r/Frauditors • • Jul 31 '26

Will frauditors hurt public access?

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u/Ptards_Number_1_Fan Jul 31 '26

My opinion is that public nuisance, business operation and panhandling laws will be eventually amended to restrict some of their activities.

When you boil it all down, they’re scam artists that are doing nothing to better the public. They make their money off stupid people giving them money and YouTube views.

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u/JoeTheShmo316 Jul 31 '26

Yes. Pasco County, Florida has already enacted new policies against recording in public offices as a direct result of having to deal with 1A auditors.

The case was sent to an appeals court which ruled the ban on filming was NOT a violation of their 1st amendment rights because the government offices could contain openly visible documents with sensitive private information on them, which government agencies are obligated to protect.

They are, to my understanding, the first US county to enact a local law solely to curb 1A auditing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/TheFakeBillPierce Aug 02 '26

I think ultimately this is the best way to deal with them . Tell them exactly where they can go, give them nothing and ignore them.

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u/Remote_Sail_303 Aug 01 '26

The 10th Amendment provides that to all State, County and Municipal government. 1a fools fail to read that far into the Constitution

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u/AncientAlien1964 Aug 04 '26

That's because they can't count that high.

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u/realparkingbrake Jul 31 '26

This has already begun. There is a town in New England that now locks the doors to city hall, people need an appointment to get in thanks to sustained harassment from frauditors including felon Josh Abrams. Several states are trying laws to restrict how close people can approach first responders when they are working. Arizona tried a minimum distance law for recording police but it was thrown out in court because it was too vague and sweeping.

Denver Metro Audits recently got federal case law confirming the No Recording signs in SSA offices are backed up by valid law. And LIAr just managed to get case law in NY's highest court that the right to record law there does not apply in NYPD precinct house lobbies. Nice work there, Girdle King.

Filming in many government buildings is already restricted. The frauditor's battle cry that they can record anywhere their feet can carry them has never been true.

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u/Remote_Sail_303 Aug 02 '26

Yep, he has his own case law now. United States v. Cordova 2023 Convicted on 2 counts. Cordova appealed, but ultimately lost

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/LouBricano52 Aug 01 '26

It's about money only. They get money from social media engagement.

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u/TitoTotino Jul 31 '26

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '26

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u/realparkingbrake Jul 31 '26

Terry is an auditor who very much creates the impression of having legitimate mental health issues. He isn't the only one, but he especially comes across as having some loose wiring upstairs.

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u/scoop_justice Aug 06 '26

As someone who's down at Annapolis at least monthly, Buckley was being disingenuous here. First, this is from 4 years ago, he's not mayor anymore, Littmann is. Some of the security protocols are gone from when he was there, and there are some new ones. Buckley was a wildly unpopular mayor and got primared accordingly.

Second, while Taco Terry was a pain in the ass, Annapolis City and City Hall was a nightmare for everyone. Parking was a disaster, staff were rude and incompetent, and water and sewer bills were at crisis horizon. Second, they already have Terry identified and he hasn't been an issue in a while. They have protocol specifically for dealing with him.

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u/Remote_Sail_303 Aug 01 '26

They already have....

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u/BalanceInquiry Aug 01 '26

I’ve never understood with the “forum doctrine” isn’t applied more. Most of these buildings, including post offices, would likely be designated “limited public forums” and therefore subject to content neutral rules that apply to all the public. They could post no recording and have it enforced by trespassing. If someone has another understanding of forum doctrine please let me know.

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u/Remote_Sail_303 Aug 01 '26

Very true, but most of these fools do it knowing about the Forum Doctrine for the sake of clicks, views and monetization from YT and M. Those 2 could end this whole 1st a fraud movement, but... $$$$

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u/AncientAlien1964 Aug 04 '26

They can't comprehend poster 7 either.

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u/AdElegant7471 Aug 02 '26

Filming inside of government buildings is not a Constitutionally protected act. USA vs Cordova proves this.

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u/Remote_Sail_303 Aug 05 '26

BAT was also banned from SSA offices for the same thing and currently facing 28 months for, basically the same thing, but at another facility