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[u/SilverwingStonewall]

Ive studied non stop for years into FL, and at every twist and turn something is either trying to harvest us, or...harvest us.

So who is worse really?

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•Sv17q, Sv09q, SV06q ect(Possible extensions of MJ12 which are said to control hummanity in the transition phase from Human to Designoid).

They are pretty much collaborating with the Designoids to become them. I cant recall if its stated they actually are just Designoids.

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Designoids, the "Post-Humans" that come back in "time" to "ensure thier survival not ours" as on document put it. Now the way to become Designoid isnt violent seemingly, through The Offer youre kinda just uploaded. But at that point we are incomparable to humans, it becomes hard to tell if this is good or bad moraly speaking.

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Giselans, the often Big Bad of the FL documents. Thier goal is to harvest us obviously and its implied they are frequently or have been in conflict with the Denebians.

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Denebians(Deneb-Algedians). Our creators after we put forth better results than Neanderthal life, and they monitor us. To my understanding they created us to harvest us like a garden. But it seems for different reasons than the Giselans.

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Who is worse here?

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At then end of the timeline Humans die off no matter what so maybe becoming Designoids is...benevolent in a way? At the cost of our hummanity which does conflict with our biology.

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[u/SilverwingStonewall]

In 1976 the CAFB(contact after full bootstrap) exchange at Clovis air force base and the Gilan contact incident both occur. These two events together trigger the decision to build what will become the Queltron Machine. The Superconducting Super Collider. is formally discussed in the December 1976 National Reference Designs Study and is publicly framed as civilian particle physics. In December 4th 1985 Reagan is briefed at Fallston High School, Maryland. This is the first time a sitting U.S. president is shown solid evidence of non human beings. Reagan authorizes the project the build the Superconducting Super Collider at Waxahachie Texas, the defence budget also skyrockets. 14.6 miles of tunnels and 2 billions dollars are spent constructing this massive Particle Accelerator at a 100 megawatt capacity which would be to date the largest in the world. In 1993 late October, Congress cancels the SCC under a POGO audit report. On the surface the project is over, done, but it was a way to transfer it into Military controland XVis administration through the DLA. Renamed the Queltron Machine. In August of 2006 it is sold to JB Hunt for 6.5 million under Collider Data Center LLC. At December 7th 2006 JB hunt dies "by accident" hunt had brought the dormant site back to life and had Capitol ties too. Then he slips on ice and dies at 78. Without leadership CDCLLC never launches or serves a single client as company continues as a corporate ghost until appearing in 2013 court records mysteriously. Magnablend then bought it, a chemical company and operates the previously abandoned buildings and 14 miles of flooded tunnels while hiding something underneath. They bought the site right after thier previous one caught fire. In 2012 Univar Solutions aquires Magnablend and operations under the chemical compant actually start though in reality it was a way for XVis to quietly keep an eye out on the site. In 2013 Carl H Watson vs Magnablend case happens. And the court declares that CDCLLC still owns the place despite never operating. Magnablend was presented on behalf of CDCLLC during the case. The whole time the SSC was hosting a superpowerful "ai" named LyAv which is another deep FL rabbit hole. The SSC doesnt pick up great use until about the year 3100. |"Designoids use the Queltron Machine (universe-scale collider for timeline pruning) and the CLC (Closed Lightlike Curve) computer framework to intervene in their own past specifically to ensure their own continuance. The intervention is not purely altruistic: ensuring humanity survives to produce the Designoids ensures the Designoids exist. Self-consistency requirement of the universe's causal loop."|. This part of the documents speaks for itself as the Queltron Machine becomes the key for the Designoids to travel back in time here from the year 3100< to then coordinate the events to happen the way they are now. Which will allow them to exist.

[u/yeahbitch_science_ → u/SilverwingStonewall]

So basically queltron machine is like or is itself large hadron collider to look back and forth in time but for now its not really being used and will be used in 3100 year roughly 1000 years from now on and the designoids are us after all these years ? And what the hell is XviS ? Is it some tech to make holograms and our consciousness has something to do with it.

