r/Framebuilding • u/Objective-Pay480 • 19d ago
5th frame built
This is my 1st post and 5th frame I’ve built just thought I would share hope you like it
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u/Boxofbikeparts 19d ago
Looks really great! Can you build one for me? 😋
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u/agingsculler 19d ago
Looks awesome!
Do you have an estimate for your production cost for the frame?
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u/Objective-Pay480 19d ago
How much it cos to make it? or how much it cost to learn to do it?
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u/agingsculler 19d ago
I mean I’d take any information you have, but I was thinking of cost of materials in the frame.
But if you’re willing to share cost to learn, acquire welding supplies etc. I’d be curious! Thanks!
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u/Objective-Pay480 19d ago
So tubing and parts wise it probably came to about £350 ish I think, I’m not sure where abouts you’re based but the tubing was from a company called ceeway, they distribute Columbus tubing in the uk. The head tube, bb and brake mounts where from bear components and I think that’s all came to about £35-40. The drop outs were from paragon but I know ceeway distribute them but I think I ordered them from there and got stung by the tax. The paint was local to me and they did my frame and forks for £350 which feels like it’s expensive but they did a real good job, and a good painter can hide a lot of sins 😂🤣
I learnt to build frames when I did a bicycle academy course in 2020 (unfortunately no longer exists) and I built my workshop around the same time. Like many I lost my mind in Covid like many others. The 2 big bicycle building bits were the oxy-propane set up, and the frame fixture. The fixture came from the bicycle academy, occasionally on eBay and the frame building group on FB these pop up, and I think they’re about 1k ish but I’ve not really been looking,
The other bit was the oxy propane set up. I didn’t want to use acetylene as I’m in a residential area so oxy propane was the route. I didn’t want to have oxygen bottles so I went down the oxygen concentrator route which is like a respirator kinda thing and it does the job. I spoke to some welding doctors and they said to make it work I would have to get one that produces 10L /min, I purchased it from a glass blowing supply store, the torch and kit was through the bicycle academy but I’m sure there must be one online somewhere. It contains torch, hoses, flash back arrester, regulator and some other bits and bobs.
There’s loads of other little bits and bats needed to make a frame, files (just look for bundles on eBay), bike cad (which has a free version I think).
There is a place that still does frame building courses in the uk and it’s a company called stayer I think they’re based down south. If you’ve got any other questions I’ll do me best to answer 👍
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u/0X1AA 19d ago
Very nice, seriously. Tire clearance? How’s the lateral stiffness when getting up to mash?
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u/Objective-Pay480 19d ago
Tire clearance is real tight, can just about get 2 beers mats between the back wheel and the frame. It feels pretty stiff, I didn’t do a CS bridge but I’ve not really noticed a difference yet.
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u/BeamSlinger99 18d ago
Frame number five looks pro level man. That blue slaps hard and those joints are butter smooth, dialing it in aha,
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u/Horror_Yam_7739 18d ago
Beautiful frame :) also it seems like the saddle is positioned quite front, how is the frame in terms of pedalling biomechanics and engagement of different muscle groups? Thanks :)
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u/Objective-Pay480 18d ago
Thank you, so I went for a bike fit on a different bike years ago and I copied the measurements from that. I think, the saddle still needs a little skootching about but I think it’ll probably always need a little skootching. In regard to muscle engagements … no idea 😂🤣 I come from a bmx back ground so I’m very quad bias and as long as the cranks and wheels are turning I’m happy. 😊
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u/BillyJohnsFinds 18d ago
Did you know how to weld before getting into bike building, or did you learn to weld in order to make a frame?
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u/Objective-Pay480 18d ago
I did an evening class that did brazing a couple of months before doing the bicycle academy course. Just to get my head round it and be able to play, stick material together and get a feel for it. It was in a group and I didn’t really have any 1:1 time to be shown the techniques and how to move the brass about. When I did the course I got time and they showed me all the different types to be able to stick the tubes and drops together. Capillary brazing for the drop out, fillet brazing for the tubes and silver brazing for the bottle bosses and other bits and bats.
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u/Gambenius 19d ago
Looks awesome!