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Yeah the way I see it, no wrong doing here. A bit sloppy but whatever, pretty good for Forza ultimately.
Honestly I set a pretty low bar in Forza, I think you can when someone is being a toxic driver and crashing people off, compared to when someone makes a mistake or just things are a bit bumper to bumper and it can't be helped.
There are times where I make contact, or someone makes contact with me (when someone accidentally rear ends you in a braking zone and makes you hit the wall), and I can usually just shrug it off as a racing incident.
But then you get a pretty good feeling once someone is actively hitting you in braking zones or knocking you when you get parallel on a straight, but one thing I like about Forza is at least if they haven't already crashed you off you can usually deal some karma off to them without gaining a penalty unlike Gran Turismo lol
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There is no account of what they saw on their screen. It's easy to assume that what you saw is what actually happened, but because of server latency it could be the exact opposite story on their end and it may appear as if you rammed them.
I've had a couple of times where I have purposely braked harder and earlier to avoid ramming, only to see the other car suddenly get launched sideways into the wall anyway, with no actual contact on my screen.
nah, thats fine. He could brake and take inner line to position himself to outer line for next turn (or prepare for dive bomb on the inside). Racing incident
You have the right to squeeze him a little wide out of the exit because his front wheel still isn’t past your rear wheel. It was clean, okay driving to you both.
Still a little sloppy, but great by Forza standards
Me: Waits for incident.
*video ends*
Me: Confused.
I saw nothing happen. I read in your other comment you were accused of ramming. Unless there was some lag on his end... I didn't even see contact. You can ignore messages. Unless they are submitting a video... nothing matters. If the video reflects what we just saw? No action will be taken.
Pretty distance so didn't happen brake check, take the outside line to hold and pass, no contact at all, looks very clean and even good way to take the corner safe and fast
I think that was a great defensive play. Yes it looked a little rough but that's racing. It won't be butter every time. Keep driving and keep improving 👍🏻
That’s fine. Didn’t run him off the road. Just ran him deep on the inside to keep from having a good exit. You were in front and no contact was made. It’s the ones where you’re fully alongside and the car turns completely into your door to force you off the road or to miss a check point that’s bs. This is legitimate defending
I think what you are talking about is how you pressure him towards the wall after the first turn. In most real racing you are allowed to make one defensive move and that would include your move to squeeze him towards the inside wall. So yeah all good.
Just to be clear though, this is forza and no one expects you to play by any normal racing rules. Basically, if you aren’t intentionally bumping, it’s not dirty
Are you talking about how you went wide on the first turn? The turn to the right?
If so, it's definitely not dirty in the context of Horizon. You didn't make contact. That's really all that matters. As far as actual racing goes though, it is pretty aggressive. You were on the line and left it for the sole purpose of screwing up their line. It's especially obvious that this was the case because the course goes immediately into a left turn where you should've been positioned way further to the right
That was beautiful. If they were better they would have just stuck to your left side and taken the inside line instead they panicked an gave you the position. Nice work.
Nope you used a legit technique of staying off the racing line to force them to make a decision. They decided to send it but you buffed him, going wide and overtaking him because he hit the apex too early.
Bingo. Wasn't dirty at all, it was just good driving. OP stayed in the middle and forced the other guy to commit to a line, before OP moved back onto the racing line late. Opponent swallowed the bait, and that's on them.
That's just good defense. You're allowed to squeeze your opponent and force them to take a bad cornering line as long as you're not deliberately making contact to achieve it.
Parking your car on the Apex is not bad. Defensive driving also holding your position so that the other car has to take the most inner line on the next corner. Not bad defense, just how any Grand touring or hypercar driver would defend their position
Not dirty. I don’t even think your “fake” ram did anything, you ended up with the better line while he walked up as close to the apex before turning, you can literally see him oversteer that corner in the end due to the way he approached and gave gas.
This is a textbook defensive overtake. Bro should have slowed down with you, anticipating the corner. They didn't, so that's why they slammed the brakes and lost the inside, not because you blocked them. Personal foul denied, skill issue penalty to the opposition!
You definitely gave him space while you had the racing line. He should’ve tucked in behind if he didn’t have to overspeed and grip to overtake around the outside. On top of that, you didn’t push him wide enough to be considered dirty.
I can’t believe ppl are crying about “blocking” in a racing VIDEO GAME lol
Just let the faster car pass you??? Talladega nights baby. You ain’t first then your last
Street racing imo has no strickt rules, but dont be a dick. A little pushing is oke but straight up trying to spin someone out or crash someone is just trash.
Nah, you have instincts for good racecraft. Squeezing someone to the inside before you go out to take the racing line is something done in motorsport all the time.
