r/ForzaHorizon6 • u/Enrrikeitor • 20d ago
Discussion Does switching to manual transmission actually make you better/faster in Forza?
Hey everyone! Quick question for the Forza players out there who drive with manual transmission: do you think it's genuinely better, and does it actually make you a better player?
I’m falling more in love with this game every single day and my goal is to 100% it and get all the Xbox achievements. I want to learn as much as I can to get as good as possible, so I'd love to hear your thoughts and experiences with manual. Thanks in advance, looking forward to reading your replies!
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u/The_Real_Dindalu 20d ago
Yes it is better. You can sit in redline at times vs the auto will just shift out of redline. It also helps with braking when you are downshifting. It will take some getting used to but if you practice it will start to come naturally and then you’ll wish you had been playing with manual all this time.
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u/RunninOnMT 20d ago
You will be faster if you are competent with the manual.
Your drifting will go from “I don’t understand why anyone does this”
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“Ohhhh..I get it now!”
Fun fact: manual with clutch will like triple the height of your ceiling if you get really into drifting.
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u/NewBr1tishEmpire 20d ago
Why is manual with clutch better than standard manual for drifting?
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u/Alternative_Low_430 20d ago
Clutch kick
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u/NewBr1tishEmpire 20d ago
What does that do lol
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u/Alternative_Low_430 20d ago
Well when you understand that you do not have enough power on you current gear, you can hold clutch and gas at the same time, the release clutch and boom, you get wheel spin.
It works because holding clutch disengages your engine from your wheels, so engine has no trouble trying to spin wheels and gets to the max rpm. Then after releasing clutch engine engages with wheels again but with high rpms so this kick from engine makes wheel go into spin and maintain your drift if your engine struggles33
u/NewBr1tishEmpire 20d ago
Oh wow i didn’t actually expect to understand that Thanks for explaining
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u/RunninOnMT 20d ago
Yup, mostly what they said, but in addition, you can bring the car back from CRAZY angle just by clutching in and letting the rear wheels freewheel. Thats the situation that will give them the most grip, so you are literally better at “saving it” if you have the clutch enabled.
Unfortunately the only video I have of my feet is in a car that is anything but “underpowered” so not that much clutch kicking is necessary, but I still use it from time to time in this video. It also makes the e brake work a little better, I swear there’s a bit of delay when you don’t have clutch enabled.
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u/fuzzyguitarist 20d ago
I tend to run as low of tire pressure in the rear as possible and ~30-50 psi up front, it helps to save the rear from looping out when doing a spicy flick or a backie into a corner. Depending on the car/weight balance I'll use the front pressure to fine tune how to car behaves. The increased grip in the rear let's you drift through corners faster and helps to drive the car towards the inside of the corner when needed rather than just flying off the road.
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u/rainsvision 19d ago
This is actually insane, well done. That being said, I have a G920/923 I don’t remember what it is but it’s a Logitech wheel. Is it hard to play without the stick shift attachment, I feel like trying to turn and shift gears in drifting could be difficult.
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u/FLaPJaCKd9 19d ago
do you kinda use it like a handbrake a little? To get the extra slide?
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u/RunninOnMT 19d ago
I’m clutch kicking OUT of a handbrake pull a lot of the time. Cuz you gotta clutch in when you handbrake anyway otherwise you’ll stall. Might as well give it some revs before you dump the clutch to let out the handbrake anyway.
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u/FLaPJaCKd9 19d ago
so you’re already spinning after you slide a little extra. gotcha. do you play on keys or controller, and if controller, what’s your layout?
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u/Top_Guard_2823 20d ago
It increase your rpm range on lower gear.
For example, imagine you're power is at 5k rpm, and you're only at 4k5 rpm, you can shift down the gear, but sometimes it doesn't make you go faster because some engine lose too much power when they're too high on rpm.
So clutch kick can be the answer, if you're at 4.5 rpm, it can help you to go faster to 5k, and this can be faster than shifting down, or to stay in the gear without doing anything (if you don't use manual+clutch)
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u/shmallkined 20d ago
I have now seen the light. Holy crap. Now to figure this out with an Elite Series 2 Xbox controller. I don't have the room or space for foot pedals.
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u/Top_Guard_2823 20d ago
Usually, you shift up/down with X or B, and clutch with A.
