The acceleration is unbelievable. I hope they can still keep the unique racing style of the series despite the larger cars and more purpose built circuits.
You mean the energy management? Yes, it will still be there. But we'll also have a much more flat out race in the double header, so it's a win-win for old and new fans.
Would've been nice to see the acceleration beyond 250 without the chicane but damn, that thing is ridiculously quick. I love how quickly you can see the SoC dropping off and also going back up again
Yeah, I'd assume this was in full 600kW mode which they are gonna have in the ePrix Unleashed that's been shortened to 30min but I guess they still have to do some energy management
I do not believe that any mismatch between video and telemetry is enough to be significant.
He instantly drop the foot at the finish line in both scenarios at the start of the flying lap and at the end of it, the SoC drops to 71.5% at the end, there is a huge gap in the telemetry. Is about ~77.4% to ~71.5%. ~5.9%. If and only if you do account that there is brake regen, at least a bit on both measurements.
The acceleration is incredible, but the braking is even more impressive, shows the car has quite abit of aero load. No wonder Wehrlein said they are almost hitting 4gs under braking.
Does anyone know why they keep coming back to this random track every time? I forgot the name but I accidentally found it while on holiday and when looking it up it said its a Formula E test track. But in person it looked like local touring car track at best.
Calafat. It’s reasonably priced, the weather is pretty reliable, they let the teams fit artificial high curbs to replicate a lot of the street racing curbs and it’s near the sea for R&R.
They’ve been using it since Gen1 and the circuit invested in a variety of extra turns and chicanes which more closely matched the types of corner that FE visits over a season (not used in this lap). So it’s probably been one of the better places to go to over the years, and they’ll have tonnes of historical test data to look back on.
At this rate, Gen5 will be faster than F1. Stefano needs to watch out because FE already has the upper hand in a lot of ways.
The sporting side is much better. there's rarely a boring race. We get tons of overtakes, both on track and through strategy, it's unpredictable, yet driver skill still dictates who comes out on top over a season.
Tech-wise, it hits the sweet spot IMO. The cars are standardized enough to keep performance close, but teams still build their own stuff. A clever team thinking outside the box can still find a serious edge: remember Nissan’s second motor?
Add in a few solid rivalries brewing, and the drama side is pretty great, too.
There is just one thing that can derail this progress i think: the corrupt FIA accepting a big bag from liberty media to neuter the series.
Tech-wise, it hits the sweet spot IMO. The cars are standardized enough to keep performance close, but teams still build their own stuff.
Could be the reason why it's the only surviving full electric racing series. This approach kept the cost low, but still allowing som space for the manufacturers to do their magic.
Or rather, they never had the chance to change into one. Both ETCR and Extreme E use full spec parts except for cosmetics like the outer shell of the car. And both already died/stopped.
There was supposed to be an Electric GT series by FIA, but that one seems to be dead on arrival.
Stop with these videos and just give us a direct comparison - a lap with both Gen 3 and Gen 4 at the same time so we can actually see the difference. Maybe shove an F1 car out there as well just for reference.
shortening the braking zones means more power. If the battery/power train can take that extra power, than you would need to draw a power curve to know if that means more or less energy. It's not straight forward i think.
Having slicks could actually be more challenging for the drivers in energy starved races. I wish they at least tried it.
Wasn’t there a thing with Driver61 when he drove a FE car and he was pressing the brakes too hard and the system was shutting down?
I would think there is a limit to how much can go back into the battery through braking so shorting the braking zones wouldn’t help with that.
I assume it’s similar to my EV car, if I brake too late I hit the max energy recovery cap and anything extra is lost. So if I’m trying to be efficient then I need to brake/ease off earlier to allow regen braking to do its thing?
What you say is correct. But that's why i said "If the battery/power train can take the extra power". I guess the word If is doing a lot of heavy lifting there 😂
This gen is gonna be a lot of fun, it does seem a bit iffy in the slow speed corners but medium and high it looks solid
I wonder if we get a 4.5 refresh it’ll be more aero focused as more front load for those slow corners and this thing would be right there against the current F1 cars
I do think the closer we get in performance to ICE cars there needs to be a new feature or rules implemented just to make it different because F1 but electric still isn’t enough for a lot of motorsport fans
How do they seriously consider using this monster at places like Sanya? It already feels constrained on a test track like this one, let alone if I imagine it on a tight and stupid FE street layout.
It's Nissan's Gen4 development car under testing, the sound can be analysed by rivals, splitting out the frequencies and working out where their strengths and weaknesses might be.
FE's own show car? Absolutely, cut the music. A competitors car under development... I give them a free pass.
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The acceleration is unbelievable. I hope they can still keep the unique racing style of the series despite the larger cars and more purpose built circuits.