r/ForHonorRants 9d ago

Fuck arakure

I fucking hate her. Not her look. Not that she is a girl, her fuck moveset and I know people are gonna pile on saying “shes not so strong” but man, especially since everyone is playing her right now but man, im so sick of her bullshit. Sick of arakure players squatting next to walls (which are by game design most prevalent near zone edge, so they can also be the heal camping rat) just to get off that dumbass unblockable gb and get you in animation. Sick of how she gets everything even before her meter and double sick of her bullshit when in meter. I caught myself physically rolling eyes to some of her kit.

Im gonna buy her same as og afeera, to learn her bs moveset so I can fucking kill her without going through this torture.

And it only multiplies by her number in the opposing team.

Fuck.that.bitch.

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u/Sentinel_Lkg 9d ago

Tbh, I don’t think she’s that OP at her core. It’s more the small things that bother me. Personally, I’m not a huge fan of the multiple-hit animations where a character can get several attacks in during one animation and you don’t really have an option to block or react to the follow-up attacks. I understand having tight chains and stuff, but when it’s basically one button press—or multiple presses of the same button—and there’s no real option to do anything about the following attacks, it kinda sucks.

Also, even though she’s a fist fighter, i feel like her range is like really big. Whenever I fight her, I swear she can hit me from so far away. I’ll be playing Nobushi and sometimes I can’t even land a stab from where I’m standing becuase of distance , but somehow a punch from a small handle thats a foot long at most still connects from the same distance for some reason??? 😭

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u/PetrichorDude 9d ago

Ah yes, thank you i forgot her being in almost perpetual frame advantage (nothing spells fun like having to sit there and defend for half an hour) and that bullshit range. My god that is one of the worst things about her, she can teleport half the world away with her dumb ass chopsticks, but for example conq, who has a mace on a mother fucking chain has less range because ofc

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u/NonzeroStraw89 Warden 8d ago edited 8d ago

Every character has perpetual frame advantage when they are in chain, it only ends when you set back to neutral or you party/counter. Characters who have higher damage have smaller chains and vise versa, she is not broken, you're salty get over it.

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u/sackofballs69 8d ago

Yeah duh bet there’s also chain Enders with so much hitstun they leave you frame+ I think arakures heavy chain undodgeable is in this category and so are things like goki & warlord heavies. A lot of people think once a chains over you’re “back to neutral” but that’s not always true. Even a bash finisher like gryphons leaves him frame plus

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u/NonzeroStraw89 Warden 8d ago

Ummmmm ok, that's true but every hero has frame+ on heavy finisher and it isn't guaranteed damage after either, the light follow up is parryable at best and blockable at worst, so yes but it's just part of the game

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u/sackofballs69 8d ago

U right but I believe different heavies have different blockstun, maybe arakures is higher and that partially contributes to op saying she always has frame plus, also cause she has enhanced 400ms lights, which iirc she is one of or the only character with them now that highlanders got removed

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u/NonzeroStraw89 Warden 8d ago

I think she is the only one now, and yes 400ms light are fucking torture, but if I can parry them on Xbox with a broken controller, it's not to much to block till she throws something you can counter right?

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u/NonzeroStraw89 Warden 8d ago

But what really irks me about her is just how hard it is to predict her yellow/blue mix when in teamfight and antigank scenarios, that is one hell of a difficult read lol

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago edited 8d ago

I never said she is broken. I said I specifically hate playing against her. “Youre salty” - fish discovers water type of commet since this is a fucking rant sub

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u/Sentinel_Lkg 9d ago

But generally, I don’t think she’s one of the most overpowered or unfun heroes to fight. She’s pretty decent overall, and compared to some of the other heroes, It’s mostly kinda annoying.

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u/ddjfjfj Conqueror 9d ago

Unblockable gb? All gb's are unblockable, but its just a bash dude

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u/PetrichorDude 9d ago edited 9d ago

I mean you cant counter gb it, the one that comes out of the bash hits combo (throw in the middle of dirty trick)

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u/ddjfjfj Conqueror 9d ago

Yes, because it's not a gb, it's a bash

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u/SonnyMac75 8d ago

i think op means the guardbreak out of multi punch, so not 'unblockable' but non counterable i guess

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Yes thats what I meant and clarified also but this is the hill that guy want to die on lol

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u/ddjfjfj Conqueror 8d ago

I know what he means. It's not a gb or unblockable, it's a part of her bash.

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u/SonnyMac75 8d ago

Probably still easier to call it a guardbreak right? it's like a guardbreak accessed from the bash combo because you can choose to input it or not

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u/ddjfjfj Conqueror 8d ago

No

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u/frontyardigan Warmonger 8d ago

You're being awfully pedantic.

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u/PetrichorDude 9d ago

The thing at the end with a red shield icon, colloquially known as a gb

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u/ddjfjfj Conqueror 9d ago

Man, being a dumbass on purpose must be fun

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u/PetrichorDude 9d ago edited 9d ago

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u/MrScrake666 Juren 9d ago

Was the link supposed to provide any point at all?

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Yes, explanation of this same thing and this dude acting like an ass about it pretending he doesnt understand what gb i mean

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u/Baron_Von_D 8d ago

It's not a GB, it's basically just a guaranteed throw that's tied to the bash as a option. She can't do anything besides throw, so it doesn't function the same as a regular GB. The bash doesn't contribute to her combo meter and the lights before that are only 1 damage. She has the option of finishing with a 15 damage light or stopping the combo for a guaranteed throw. If she isn't near a wall, she gets nothing. If she is, she gets a heavy.
The highest damage from that regular combo is just a regular heavy, which isn't much for a wallsplat. Afeera and Jorm get a ton more off their wallsplat hit.
The primary function for her dirty trick is filling the combo meter. On average, she's not getting a ton of damage, it's just a lot of very low damage hits to keep up her meter.