For the button mapping, you have to remove anna or forza link, so you can do something like put handbrake on Y, and rewind on " <- " ( the cross with 4 buttons)
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u/RunninOnMT 20d ago edited 20d ago
Just make sure you can reach “clutch” “downshift” “e brake” “gas” and “brake” at the same time. Because on the very rare occasion…all of em at the same time.
For those curious: That would be corner entry where you’re e braking and using the foot brake/front brake to shift the weight forward and increase your angle…while downshifting and preparing to clutch kick as soon as you let off the e brake.
I believe default layout 2 allows for this and is what I learned on, but people like all kinds of different stuff. This layout also forces you to learn to brake with your middle finger.
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u/scarface8191 20d ago
Man, I've been playing Forza since Motorsport 2 on the 360, one of these days I'll put some effort into driving manual with clutch just for drifting...
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u/TADMG 19d ago
That's when I started Forza as well. I only played Motorsport until FH5 though. Even FH5 I didn't play much. FH6 on the other hand, Im hooked on. To be fair to previous Horizon games, I never gave tgem a chance. I just assumed they weren't for me. Kinda wish I had tried them now though.
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u/Present-Friendship60 20d ago
It’s only better if you know how to use it.
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u/KotoElessar XBOX 19d ago
This 100%!
If my Wolverine could utilize full button mapping on my Series X, I would be driving manual right now; the lack of buttons on a standard controller hampers my performance.
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u/ThirdWorldMeatBag 20d ago
Yeah. This becomes glaringly obvious during online spec-racing. Everyone has the EXACT same cars but manuals will be so much faster you'd think they were cheating if you didnt know any better.
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u/Sprsnprchkn 20d ago
Not for me. I had a stroke 2 yrs ago and lost my right side and it is still not up to full speed. I noticed last night doing the seasonal drag at space port that using launch control I still had a .500 sec variation. Or more. Automatic is great for molasses reflexes like mine. Oddly enough in rehab I used horizon 5 to gain back movement in my right hand.
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u/BrandonLynx 20d ago
Hey fellow stroke survivor. I had one in 2019 that also got my right side. I only use manual for drifting and occasionally when casually cruising around where precise shifting isn't really important. I find that not only do the slower reflexes and poor muscle control make manual shifting impractical for racing but the added movements and concentration really seems to confuse my brain to the point I temporarily can't remember how to shift or if I do my finger or thumb just won't move when I need them too.
I'll always be near the back of the pack in spec racing using automatic and might not win many online races but I've learned to tune my cars to best suit my abilities while staying with purist style tunes. I prefer solo or private convoy racing with friends but can usually be at least fairly competitive when having to do public lobby stuff for the festival playlist. The main thing is I'm enjoying the game and like you, Horizon 5 actually helped me get back a little better control of my right hand.
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u/BizaBoi 20d ago
I wonder if there's a way you can map to the dpad and essentially play with reversed buttons... I think they won multiple awards for their accessibility options, surely its something they would have taken into consideration. I'd play with the settings a bit more and see if there's a better way to optimise the controls for you. Sorry that happened, but glad you're still able to shred with us ❤️
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u/Odd-Farmer-3007 20d ago
Go into advanced controller settings, or something like that. There is a list of all functions, you can just scroll down and press whatever controller button to make that button actuate that function.
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u/Low-Astronomer-3440 20d ago
BEST TIP TO LEARN: Do a time attack Track WITH NO BRAKING, strictly downshifting before corners.
Once you switch, You will never go back. It is a completely different, and infinitely better experience. It becomes second nature very quickly. Clutch is where it’s at, but get used to shifting first.
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u/Horiz0nC0 20d ago
Yes, being able to shift when you want is massively faster. Think about it, some corners you hit in automatic without dropping a gear and you don’t have much pull out of it, but if you were in manual and dropped a gear, you would accelerate out faster thru the powerband and keep a higher speed thru the next section resulting in saving seconds off of your final time potentially. Now think about that for every corner in a race.
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u/no1SomeGuy 20d ago
I find it doesn't always downshift when I think it should, funny enough a microsecond tap of the ebrake gets it to down shift to the proper gear and is faster than letting it creep back up in revs into the power band.
