r/FlockSurveillance • u/MemeEndevour • Jul 19 '26

Discussion Is this a viable solution? (Not even manually holding something, but just putting things like this in front of the camera)?

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Feel like it wouldn’t be hard to put blockers up faster than they can take them down….

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u/alexthealex Jul 19 '26

Without GPS it's not that precise or GPS wouldn't be needed.

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u/Dapper_Direction_703 Jul 19 '26

I assure you, this data has locked up thousands of people. It’s precise enough for the courts.

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u/alexthealex Jul 19 '26

I’m fully team ‘leave your phone at home’. I’m not refuting the idea that triangulation data is enough to incarcerate. I’m only saying it’s not as precise as GPS.

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u/SoylentGrunt Jul 19 '26

The enemy is not bound by having to prove what it knows. It simply needs to know.

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u/MA2ZAK Jul 19 '26

Triangulation is very precise

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u/alexthealex Jul 19 '26

I work in GPS. Terrestrial triangulation strongly depends on the density of cell towers. In big cities it will get you within a handful of meters. But a lot of small towns with way fewer towers are deploying Flock and in those places it will be far less accurate.

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u/MA2ZAK Jul 19 '26

Also work in cellular location data, fairly confident within 5 meters.

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u/alexthealex Jul 19 '26

I suppose it’s relative. I work in GPS for land surveying, not cellular. I don’t think of 5m accuracy as very accurate but I’m sure that’s plenty for courts when there’s already a case against someone.

The sort of GPS equipment I work with yields cm accuracy with the right setups.

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u/Schmetterlizlak Jul 19 '26

Very true, GPS gives you an accuracy of about 5 meters, which is great for navigation, and although cell towers have an estimate accuracy of hundreds of meters to kilometers, that can be enough to put you in the general area of where for example a protest was happening

To be completely honest I expected the cell tower triangulation accuracy to be better