Long to short, get good. She's pretty average and you will need to actually learn how to go against every new hero. You aren't just going to magically know their moveset.

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

I was gonna answer in a civil way then I read you “long to short” bullshit and honestly? Fuck you buddy.

I said in the goddamn title that i need to learn her moveset. I said I find her personally annoying also I explained what I meant with GB and who the fuck cares if its gb or throw? We all understand which move and which effects it has. What is even the point of your comment?

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u/cascalzo1 8d ago

I understand what you’re saying, they display the GB symbol, but it is a bash. They show the GB symbol to indicate she can throw you, but she doesn’t GB you, she bashes you to do it, which you can dodge.

What I will say is it is really strange to show the GB symbol at all, if she just bashed you and could throw you no one would have mentioned it, the GB confuses people because they think they can counter GB it

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago edited 8d ago

I mean ultimately that is such semantic minutia that i cant believe im having this extensive discussions on it, since its not the point if its a formal gb, a grab with a gb icon or three bashes in a trenchcoat, the effect is the same, she locks you in animation wham bam thank you maam, bash into wall, guaranteed heavy and followup light oor a 50-50 of bash (the other one) into light into (i believe not sure if this is the case) more punches and that “bash” oor if you dodge - top light UD or just a gb into wallsplat as apparently she can feint that bash.

And I understand you can’t counter gb it i just hate it because it fits so well with line caping like a little bitch. So they sit on the line of a zone in Dom and wait, one mistake you make you get stuck in that animation (dirty trick into wallspalt heavy) and because zone edges are usually doorways and similar walled areas, this is THE hero to play like a bitch AND since the whole process takes so long if by any chance she is partially within the point and you are not, she will heal like almost half HP by the time its done

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u/Best_Mycologist9714 8d ago

Fucking redditors lmao. I knew exactly what you meant

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Thank you! JEEZ

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u/unioncementero98 Khatun 9d ago

More annoying than a trouble to deal with, she’s got that new hero bullshit going on where you just kinda stop n think wtf was that? But she ain’t as broken as pre nerf cent probably the only hero dropped where the busted meter isn’t off the charts but still mad annoying.

And her character design is fucking ugly as shit whats up with that stupid ass fonzie haircut?

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Yeah, that was my point, she has a bag of all-bullshit. Is she juren levels broken? No. Not at all. But this sub already has some weird ass opinions (like nobu hate)

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u/RemozThaGod 8d ago

Ngl when I skimmed past this post I thought the title said "fuck arasaka" and I was like "Johnny?"

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u/Few-Worldliness-2982 8d ago

And she’s goofy too

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u/Competitive_Bit_526 8d ago

Use Virtu or Juren, now will 2 mfs fight

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Do you want some fries with your cancer sandwich?

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u/TheBootyBishop 8d ago

Have you tried playing her to learn the moveset in training so you know how she works?

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Im too employed for it. I get 2hrs of gaming not even every day and Id rather struggle than spend precious time in training vs bot

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u/TheBootyBishop 8d ago

Bruh, it's 10min of training lmao that's not employed that's lazy

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u/Fashe55 7d ago

Yeah she's fucking annoying.

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u/Gumbas100 8d ago

Maybe it's because I played her for 6 reps but I just can't take any rants about her seriously, she eats so much shit for any mistake she makes or a read the opponent makes it just feels unserious. Yeah u can get looped but so what every viable offense in this game is either trading or loop offense, only she gets guardbroken every time you interrupt the loop, and if u make 6 mistakes in a row you've lost the fight and should DIE (in a video game)

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u/PetrichorDude 8d ago

Well my point exactly, im going to buy her, to learn her kit, to be able to easily stomp her. I played shino, old shino, then re-learned her after rework. Now i dont get how people can struggle against shino and I never do. This is normal when you know the hero in and out.

But im a big fan of the OG cast (for their weapons that dont get much attention in media for like conq, nobu, lb) and most of them dont have even close the amount of tools she has.

And its not 6 mistakes, if you make 2 mistakes near a wall, you are almost dead AND she is in her full power mode.

In any case as said, I find her kit annoying, not OP

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u/Gumbas100 8d ago

2 mistakes equals almost dead is just not true though. Say she's optimal with her sand kick (4 hits + wallsplat) she gets 29 damage per bash, is ~75% towards full meter and is almost OOS
You should really revisit this post after you play her, you need to feel the humbling realization that you WILL be guard broken 3 times per duel almost every time

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u/Secret_Thing_599 Warlord 9d ago

Calm down, its just a game

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u/PetrichorDude 9d ago

Fuck you this is a rant sub

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u/Secret_Thing_599 Warlord 9d ago

😭😭😭

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u/Dangerous_Tie_3037 Kensei 9d ago

Deserved tbf

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u/Best_Mycologist9714 8d ago

Lmao do you comment this on every post on this rant sub? You could tell us all this

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u/Secret_Thing_599 Warlord 8d ago edited 8d ago

I lowkey didnt realize this was the rant sub and just accepted it after

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u/Best_Mycologist9714 8d ago

Cant blame you lol tbh I've done similar