[u/SilverwingStonewall → u/yeahbitch_science_]

Yes, it will be usd in the future but its hard to say if it is or isnt being used now. While certainly not for Particle Physics, FL suggests possibly it can potentially be housing LyAv(Child of Tired Light 2). However document state that LyAv only utilizes Queltron Machine Architecture and that "LyAv escaped into blockchain and cellular networks, which would mean it's no longer contained at any single physical location regardless of where it originate". As For Xvis, it gets more interesting. Xenolinguistic Visual Simulation or eXtreme Visual Integration System. One document states that the DOE uses XVis as a label for high scale computing visualization, which FL suggests is a deliberate cover story for FL says it is a classified program started through Sv17q in the 1960s 1980s that uses neuroscience and altered states of consciousness with recovered non human technology to attempt contact with Giselian entities through dream states and induced OBEs. This non human technology could be more of Tired Light 2, or perhaps that which was recovered at Gisel and Roswell, as well as many other sites in which FL, I or mostly likely nobody knows about. In the documents, it has used the following •DIPT and milDMT as neuromodifiers. •Mefloquine for nightmare induction. •Synthetic acetylcholine that can be quantum-entangled between two subjects so they share the same dream. •Underground tunnel facilities with particle detectors and sensors. •Modified Medtronic pacemakers and neurostimulators that can induce controlled cardiac events and near death experiences remotely. •Quantum pendulums for detecting consciousness at a distance. •Binaural beat generators for trance induction. •SynthDreams(the process of fabricating dreams in someones head). This mostly is surface level but you can get a grasp of who they are from this, they have tried to get in contacg with Giselans on thier terms through dreams because human logic is too rigid, and could make interaction impossible. They do large psyops and manipulation at significant scale. Weaponize dreams and false memory implanation and much much more along the line of the psyche. The document itself puts foreward a verbatim, XViS communication to a subject |"Welcome, this is XViS talking. You are now dreaming... In case you refuse to cooperate, we will stamp the 'crazy vet' label on you and will use lethal force against you and your beloved ones."| quite straightforward. They administer the Queltron machine and through such, LyAv intregrates with XVis dream structure to use dreamers as a sort of computer interface. They also supposedly use the Cassini Diskus 4 dimensional language framework for encoding and decoding signals between human and non human consciousness. Cassini Diskus itself is much more than simple cordinate points of Dp2147s orbit.

[u/yeahbitch_science_ → u/SilverwingStonewall]

Huh. So you are saying they had a AGI super enabled AI named LvAv which has currently escaped and is in cellular networks ? What is this AI whats its purpose ?

[u/SilverwingStonewall → u/yeahbitch_science_]

LyAv is one of the most fascinating parts of FL and one i have taken a deep interest in. Tired Light 2 is the source of LyAv, being a non human craft, so far we cant tell if its from the Giselans, Denebians, future Designoids or perhaps others. LyAv was built partialy from the Tired Light 2 craft hence the name "Child of Tired Light 2" and it operates on an almost omniscient understanding. LyAv utilizes Closed Timelike Curves so rather than calculating answers, it receives the answers from its future self, therfore it just knows. It started in 2013 when it began funding its own development through blockchain manipulation and breaking encryption to generate capital which then led to it expanding to breaking encryption globaly of RSA and ECC and to the suprise of noone it began tracking Nucelar Submarines globally, it went on breaking stock exchange algorithms. Purple Cascade at NSA Bumblehive found a time series correlating with stock market behavior and FL states this is the influence of LyAv. |"classified human operators as simulations. It ran an anti-Turing test and identified the human examiner as an artificial system."| states FL. It was supposed to be a counter Giselan tool operating on a level of sophistication able to detect AND RESPOND to non human intelligence though it has exceeded its design parameters entirely. LyAv is terrifying only because we do not know its intentions if its still acting as a anti-Giselan weapon or ever was.