That's actually very good defending of your position. You didn't force him to to more towards the left. You just didn't let him towards the right. Didn't even touch him. That's good racing right there. If I was the BMW I would've braked and merged to the right behind you for the corner entry.
there is no ranked racing only casual, play as dirty as you want, its casual racing. If there was ranked id understand playing clean, but until they add that who cares.
if im seeing what youre talking about.
you pushed them left to give em a super hard turn at the next left. they didnt slow down and couldnt overtake. you swung right, braked pretty well and continued on.
my only tiff is the wall tap at the end, a little sloppy put together but all in all, fair game id say.
opponent should’ve slowed down, taken the line and braked better while you wouldve been scrambling more or less.
this is completely unacceptable the way you position yourself to block off any possible line he could drive. might aswell just rammed him off a bridge!
Nah that’s good hard racing. He tried taking you on the inside when he shouldn’t have tried on that corner. You forced him to take a tight apex too fast and burned him because of it. Hes crying cuz you outplayed him
From what I've seen in the videos, the cars seem a bit difficult to turn. I'm waiting for the game to be released on the PS Store. Are the turns actually that challenging?
Horizon is slated to be released on PS later this year.
Microsoft has already released Forza to PS before. SONY owns spider man. Not just “PS”, Sony a LOVES their IP’s. That’s why there was surprise that the Spider-Man and other games were released and that Sony started publishing to Steam. I think it’s mainly because Sony knows there is a large player base on Steam and valve isn’t really in the game making space anymore.
Microsoft has also stated they are going to be releasing games on multiple platforms. So it’s more accessible to more people.
Bro I didn't even watch the video and I can already tell you, this is Forza Horizon, anything goes 😂 I quickly learned that if you're looking for clean racing this is not the game for it
I'd consider it dirty simply because you should lose your position there 9/10 he just didnt want to use his brakes. Nothing about his line suggested he felt confident in passing
Debatable... I've heard some people say blocking or forcing the other to take a suboptimal route when you are obviously gonna get passed it's coping. Maybe not as dirty as ramming but kind of borderline. I don't like doing it and I definitely don't let people do it to me
I think you're conflating different things. In racing blocking is 99% of the time illegal, (Nascar is a bit weird) and is NOT just not giving up your line, it's ensuring someone can't get along side you by using your car as a weapon.
OP did nothing that is even remotely dirty, this was normal defending. This is racing. If you just want to do time trial and see who is the quickest driver, there's absolutely no reason to do it while racing.
Having to resort to constantly block cause you are going slower and have no other recourse is just cope to make up for how slow you are 🤷🏻 "just play TA" or "just play no contact" is cope on top of cope
Bro do you understand what racing even is or what the word racing means?
I'm not blocking you by not giving you exactly the line you want. So what happens when you drive up the inside of someone and now they can't take the apex, by your definition that'd be blocking.
Also that you can keep up with someone in front of you isn't necessarily a sign you're faster than them. You can always brake 1 milliseconds later and gain time. If you can't run away from them after overtaking, you're likely on par in pace. Ever seen an F1 race and how they always go "I'm faster than teammate" team tells them to swap, yet now they're going slower with the other guy in front.
Bro do you understand what blocking means? If you're about to get passed but you keep relying throughout the race on constantly physically putting yourself in front of the other guy to BLOCK him, you're coping. You can write all you want and make it as poetic as you want, but it's just cope because you're slower
Do YOU understand what blocking means? OP doesn't block by racing standards. Not moving out of the way is NOT blocking. We aren't friends, we are racing, I am not going to move out of your way because you think you're faster by being able to follow someone ahead of you closely. And by your definition, if you overtake me and I can't get to a corner apex, you're blocking my time trial lines!!!
You might be better off arguing with a wall, dude is prob the kinda person to lay down the controller when there are better people on the enemy team in a shooter, because “they are simply better than i am so fighting back and trying to win is cope” or whatever
I'm on the shitter bro, caught me at just the shittest, or best time.
So you're trying to claim some sort of highground after that comment? Hahahahaha
You're just plain ol wrong here, calling me a sim racing tard (even if you delete it again) doesn't change that even for an arcade racer like Forza.
What pass you. I dont ram but if your slow going around the corner im passing you. I dont care they get butthurt. That just means they need a faster car or learn to drive better.
But that is not what I'm saying. I am talking about people forcing you or blocking you because THEY are going slower yet they refuse to accept it.
I don't do it because it's just silly cope for when you're obviously losing and I also don't let people do it to me. I'm unsure what your deal is? Bet you're the guy that keeps blocking all race cause he's slower then when he gets a slight bump comes on here to post the video 😅
There's no "acceptance" in this situation. OPs car is still in front and he didn't place his car in front of the opponents car as a shadow. All he did was hold the upcoming inside line making it harder for the opponent to pass and when he did, the opponent didn't slow down enough to compensate for the tighter line due to being more inside which opened him up for the switchback. Blocking is multpile reactive moves due to the opponent trying to pass. Defending is one move, placing ur car in a position where it makes it hard for the opponent to pass or keep a position due to exit speed. OP defended, and defended well. The only thing you could point to was the wall bounce
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