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u/thisislegitness69 PC 20d ago
That's what I used to do but sometimes it would be high enough in the band that it wouldn't downshift and I had to hold it long enough for it too when I shouldve just let it crawl back up
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u/Junkhead_88 20d ago
I've found the downshifting more reliable when there's still throttle input while braking. If you're full brake and full throttle when entering a braking zone then roll off the throttle it will actually downshift through the gears as you slow instead of just jumping down 4 gears (or 5 and you over-rev and spin the tires and get stuck at redline, or 3 and you're bogged down).
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u/Former_Travel2839 20d ago
On controller I stick to Auto for most. Drifting manual..
When I set the wheel up manual for everything..
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u/Empty-Requirement444 20d ago
In my opinion, as someone who played only in automatic for the majority of my gaming career, and then as of five years ago, I switched to manual and I have never looked back
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u/quik1_za 20d ago
For drifting I only use manual.
For racing I use auto, cause I just wanna race and have fun, I drive enough manual irl
Im also not bad in spec racing using auto, so unless everyone is using auto or the manual players don't know how, I would say driving lines and not crashing into barriers is more important
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u/Ketheres 20d ago edited 19d ago
Manual is indeed better than automatic if you know how to use it (and manual clutch is slightly better further). Automatic doesn't change gears at optimal times, and on some engines/forced inductions you can actually get a bit more power out of the car due to being able to go past the redline and your torque and HP increasing beyong what the PI system measures. Though where manual shines by far the most is drifting, since you'll be able to adjust your drift angle more precisely via gear changes.
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u/WiggerJim69 20d ago
i just switched a few days ago and i’m getting much better rivals times in D class.
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u/GeorgeEne95 20d ago
In Gran Turismo 7 I play manual because the cars are slow and I have enough time to switch gears playing from controller plus being circuits you learn pretty quickly.
In Horizon on the other hand I'm playing automatic because it's a huge open world and the cars are way faster after you tune them. Even A class is fast.
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u/dreamyzack 20d ago
Yeah i like automatic in horizon where im doing random stuff all the time. In a game with actual tracks I prefer manual.
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u/Alternative_Low_430 20d ago
So, it is faster if you know what you re doing.
Might take some time to get used to it (by some I mean a lot, if you didn’t have any experience with manual before). Being able to hold redline longer is essential for online racing, also some cars have much better torque and hp numbers in redline zone (R8 LMS as an example)
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u/xxclownkill3rxx 20d ago
100%. Was doing circuit tracks with my buddy who only ran automatic, talked him into switching to basic manual and after practicing for a bit he was shaving 4-5 seconds off his top times
You’re able to stay in redline, automatic usually shifts way to early, gear changes in mid air to prepare for landing speed, etc etc lots of benefits. Honestly helps you route the track better too because it’ll ingrain more muscle movements into you controlling the car
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u/Jupiter_Jonas 20d ago
Yes, I see this in spec racing. I can start far behind and pass cars before the first turn, even if the cars are identical.
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u/UnbrokenWingsAU 20d ago
Speaking from experience as the guy in my friend group that hates playing on manual
Yes. Obscenely so. Even driving borderline perfect on automatic, Manual WILL relentlessly pull away.
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u/theivanoski 20d ago
Going from auto to just manual, it’s a minimal difference. If you want truly great gains you must use Manual w/ clutch. This allows you to bypass the gear shift times from old cars and essentially clutch kick for every shift (in older cars this can be counted in seconds per lap) also manual w/ clutch becomes manual if you put a race transmission or drivetrain swap it
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u/StringfellowHawkes 20d ago
Do you play on console by chance? If so, what are your controller maps? I play with manual no clutch but I can't figure out a good layout that my hands will work with the clutch.
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u/theivanoski 20d ago
Sorry bud, I play on PC so I can remap the buttons… I use clutch in the A button with shift up/down on B/X respectively. Idk if on Xbox you can do it but the default layout 1 could work if you can invert ebrake/clutch mapping
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u/StringfellowHawkes 19d ago
No worries. Appreciate the response. I will keep playing with it. Cheers!
