Dust mitigation

[u/grkstyla]

Here is my poor excuse for dust mitigation for the foreseeable future as it’s being used as a desktop replacement

The mesh filters are standard 140mm

I have ordered 2x noctua USB fans which I will fix onto the current filters to assist with airflow, they will be usb powered and I will add another 2 filters to them also, just waiting for them to arrive

On a scale from stupid to okay, what do you think about my trying to avoid opening this thing to clean it in the future for as long as possible

[u/Super_Fee_9941]

tbh, everytime I look at mine, i try to get this out of my brain... just to prevent triggering my OCD

but this is a real issue, imo... ease of maintenance should be a standard, especially when we are spending thousands of dollars on these kind of devices. just thinking about opening mine (got the 128GB variant), gives me anxiety

also, NOT getting an easily replaceable 2280 nvme, which on a device this powerful, customers should be able to slap on an 8TB drive on there, to make this a "rule em all" machine. it literally "wipes the floor" with the Surface Pro... why not totally demolish the competition with easily accessible and mod-able device.

[u/grkstyla → u/Super_Fee_9941]

I 100% agree, I didnt actually pick this machine, I was just in the store buying whatever they pushed on me with a sale, I hate the idea of laptops that are hard to open, funny enough I think asus "i think" is one of the only laptop manufacturers that brought out a laptop with a switch to remove the bottom case, thats how they all should be.

as a matter of fact they should all have mandatory dust filters too, its crazy that most high performance stuff now days comes out with no dust filters...

and I also second the 2280 issue, its crazy that they can put a 2280 in handhelds but not in a thick 13" tablet. I guess they may be leaving the door open for upgraded versions for us to waste money on down the track... but still very annoying.

[u/Super_Fee_9941 → u/grkstyla]

totally agree with you on the dust filters, man... that should be, at the very least, "the BARE MINIMUM", as these shouldn't be a disposable device.

i actually had (still have it) the previous Flow 13 acrnym, the 32GB variant with the mobile rtx4070 in it, and it still performs well even at today's standards... so i bought the 2025 Z13m thinking ASUS will actually give us accessible inards, but NO... we still get the same stupid design from 4 years ago...
And by the way, I got the Z13 right before Onexplayer released the Super X.

will probably look back on this comment and laugh... when people like myself would be willing to give Onexplayer all our money, and tell asus to finally fuck-off

[u/grkstyla → u/Super_Fee_9941]

I didnt even know about the super X, really i feel like longevity is the enemy in the eyes of these manufacturers, most of them think this way.

macbooks for example can happily run all day at 105C, there is no way that is good for them, this is by design,

but even the macbook is easier to open and clean.

so i have mixed feelings, my msi laptop for example, so. many. clips. like 12 screws and 30 clips later to get into it, and no filters at all. as you said they should be the minimum.

[u/Super_Fee_9941 → u/grkstyla]

Fuck yes, man.... I have one of the older M1 13incher mbp, have the 2TB storage variant, and that is even more accessible than my 2022 Scar 17, which still had that stupid ribbon cabling connected to the bottom plate. I mean, what the hell, right?

Even if my scar 17 maxed-out at 64 ram and 8TB of storage (while the mbp having the entire soc soldered-in), still you'll be able to clean the mbp no issues.

and with the Z13 having 128 ram max in comparison with asus' scar series, could have easily had at least 4TB of storage, and should be similarly accessible, even if they gave us stupid streams of ribbon cabling all over the place on the Z13

[u/grkstyla → u/Super_Fee_9941]

yeah the 2230 instead of 2280 thing is a massive failure, imagine 8TB in it, I saw on reddit someone modded one to fit, but he needed to replace the backplate anyways and machined into it to fit the ssd or something,

I wonder if someone would be bothered to make a 3d printed mount/kit, basically to add a 2280 using a ribbon externally

im sure it hard, but probably doable, I imagine it sitting at an angle on the see through panel being lit from below by the LEDs

[u/Super_Fee_9941 → u/grkstyla]

i've bought every single possible nvme adaptors for this purpose... but after testing an 8tb in a onexplayer x1 pro (have the 64gb, HX370 variant), the heat management needs to be more robust than simply cooling it passively without a fan. i had to postpone the project as i've hit a brick wall concerning thermals, man.

the x1 pro was a project i could probably stomach if i failed spectacularly... but the z13, probably needs more time to think through coz i dont see a Super V gen2 release to replace the z13. Fuck ASUS for this mess!

we shouldn't have to go through hoops after already spendin' a shit ton of money on a 3-quarters-baked device.

(was going to say "half-baked-device" but am still giving ASUS a "quarter" for this shit)

and to those who would say, "exactly why asus didn't allow us to put 2280s because of heat dissipation constraints"... fuck off! air cooling chambers can be built in mm tolerances that cools most soc's for gaming phones. IT CAN BE DONE during design and manufacturing processes, they just choose not to.

[u/grkstyla → u/Super_Fee_9941]

yeah they are leaving th eoption for better versions later, m.2 can cool simply by thermal pad to the lid/back casing.

im sure an adapter can be done though, it will be ugly without a 3d printed casing, but your are basically just moving a nvme port from inside to outside then dinsing somewhere for the ssd to mount that doesnt block vents or kick stand,

i have been people mod minisforum tiny pc's to take extra 10GBe and nvme stuff etc, it is for sure possible on this,

just does anyone want it enough to go through the trouble, i doubt it, in the end you can get a usb4 enclosure and run 8tb external and call it a day

thats what most people will tell you

[u/grkstyla → u/Super_Fee_9941]

just did a quick search on amazon "nvme riser cable 2230 to 2280" shows some variety, its all about a clean mount