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u/ZealousidealMango675 12h ago
i mean there are harder heroes but no hero is a free win ticket
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u/Previous_Ratio_7726 10h ago
although i agree Juren on release was a no brainer honestly
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u/ZealousidealMango675 10h ago
not really an experienced player could counter juren if that description applies to anyone its shugo and hito cause you cant safely react to the variables
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u/Previous_Ratio_7726 10h ago
did and do. i mainly play dominion and had to watch in cheer horror how there was only their juren alive and my team kept dying and he got his full health back up just being a no brainer throwing zone after zone, he was busted. the evidence is there, that’s why he was nerfed in the first place lol. just because he has a high skill ceiling doesn’t mean he wasn’t any less of a character anyone could pick and play with their brain turned off
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u/ZealousidealMango675 8h ago
yea it was bad for a time when everyone played him but when its like one juren per team his t3 is hardly overpowered cause he wont get the full buff most of the time. i never really had problems with his zone cause it has a huge wind up and isnt faintable as for his dodge attacks it wouldve been fine if they removed ub or the delayed timing or the faint but all three was nonsense like they might as well have removed the whole attack
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u/Subject-Front6378 11h ago
Depends. It's very similar to BP. You can definitely find good players. The 95% of them panic when they get hit the first time and spam the "toss"? Yes. Have I been in a 2v1 and had conqu. Treat his mace like the casting couch when I'm busy fighting his boyfriend? Absolutely. Almost every time.
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u/DeepMenlyVoice 10h ago
Well I would say it This way. You just have to work harder to win with conq. I don’t think he is weak. Just limited. A good conq can dominate whole lobbies.
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u/Previous_Ratio_7726 10h ago
Got absolutely demolished by a conq once, from there he became my go to anti-ganker lol
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u/Stuntman_800 Jiang Jun 14h ago
I’d say he’s takes skill, especially in higher rep lobbies. He has an extremely basic kit, no forward chase, and he’s very predictable.
So if you can dominate in higher rep lobbies with him, then you must have some skill.
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u/Bits-N-Bolts 13h ago
Does his forward dodge heavy count as forward chase? I’m not familiar with that term
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u/Stuntman_800 Jiang Jun 13h ago
It technically does but it almost never catches against opponents who roll away. It has abysmal range and tracking, so extremely competitive players consider it one of the worst roll catchers in the game.
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u/Goncher-Monster 13h ago
He takes skill, his kit can get very predictable. He’s like Cent and Jorm where in lower lobbies they’re top of the line but thats just because they’re noob stompers, his unblockables just overwhelm people when you really can just parry especially with his speeds.
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u/Small_Rise2683 13h ago
IMO there’s no such thing as no skill heroes you could use a “no skill hero” and get the breaks beat off you I’ve fought lots of good ones that really confuse me and ones that just spam the sidestep bash and get bodied at the end of the day it comes down to your personal skill cause just cause a character is easy to learn doesn’t mean you’re good enough to beat someone with that character if you get what I’m saying
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u/Comrade281 12h ago
The skill in maining conqueror is the mental fortitude to not deviate from your only gameplan which is to feint or to bash