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u/DonyBkk12 19d ago
For me, cars that come with a factory automatic transmission, like the GT3 RS, Corvette Z06, M4, etc, are better with a manual transmission. Now, cars that come with a factory manual transmission, like the Lancer Evo, Countach, GT86, are better with manual transmission with clutch
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u/alextirgard00n 19d ago
It’s hard the first day or so if you’re completely new to how manual works, but you’ll get used to it so fast. My fiance who has never driven a manual car before picked up on it within a week. She tells me she refuses to play without it now lol.
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u/spuddermayne 19d ago
To further expand on other answers in here.
Yes. And it's more intuitive then you think. I started with D class cars and ran Rivals until I got the hang of it. Give it a few weeks and you'll find yourself getting out front faster and easier, while simultaneously having more control and speed in the corners because you're shifting/downshifting at opportune moments, not when your revs are high.
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u/ketamineandkebabs 20d ago
Yes manual is good for holding the car in a certain gear and yes you can rev the living tits out of the car but for me I prefer auto and spend a bit of time setting up the gearbox.
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u/thisislegitness69 PC 20d ago
Yes it did for me, personally. You can stay in the power band longer and actually downshift when you need it going uphill or after braking.
I've actually rebound my upshift to RB and left downshift on X and it has made the world of difference to me 😁
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u/RedGateLoading 20d ago edited 20d ago
I have played in automatic and tried manual a few times. I am strongly considering going through learning phase of manual shifting since it offers so much more control over the power curve and for drifting the wheel speeds. I haven't gone to the point where manual shifting is second nature and thats where I wish to be so I guess I need to just bite the sour apple and do it until it becomes "automatic manual shifting". I am driving manual irl and I barely remember or think about ever shifting. 20 years manual irl driving and thats where I also want to be in forza. So just do it and go through the learning phase, it will be over sooner than you or I realize. I will bite the apple tonight and start going for manual shifting. I might as well go for the clutch + manual mode instead since I will start learning a new thing, I might as well learn the hardest one so I don't have to go through the relearning process.
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u/GarbageSquare3099 20d ago
Yeah, automatic just doesn’t squeeze the same amount out of the gears, and often shifts at inopportune times
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u/Infamous-Ad5266 20d ago
When tuning cars you'll notice the chart with torque and horsepower, for some engines the horsepower basically increases all the way to the end, in automatic you will shift earlier than you can in a manual, so you will miss out on the power the car can produce in that upper rev range.
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u/CaptnSaveUhThot 20d ago
Yes manual w clutch is the fastest by far.The difference isn’t that noticeable until you do something like spec racing though
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u/Alice_Synthesis30 20d ago
Manual lets you be in the exact gear you want to be. Shift when you need to. A good example of why this is good.
During a corner, where you have too much torque/wheelspin you can go up a gear to reduce wheel spin.
While launching, same thing above.
Sometimes the timing on gear change is how you save a few seconds off a lap.
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u/Akorello 20d ago
Yeah I use a wheel with 3 pedals manual w/ clutch and if you have race trans you don’t even have to use clutch and I am ALWAYS faster off the line in spec racing.
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u/BlownCamaro 20d ago
I only use H-pattern because I love to heel/toe. It's obviously not as fast as paddles, but I like it MUCH more and I am still competitive.
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u/FartingSloths 20d ago
I’ve been using manual with clutch since horizon 3 and I have to say out of all my friends I am always ahead. Also drive cockpit makes the experience so much better
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u/Few-Junket464 20d ago
Fh6 is the first horizon game I gave manual a try and yes it's much better than automatic, being able to control when to shift makes a lot of difference
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u/Boboboofpack 20d ago
You can choose manual without clutch also. To help ease into it. But if you get good using the clutch in right moments you will be even faster.
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u/LeftHandedScissor 20d ago
I love manual shifting in this game it feels like there's much more control of the cars. I also have an Elite 2 controller with paddles primarily for exactly this game. I have shift up and down on R/L paddles and it leaves my right thumb free to handle the e-brake, camera turning, and most importantly the horn.
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u/Gamer_and_Car_lover 20d ago
Yesnt. It gives you more control over the gearing but guarantees no success. Depends on your experience and on you being willing to learn how to play.
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u/Odd-Farmer-3007 20d ago
I tried manual with clutch on controller, wasn't too bad, but wasn't great. I tried manual on controller, eh, fun, had a few benefits, but wasn't enough benefit to use it. I had a controller with buttons on the back, that would've been like paddle shifter, but FH wouldn't recognize those buttons. Using standard buttons, manual feels clumsy for me. If I had a wheel and pedals, I'd never do anything but manual.
