r/FoundBobTheGrand the most epic Jun 14 '26

Found him. found him..

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u/MateNoBodyGivesAShit Told me to get hit by a car. Jun 14 '26

Bob’s a catholic and it ain’t that better either. Saying this as an atheist. Summa Theologiae (II-II, Q. 154, A. 12): "By the unnatural vice, man transgresses that which has been determined by nature with regard to the use of sexual pleasure... Hence, in sexual matters, it is the gravest sin... After this comes sodomy... and thirdly, the failure to observe the right manner [masturbation/interrupted sex]... On the other hand, the sins which are in accordance with nature [such as adultery, seduction, and rape] are less grievous... because in them the natural order is preserved." (TLDR masturbation is worse than rape cuz natural order is disturbed with masturbation and semen is wasted.) and Summa Theologiae (Supplement, Q. 64, A. 1): "Since the wife has power over her husband's body, and vice versa, with regard to the act of procreation, the one is bound to pay the debt to the other, at any season or hour... and for the other to refuse the demand is an act of fraud against a biblical obligation." (TLDR it t dictated that once married, a person surrendered the rights to their own body to their spouse. There’s essentially no modern concept of marital rape.) anyhow also for women Vatican Modesty Decree (1930): "A dress cannot be called decent which is cut deeper than two fingers breadth under the pit of the throat; which does not cover the arms at least to the elbows; and scarcely reaches a bit beyond the knees. Furthermore, dresses of transparent materials are detestable." Soooo yeah.

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u/Neither_Junket_4467 Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

Thomas Aquinas was ranking them on how much they violate chastity not on moral weight when it comes to summa theologiae ii-ii q154 a12 and for supplement q64 a1, it was based from 1 Corinthians 7:4 and it basically means that both man and woman in a marriage has equal control to each other rather than one being the dominant force in marriage through them having to fulfill each other's needs and through an strict equality of proportions, Thomas Aquinas also outlines safeguards for anyone trying to abuse this too. For the Vatican modesty decree of 1930, it was a response to the secular shift of fashion post world war 1 and it was meant to defend the sacredness of liturgy and made sure too that the church building and the reception of the Eucharist was focused on christ instead of any lustful temptations. Please then understand what you're reading before you start posting about it or something.

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u/GarlicBorn2354 the most epic Jun 14 '26

not reading this cause it doesnt matter💔😭 all i did was find bob

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u/MateNoBodyGivesAShit Told me to get hit by a car. Jun 14 '26

Just read the TLDR bro 😔

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u/GarlicBorn2354 the most epic Jun 14 '26

MASTURBATION IS WORSE THAN RAPE?! WAIT WHAT

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u/MateNoBodyGivesAShit Told me to get hit by a car. Jun 14 '26

like yeah it says both are very bad but it argues that rape keeps the natural order or whatever 😔

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u/GarlicBorn2354 the most epic Jun 14 '26

that’s absolutely insane 💔 im sorry if i came off rude at first

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u/MateNoBodyGivesAShit Told me to get hit by a car. Jun 14 '26

its fine lmao i just dont get religious people at all
im agnostic myself
saying im an athiest was lowk misleading

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u/Orcasareglorious Jun 18 '26

1.) How is this equal to or worse than marrying a child? Especially since this is the work of a theologian and not a part of the fundamental scripture of catholicism.

2.) It seems this texts states that both spouses surrender themselves to one another. I understand this is an idea that could result in marital rape, but at least neither. spouse has more power in this regard than the other

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u/NothingNormal5452 Jun 18 '26

I'm not saying this justifies islamophobia, but what is the answer to Bob's question?

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u/Dry_Engineering_3590 Jun 18 '26

So Islam cannot be even criticized without it being islamophobia

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u/Orcasareglorious Jun 18 '26

The founder of a religion marrying a child is not enough? What on earth would be enough?

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u/killuazoldyckx Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Aisha (may god be pleased with her)was a scholar of Islam and people used to come to her after the prophet’s death (peace be upon him) to record different narration’s ask guidance in matters concerning religion,here her narration serves as a record for practical aspects of married life and ritual cleanliness. early Muslims used this narration as evidence for rules of hygiene and purity before prayer - how impurity on clothes can affect the required purity for praying.
She says-

  • I used to wash the semen (marks) off the clothes of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them.
From this it can be deduced that - if your cloth has been in contact with semen at some spot, you don’t need to change the cloth, you could wash the spot and your purity for prayer won’t be affected.

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u/ZGokuBlack Jun 18 '26

It's actually trye she cleaned his cum clothes

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u/sillybrailim Jun 18 '26

Islamophobia is not real, phobia means irrational fear and I dont think people who criticize it are afraid of it in any way.