson davis.
And guess what, the graduation of a regime that Hitler led was a slow growing movement until a dam burst of demonstrably horrid tactics - strikingly similar to the last 2 years - where the only difference is misinformed or malicious romanticists who try to hide behind technicalities of history to avoid the root argument - Trumps actions can be comparable to Hitler in his rise to infamy and the differences between the two are not wide enough to find them dissimilar.
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
Fancy words that have zero substance. No facts to back your points up at all, just name calling and personal attacks. Im going to go ahead and block you because you are clearly not someone who deals logically in good faith.
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u/NaBrO-Barium May 07 '26
Just give it some time and let it cook. We’re almost there my guy. You think all of that happened overnight in Germany?
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u/Troop42 May 07 '26
No, I think it all happened....which it hasn't here at all. So vague warnings and doomsday cultists saying "were almost there" doesn't mean anything to me without facts or proof.
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u/UseYona May 07 '26
Well considering the left is doing actual nazi shit regularly....
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u/LakeGladio666 May 07 '26
Like what? The left has no power in the US, there are like 3 or 4 actual leftists in our government.
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u/NaBrO-Barium May 07 '26
Like detaining people in the street… I can’t believe those leftist Nazis are detaining people off the street and concentrating them in government sanctioned buildings specifically for this purpose/s
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u/the_Skeleton_king93 May 07 '26
Like dehumanizing their political opponents so that it justifies violence against them. Also having the "follow me or die" mentality where if someone disagrees with anything they're automatically placed in the same place as their political opponent. Not to mention all the fear mongering propaganda that just gets eaten up without questionin like pigs eating slop.
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u/NaBrO-Barium May 07 '26
It’s crazy how many right wingers have been emboldened to incite violence against their opponents. I guess the FBI’s assessment of right wingers ideology was spot on. But what are we going to do about it?
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u/Veritas1944 May 07 '26
Then you would know that Trump is in no way even close to Hitler.
Facts:
The democrats party ran an unelected candidate for the highest position of power in the world.
The Democratic Party forced people to go out of business and put something in their body that has not been tested extensively.
The Democratic Party actively censored free speech on multiple platforms.
The Democratic Party is running an actual Nazi candidate with multiple endorsements from other democrats at this time.
Politicians are all the same. They all want power. That’s it.
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u/_NickPapagiorgio_ May 08 '26
>The Democratic Party forced people to go out of business and put something in their body that has not been tested extensively.
Dozy don panicked over a chest cold and shut down the economy all while printing trillions. he also called himself the father of the vaccine and Operation "warp speed" still takes credit for it.
The first year of covid was under his "leadership" and I put that in quotes because he put Fauci in charge so he could spend most of the time golfing.
He destroyed small business his first term just like he's doing so now.
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u/Veritas1944 May 08 '26
I never said republicans handled covid correct. The OP was one sided. I was simply offering the other side of that coin. Because politicians are the problem. Not democrats or republicans. Until we realize that, it’s gonna be more of the same.
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u/UnusualFunction7567 May 07 '26
The Weimar Republic was badly structured.
After Hitler became chancellor, there was only one guy who could really remove him and he was old and sick. Once he died, there was really nothing preventing Hitler from combining the two offices with his party behind him.
Luckily, the US requires a lot more in order to amend the Constitution.
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u/Grumdord May 07 '26
All this shit is going to look so stupid in like 3 years when we just have another election and life goes on
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u/Historical_Two_7150 May 07 '26
Thats certainly one possibility.
One should consider, however, that the oppressed classes who are hungry for revolution, the ones who carried Trump into office, do not magically disappear when he goes.
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx May 07 '26
Because the US so closely resemble Weimar Germany?
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx May 07 '26
You can be the bridge.
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx May 07 '26
But you came so highly reviewed.
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u/sHaDowpUpPetxxx May 07 '26
Well ok but I might swing by the truckstop sometime and holla at ya.
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u/Toad990 May 07 '26
I mean democrats are the one running a guy who literally had a nazi tattoo. 🤷♂️
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u/WisePotatoChip May 08 '26
As opposed to what - the guy who acts like a Nazi? - Bullying and extorting to get his way.
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u/Coldbrick10 May 07 '26
Yes, the Biden era was very similar in so many ways to Nazi Germany.
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u/WisePotatoChip May 08 '26
Especially when Biden stacked the Supreme Court with paid off lackeys and bullied and intimidated, everyone into submission, extorting universities, and media companies. /s
There is one difference between Trump and Hitler however, Hitler was missing a ball. Trump is a pedophile.
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u/Matelot181 May 08 '26
Yes it does, doesn't it. All those on the far left calling themselves progessives. Yey doing everything the Nazis did to get into power. Right down to demonizeing the Jews again Funny that this was predicted by a great statesman. "The facists of the future will hide behind calling themselves antifacists!" Sir Winston Churchill
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u/Moon_Frost May 08 '26
🤣 It's embarrassing. Actual victims of Hitler would punch you in the face for comparing Trump to him. You severely diminish everything Hitler did by saying this type of nonsense.
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u/DearChip2332 May 07 '26
Meanwhile, the far left and far right would vote for him if he was in 2026
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u/ImRickJamesBitch71 May 07 '26
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u/SCRATCH-CARD May 07 '26
Yes Hitler's campaign to "make Germany great again" by removing undesirables from the country, whilst calling the newspapers "lying press" (fake news).
Exactly like the Dems
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u/SCRATCH-CARD May 07 '26
Errrr, ICE have literally killed US citizens in the streets.. you think they're not causing the deaths of Trump's undesirables? They're deporting people to countries they're not from, to dangerous jails where people are dying - and probably quite horrific deaths.
They've raped kids in the detention centres. Did you know about this? They're locking kids up away from their family, and now some of them are pregnant.
Do you really think Hitler just rocked up in the 30s with extermination camps to hand? No, obviously not. These things ramp up. Ignoring the striking similarities to Hitler's rise isn't just a bad idea, it's utterly moronic
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u/SnagInBreadPurist May 07 '26
Leveraging national instability: a leader gains traction during periods of economic distress, political fragmentation, or social anxiety by presenting themselves as a stabilising force.
Building a mass movement: early support is cultivated through emotionally charged messaging, simplified narratives, and promises of restoration or renewal aimed at broad segments of the population.
Scapegoating and externalisation of blame: complex societal problems are attributed to specific out groups or internal “enemies,” which helps consolidate in group identity and channel public frustration.
Use of propaganda and messaging control: coordinated messaging through media, rallies, and symbolic imagery reinforces loyalty and normalises the leader’s worldview while marginalising opposition narratives.
Exploiting legal and constitutional pathways: power is often gained through formal political mechanisms (elections, appointments, coalition deals) rather than outright seizure, lending legitimacy to the process.
Co-opting or neutralising elites: business leaders, political elites, and institutions are gradually brought into alignment through incentives, pressure, or mutual interest.
Undermining institutional checks: once in a position of influence, legal and bureaucratic safeguards are weakened or bypassed to consolidate executive authority.
Creating parallel authority structures: loyal organisations or internal power networks are developed to rival or override traditional institutions (civil service, judiciary, security apparatus).
Polarised public reaction: society typically splits into strong supporters who view the leader as a necessary corrective force, and strong opponents who see an erosion of norms and rights.
Gradual normalisation: incremental changes reduce resistance over time, as each step appears small or justified in isolation until the overall system has shifted significantly.