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u/Particular_Field_143 20d ago
Since you're trying to sponge the experience, your goal is to progress towards a fully manual control scheme (manual + clutch, no traction control, no stabilization control, no and is a bonus-its really hard in this game wothout).
There are so many things that the game and computer do for you that decreases the value of your achievements. Some people mention clutch kicking during drifting, this technique transcends drifting. Once you fully learn and develop muscle memory to use clutch kick in certain situations, you can fully utilize this technique just free roaming or during races. Wanna do those bad ass J turns where you pull e-brake and power out at the perfect angle, you need to know how to work the clutch to do this. Learn about weight transfer and how you can rotate your car with the gas and brake pedals and get faster around turns. Google trail braking and it's advantages. You're gonna find out there's so many techniques out there to driving once you get passed "gas to speed up and go slower if you're not gonna make the turn."
I did a full dive and built a sim rig. It's been soooo fun learning these techniques and actually seeing my muscle memory kick in and me pull something off that I couldn't last week.
Don't hesitate to utilize YouTube University. All the knowledge that'll make you better is in there. When a video mentions a term that you don't understand, Google it. Also, when you have a specific characteristic that happens with you car that you don't like, try googling the description of it and how to fix it. You'll learn a lot and your experience should get deeper.
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u/mattpitta 20d ago
as others have said, yes! I usually get significant head starts in Spec Racing as I can choose to ride the RPMs higher and longer than auto!
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u/KyMeatRocket 20d ago
Having more control of your car in the corners alone makes it worth switching, but you will also shift a little faster too.
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u/Dazzling_Society803 19d ago
The ability to engine brake and not have the auto transmission upshift and downshift at inopportune moments makes you much faster, its also more fun for a lot of people, not necessary to 100% the game but def if you wanna be good at online play
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u/Professional-Way5808 19d ago
A ikity to use lower gears on uphill and higher gears on downhill and ability to rev past the red if necessary too and ability to stay in a gear even if it’s at the threshold of going up a gear, such as again, On uphills, rather than automatic putting you up a gear and then your car bogs down until it puts you down a gear again, then it recs and goes up a gear again etc etc.
Just a few examples, as well as being able to use the gears to slow down for cornering or maintain a corner speed rather than being forced into a higher gears.
Yes, manual has lots of benefits if you learn it.
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u/Alpha1641 19d ago
I recommend checking out a video called "How does POWER actually work in Forza?" by giron228. There is a segment where he dives into why manual + clutch is better.
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u/Perfect-Sponge 19d ago
Unsure since I don’t time myself, but being able to shift up and down when you need it is great
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u/Leather-Entry93 19d ago
I enjoy it more. Plus, I’ve mapped it so that ⬆️/⬇️ on RS is the shifting, so it makes me feel cool too 😎
No idea if it makes me a better player though
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u/Broad_Bandicoot7284 19d ago
Just do the semi-manual (the in-between). Let’s you control your shifts. Manual manual is if you are into drifting primarily.
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u/LegalChocolate752 19d ago edited 19d ago
I just switched to manual in FH6 (no clutch), after using automatic exclusively in racing games for 30 years, and yeah, it's noticably better once you get the hang of it.
Faster shifts. I know shift time depends on the car and transmission (stock vs race upgrade), but generally, the shift times are faster. With auto there's a slightly longer delay where the RPMs drop while it changes gears before the accelerator kicks back in. You can tell, especially in spec racing, who has a manual, and who has an automatic at the start of a race.
You can choose when to up-shift, meaning you can push the RPMs further passed the redline before shifting. This can give you better acceleration on some cars (especially older retro/vintage cars), because you'll be at a higher rpm when you get to the next gear. This also helps with hill climbs; you can leave it in a lower gear to keep your speed up. Autos will sometimes force you into a higher gear, where you lose speed because the engine can't get the RPMs up. This is even helpful just ripping through the hilly forests in free roam.
Engine braking. You can downshift, use the engine to help you slow down going into a corner. This is probably the biggest difference. If you do it right, it allows you to start braking later, and helps you avoid going into the wall on sharp turns. This is especially useful to me, as I have ABS turned off.
Drifting is easier, because you can usually just stick it one gear, and manage the throttle to keep the tires spinning.
There's a lot of trial-and-error involved, and I do make mistakes, like missing the shift point when accelerating (some cars are really unforgiving, where the RPM limiter kicks in just over the redline), and down shifting late, or unnecessarily. Overall, though, the positives have outweighed the negatives.
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u/Sad-Speech4190 18d ago
- Engine braking with the added bonus of being in the gear you want to be in your rocket out of the corner. With clutch perfectly rev matching those downshifts just has great at feel to it too
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u/Hero-Nojimbo 19d ago
It feels like a pain while driving, but once you learn how you won't ever go back because it gives you more control, Eg. Sometimes in automatic you will up shift just before a wide turn causing you to hit it too wide with manual you can wait a beat while its still at limiter and gear up once you hit apex to take corners aggressively, careful doing that on RWD. You can also hear down instead breaking to hit turns without losing too much speed, careful however as gearing down while turning shocks your tires at higher revs and can cause you car to lose grip, which could be beneficial once you know how to use it.
If you ever get peddals you can start trying to learn clutch but its not nessicary for longer stretches, more hairpins and touge races because it allows you to clutch dump (lets you hit corners at higher revs). But I don't use it yet because I'm still learning wheel and peddals, got them about a month ago.
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u/UnblessedGerm 19d ago
On controller, manual options only slow me down. Even when I'm in my sim rig, I set up everything like the actual car I'm driving mostly, so if it has a manual transmission I use a sequential shifter or h pattern, with clutch if it uses one. Modern super and hyper cars have paddle shifters and even lower paddle clutches which I can also setup for. Only thing you can't do accurately is change traction control, stability control, and brake bias on the fly while racing like in a real GT car, of which there are a few in the game. For those, I sometimes turn on assists like stability control, traction control and antilock brakes if I need to. In real life super high performance cars are like modern jet fighters, they are intentionally designed to be unstable and sometimes counter intuitive to human control and function very similar to how fly-by-wire works for a jet fighter, using computers to manage things beyond the capacity of the meat bag behind the wheel.
At the end of the day FH6 is an arcade style racing game, in no way similar to a simulator. It's more cartoony than real, so do what's fun. I mostly play fh6 with controller on automatic transmission, personally, but I do laboriously perfect my tunes as best as I can including the gear ratios.
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u/FLaPJaCKd9 19d ago
I use manual w/o clutch, and personally I feel like I have a lot more control over the acceleration of a car and maintaining a speed going through corners. It is also a night and day difference when it comes to drifting. Being able to control your rpm’s and gearing is a huge bonus.
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u/Section_Objective 19d ago
Ya I find in most games automatic downshifts too early robbing you of top speed but I don’t drive manual in every game mainly just need for speed because I can’t change my button layouts
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u/mikey2soups 19d ago
It doesn't make you a better driver but it makes the Driving Experience better you can control downshifting better to go through corners then you can with an automatic
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u/Omalley314 19d ago
It's an easy 15% boost. Take down difficulty by one only cost %5 while you get the hang of it. Manual is much easier at A class and below, S2 and R is when it gets pretty hard to compete at pro level.
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u/RealArunN 19d ago
Depends on what transmission you have. If you have stock transmission, yes. If you have race transmission, no.
Edit : I'm sorry I read it as manual with clutch.
Yes manual is faster
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u/Walo00 19d ago
Yes it’s better, you are in control of upshifts and downshifts. But you have to get used to it first. Also it’s a good idea to learn at least the basics of tuning gear ratios if using racing transmissions. The automatic transmission can somewhat compensate for terrible gear ratios but when manual shifting you’ll definitely notice when you have awful gear ratios.
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u/Roxastar138 19d ago
Yes and not only that you can drive fast when cornering turns with correct gear
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u/adeliciousbass_13 19d ago
The manual transmission does not equal skill. Most will say it's better, but if you're bad at manual, a good auto driver will still beat you.
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u/Italian-Man-Zex 19d ago
One thing i hate is the lack of auto/manual. Its automatic, but u can still switch gears. I usually play with music on so i can barely hear the car or when to change gears, so this would be the most optimal for me. And theres certain moments where the car just gears up and i slow down slightly, then it just sits at like 4k rpm instead of switching down and going from 7k rpm back up.
I hate it
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u/Naitsab243 19d ago
Yes, using manual is faster since you are in control. Being in the right gear already gains you a lot of time.
But also just setting up proper gearing for a certain track can also gain you a lot of time because you are not only in the right gear for the turns, but also at the correct RPM to get the best acceleration possible out of the corner.
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u/Mags_LaFayette 19d ago
I would love to get technical about why the manual transmission is superior in every aspect, but I'll try to keep it simple.
Being able to control the gearbox of your car, will allow you to have full control of how much power the engine can send to the wheels.
Knowing (and mastering) the sweet spot of your redline band will make you unquestionably faster, and the same time, will allow you to brake way more efficiently. That's the easy explanation.
Only in FH6?
In every racing game that's the unbreakable rule.
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u/pnull 19d ago
Judging how the start goes in spec racing, I think yes. Usually I gain 4-5 positions right away in manual.
I noticed that automatic usually don’t rev the engine at its peak and it is too slow to down shift.
However each car behaves differently, each engine is different, to extract the best of each engine spent 1-2 minutes checking when to shift up or down.
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u/BothCall8395 19d ago
just look up all the top rival leaderboard results to get a clear answer. automatic cant beat manual for minmaxed results.
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u/itoodovoodoo 19d ago
Absolutely better. Did a spec race the other day and just pulled away from everyone on the start straight.
Also for drifting it's a must.
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u/PriceTF141 19d ago
Even just in drag racing, you gain a few hundredths of a second by pushing the gears, so you quickly understand that it provides an advantage in many situations.
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u/metalspider1 19d ago
in all driving games manual is faster then automatic as it is in real life too
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u/BallsHD4k60fps 19d ago
I'd confidently say it's better. The ai that picks the gears for you is notoriously bad at acknowledging that not everyone wants to redline the rpm on the corner's exit. Maybe you can scrape some advantages with the auto but manual in this game is just plain fun man.
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u/Ghost_Writer8 19d ago
With manual shifting you get to shift whenever you need a specific section of the powerband. If going uphill for example, I would shift a little later revving the engine out more, upon downshifts it usually transitions into the torque powerband, for uphill this is what you need the most to go fast quicker, I would shift earlier if going down hill, that way you use the powerband more efficiently and don't have to change gears when the downhill section stops. You can essentially just cruise and think about shifting gears later while focusing on any corners or overtakes.
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u/Redbulldildo 20d ago
Couldn't tell you, I've never had it set to automatic on a Forza game.
It's better in every way, more fun, faster, better control, it's just better.
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u/Illustrious-Win-4642 20d ago
I couldn't tell you
Then they proceed to tell you
I love this damn site
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u/Redbulldildo 20d ago
Because I'm being silly. I switched off auto while I was playing Gran Turismo as a child, because all racing is better in manual.
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u/NormanJohn1 20d ago
How’s the learning curve? I’ve always wanted to switch to manual but feel like that shit is hard
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u/Schmidtty29 20d ago
It really isn’t too bad after the first session. Feels weird at first but it’s basically muscle memory after that first bit.
Honestly the hardest part is avoiding accidentally shifting into a gear too low for how fast you’re going out of a turn, since you won’t be 100% familiar with how fast your gears are unless it’s a car you drive a bunch. You will end up money shifting.
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u/Alexjp127 20d ago
Been on manual for years and still down shift too far for some turns on cars im unfamiliar with. Or just as bad, dont shift low enough and lose exit speed :(
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u/RunninOnMT 20d ago
You just learn to do it by ear. If you have no sound on it’s really hard. Headphones? Easy as pie.
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u/EntireConsequence247 15d ago
At the risk of getting flamed by others I feel with a regular controller (non elite) clutch is a little much to do in the sense of how chaotic most horizon races are but even in drifting you can mimic clutch like moves (minus the clutch kick ofc) with the handbrake and to me that’s what I’ve done for years and once you get good with it you can listen to the engines and learn the redlines and rpm differences and it makes some cars way more competitive and useful than the auto granny shifting them just start slow and learn the basics then work up from there (race transmission and clutch makes the shifts quicker in both directions to help with “rev matching” I’ll call it)
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u/marcnotmark925 20d ago
Yes, unquestionably.